Bonfire Disrespect

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ChiefRussell
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This happened to my son on the way home from the Holiday Bowl. Here is the letter that I sent to American Airlines.

To whom it may concern:

On December 30th flight 2458 from Los Angeles to DFW, my son had a terrible encounter with one of your flight attendants. Her name badge read Victoria. Her unprofessional behavior towards my son started out with an insult of his intelligence. As she was explaining the procedures and responsibilities of sitting in the exit row, she notice my Texas A&M football apparel, gestured towards my son and said, “If you are unable to read the exit procedures, another passenger can help you.” This was directed as an Aggie joke and Joshua laughed along with the other passengers. There is a long standing ritual of Aggie jokes and he was not offended by this remark. As she was leaving the area my son continued the lightheartedness by saying to Victoria, “Don’t worry your life is in good hands with an Aggie.” She then turned to Joshua and said “THAT’S WHAT IM AFRAID OF, YOU CAN’T EVEN BUILD A BONFIRE RIGHT,” and walked off. Shocked and deeply upset my son decided to keep his mouth shut because he did not want to incite any other hateful remarks towards himself or his Aggie family.
In order for you to understand why this remark offended him so deeply, some background about this event is appropