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In reply to Aust Ag • 1:29p, 11/5/25
the asian guy was the lead of the Secret Service detail.

and yes, no way would it only be the POTUS and the nuclear football carrier in Marine One

there would be at least 7 aides with the President
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The Sun
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In reply to Teslag • 1:36p, 11/5/25
Teslag said:
The entire movie is free on Youtube. Still great.



The attack scene is dated but still holds up for a TV movie made in 1983



Thanks for those! I watched it again last night and it was still just as haunting as when I saw it as a kid with my folks. Though being in my 50s now the dialogue was a bit cringey.
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In reply to LMCane • 1:38p, 11/5/25
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some people need to be spoon fed every little thing in their lives and can't think for themselves so they don't like the ending



Wow, you sound like a real *******. Way to group anyone that disagrees into being idiots. I happen to not like it. I watch movies to disengage and be entertained not to inspire some deep introspective philosophical debate. Entertain me and then let me get back to my reality.
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In reply to Sweet Kitten Feet • 2:05p, 11/5/25
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This is how he always is. I just ignore him now.
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In reply to I Am A Critic • 2:17p, 11/5/25
I Am A Critic said:
You're entitled to your **** opinion.

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Wow, you sound like a real *******. Way to group anyone that disagrees into being idiots. I happen to not like it. I watch movies to disengage and be entertained not to inspire some deep introspective philosophical debate. Entertain me and then let me get back to my reality.

85% of his posts are on F16. Do you expect anything different?
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In reply to LMCane • 2:47p, 11/5/25
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yeah but with an apparent 20 minute lead time from detection there was no urgency to respond BEFORE any other detections. If it was launched from 2 minutes outside DC and that was the target then yeah I get it.

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3:06p, 11/5/25
Prob the worst ending to a movie that I have ever seen.
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4:03a, 11/7/25
AG
I liked it but had read here about the ending. I assume they left it like that so you could think about what would/should you do. And they didn't want to say either way.
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10:59a, 11/7/25
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In typical fashion for me on F13, unlike apparently most, I...liked... the way it ended.

My wife echoed the aforementioned "What?" but I thought in this one very limitied case any ending they made would have been ultimately detrimental to the story as it was laid out. The director and producers did an excellent job of showing several different points of view in how one would handle this unimaginable siuation.

Resulting reflection and discussion of what would you have done/advocated for knowing everything (which wasn't much) you know is to me a hallmark of great storytelling. Not knowing whether the warhead detonated, or if it did whether POTUS authorized a rare, medium or well done response, and against who?!, or if fear of the Russian response to overflights and a Russian SSBN off of Virginia, and was the early warning satellite system compromised and if so by whom and what does that mean for a response?

I usually like a full 3 act story with some sort of resolution and characters with flaws who are interesting (I'm looking at you MCU/WoT/LotR/Witcher/Star Wars sequels and spin-offs) but here I think any difinitive conclusion, no matter what given the absolote gravity of the situation presented would heve been ultimately unsatisfying.
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In reply to hammerhead • 11:03a, 11/7/25
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hammerhead said:
Prob the worst ending to a movie that I have ever seen.

You must have got lucky and gotten the super secret extended cut. All we got was the no ending version!
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11:32a, 11/7/25
I thoroughly enjoyed this movie, but am thankful for this thread. I truly believe having prior knowledge of the movie just ending abruptly with no resolution helped me enjoy and appreciate it more, as I knew what I was signing up for, whereas i would have very likely been furious if I would have gone into it blind.

It's one of those very rare times I am appreciative of a spoiler.
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In reply to Morbo the Annihilator • 11:33a, 11/7/25
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Morbo the Annihilator said:
I think any difinitive conclusion, no matter what given the absolote gravity of the situation presented would heve been ultimately unsatisfying.

Well im glad they decided to with the 'satisfying' version! /s
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11:55a, 11/7/25
I wouldn't have a problem with the ending if the 2nd and 3rd act had any real meat to it.

Instead we got a good 1st act, a 2nd act practically repeated the 1st act but just from a slightly different point of view, and then a 3rd act that was basically Idris Elba contemplating what to do.

Movie would have been just as effective as a 20 minute short -- but that doesn't sell.
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In reply to 98Ag99Grad • 12:03p, 11/7/25
98Ag99Grad said:
Just watched it. If you want to see the better version with a real ending check out By Dawn's Early Light with Powers Booth and James Earl Jones. Basically the same movie.

And im guessing the President went with the well done option. Everyone was going in the mountain and there were contrails in the sky.

THIS

not sure how anyone can state there was no ending- it was just not the ending YOU wanted.

there were hundreds of people still being evacuated to the bunkers in PA and MD and visible contrails-

so if one wanted to you can surmise the nuclear exchange is getting worse.

else they wouldn't have to evacuate hundreds of people to bunkers a few hours after the initial launch.
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10:41p, 11/8/25
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Movie sucked. Worst way to end a movie ever.

I was so mad after it ended.
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9:16p, 11/9/25
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I wish a show would actually show what a real nuclear war would like. They seem to always show nukes going off (except this movie) and then either end it, or fast forward it several years and then show everybody living like Mad Max.

Nuclear war would not be over in 1 hour. It would last for days and weeks. Each side trying to protect their launchers, bombers, and subs, while trying to kill the enemy's. It's more like the ultimate high stakes chess match than an instantaneous evaporation of everything. It is likely that one side would be the clear winner, based on who has the best intel and technology.

That would be a new take.
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In reply to aTmAg • 10:08a, 11/10/25
aTmAg said:
I wish, a show would actually show what a real nuclear war would like. They seem to always show nukes going off (except this movie) and then either end it, or fast forward it several years and then show everybody living like Mad Max.

Nuclear war would not be over in 1 hour. It would last for days and weeks. Each side trying to protect their launchers, bombers, and subs, while trying to kill the enemy's. It's more like the ultimate high stakes chess match than an instantaneous evaporation of everything. It is likely that one side would be the clear winner, based on who has the best intel and technology.

That would be a new take.

That would make for a very intense and also dark movie, but I'd be in.
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In reply to TriAg2010 • 11:36a, 11/10/25
great call out to Lane Pryce from MAD MEN

loved that series!!
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In reply to Teslag • 1:10p, 11/10/25
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Teslag said:

The attack scene is dated but still holds up for a TV movie made in 1983


LOL ... Billy's line about "drinking beer and whistling 'Dixie'" was edited to "drinking beer and whistling 'Misty'" in this broadcast.

That aside, it's amazing how much more impactful a 40-year-old, made-for-TV movie is than this modern offering.
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2:55p, 11/10/25
AG
I thought it was better than Hurt Locker, but not as good as Zero Dark Thirty. Maybe I am just a sick individual, but I love how the ending is upsetting people. I was left holding the bag, and laughed about it. Like WTF?! But I would rather that than the fake ass cowboy nonsense on Hurt Locker, that bothered me more.

I liked the Sopranos ending as well. Like I said, sick individual.
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3:16p, 11/10/25
AG
Great move. Terrible ending. Nothing new other than to say after sitting on the ending for 2 days, I don't hate it as much. I think the implications are there for certain decisions and not sure what more would have sufficed. Its hard to wrap up this kind of story.
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8:23p, 11/10/25
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I'm still confused on who exactly they launched the retaliatory nukes against. Russia? North Korea? They established earlier that they couldn't identify where the nuke came from, so is this just some blind nuclear dart throwing? Made no sense.
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In reply to MattAg06 • 8:28p, 11/10/25
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I'm still confused on who exactly they launched the retaliatory nukes against. Russia? North Korea? They established earlier that they couldn't identify where the nuke came from, so is this just some blind nuclear dart throwing? Made no sense.

Is also didn't make sense for them to attack back until they were sure that the Chicago one was real. What if it was a non-nuclear payload that never made it to orbit or something?
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9:20a, 11/11/25
I watched last night. I think the biggest problem is that in trying to create an interesting story with ambiguity (to stress how difficult the decision-making would be), they forced a nonsensical situation. If there are 200 missiles coming, there's not much drama it's just the end of the world.

So you make it one missile with an unknown origin and create drama that way. The problem is the answer in that situation is obvious - just wait and work out what happened. And the US nuclear forces were perfectly safe from that one missile, so the time pressure was nonsensical.

I get why they made these decisions, but ultimately it comes out as kind of a mess.
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In reply to FtWorthHorn • 9:28a, 11/11/25
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FtWorthHorn said:
I watched last night. I think the biggest problem is that in trying to create an interesting story with ambiguity (to stress how difficult the decision-making would be), they forced a nonsensical situation. If there are 200 missiles coming, there's not much drama it's just the end of the world.

So you make it one missile with an unknown origin and create drama that way. The problem is the answer in that situation is obvious - just wait and work out what happened. And the US nuclear forces were perfectly safe from that one missile, so the time pressure was nonsensical.

I get why they made these decisions, but ultimately it comes out as kind of a mess.


You also send more than 2 interceptor missiles.... because about a 30% success ratio means 2 is not enough. Only one of the two successfully even separated the kill vehicle from the booster rocket and then they said those have a 60% success ratio. Thats 30% it seems. It was dumb to send two and cross your fingers.

You do everything to bring down that one missile.

They even tried to make the case for saving the rest back (stating that they had 50 interceptors in case of a bigger attack). But if you play the situation out the way they did and intend to launch in any way against someone or multiple countries to try to knock them out first, then their response is to send thousands of missiles our way in which case 50 interceptor missiles mean nothing. You expend 6, or 8 or 10 to try to bring that thing down.
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In reply to Zombie Jon Snow • 12:22p, 11/11/25
Zombie Jon Snow said:
FtWorthHorn said:
I watched last night. I think the biggest problem is that in trying to create an interesting story with ambiguity (to stress how difficult the decision-making would be), they forced a nonsensical situation. If there are 200 missiles coming, there's not much drama it's just the end of the world.

So you make it one missile with an unknown origin and create drama that way. The problem is the answer in that situation is obvious - just wait and work out what happened. And the US nuclear forces were perfectly safe from that one missile, so the time pressure was nonsensical.

I get why they made these decisions, but ultimately it comes out as kind of a mess.


You also send more than 2 interceptor missiles.... because about a 30% success ratio means 2 is not enough. Only one of the two successfully even separated the kill vehicle from the booster rocket and then they said those have a 60% success ratio. Thats 30% it seems. It was dumb to send two and cross your fingers.

You do everything to bring down that one missile.

They even tried to make the case for saving the rest back (stating that they had 50 interceptors in case of a bigger attack). But if you play the situation out the way they did and intend to launch in any way against someone or multiple countries to try to knock them out first, then their response is to send thousands of missiles our way in which case 50 interceptor missiles mean nothing. You expend 6, or 8 or 10 to try to bring that thing down.

I honestly would love to see a movie along the lines of this one, but with a mentally incompetent, borderline braindead president, who has no clue where he is half of the time, can barely form complete sentences, and relies on illegal use of the auto-pen to get things done.

Can you imagine how incredibly entertaining and also frightening a movie like this would be with a walking vegetable directly in charge of the nuclear football? Imagine a scene where he's casually licking ice cream and just trying to stay awake while command conducts emergency meetings with an ICBM en route to hit America within the next hour. Holy smokes.

Imagine his deviant crackhead son in there like "THESE MF'ERS! (sniff sniff) DAD WE GOTTA HIT THESE MF'ers (sniff), WE GOTTA MAKE EM PAYYY MANNNN! F*** THIS SH** DAD WAKE THE F*** UP MANN NN!"

Would be entirely too realistic and disturbing maybe.
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In reply to The Sun • 2:52p, 11/11/25
what is crazy about getting old is that I remember when Jason Robards was a Hollywood movie star!
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In reply to Morbo the Annihilator • 2:55p, 11/11/25
apparently you are not entitled to your own opinion from some of our betters here on the Entertainment board.

as if if HAVING AN OPINION ABOUT A @#$@# MOVIE makes one more intelligent or more moral than those who disagree with your opinion about a MOVIE.

so it's 4 of us who liked the ending versus the others.

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In reply to El Gallo Blanco • 2:55p, 11/11/25
I am with EGB.

would be a fantastic movie.
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In reply to LMCane • 3:38p, 11/11/25
LMCane said:
apparently you are not entitled to your own opinion from some of our betters here on the Entertainment board.

as if if HAVING AN OPINION ABOUT A @#$@# MOVIE makes one more intelligent or more moral than those who disagree with your opinion about a MOVIE.

so it's 4 of us who liked the ending versus the others.


I would have preferred a different ending personally, but I still maintain that having prior knowledge that the movie just ends abruptly, with no real conclusion, saved the movie for me. Knowing that going into it made all the diffference in the world and I gotta thank the Entertainment forum. I totally would have been expecting more if it weren't for that.
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5:58a, 11/12/25
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They set it up for a sequel.
When the truth comes out, do not ask me how I knew.
Ask yourself why you did not.
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1:55p, 11/12/25
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I watched this over the weekend. I had not read any reviews. I thought it was great. Then the movie just ended. crap.
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In reply to Aggie Infantry • 3:14p, 11/12/25
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Aggie Infantry said:
They set it up for a sequel.


Three more angles of the same scene and still nothing happens. Sounds great.

I mean there were what 9 or 12 different groups on the call.
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In reply to LMCane • 3:33p, 11/12/25
LMCane said:
apparently you are not entitled to your own opinion from some of our betters here on the Entertainment board.

as if if HAVING AN OPINION ABOUT A @#$@# MOVIE makes one more intelligent or more moral than those who disagree with your opinion about a MOVIE.

so it's 4 of us who liked the ending versus the others.


Oh look at you trying to play the victim when you basically said people who thought the movie sucked were idiots.
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In reply to Zombie Jon Snow • 7:36a, 11/13/25
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I finally watched this last night and enjoyed it. I think I wasn't as upset as others were about the ending because I knew it didn't have one going into it.

I heard it mentioned in the background of the first and last POV's that they launched a 2nd round of GBI's about 5 minutes before impact. I guess I'm an optimist so in my version of the ending the missile was taken out shortly after the screen went black.
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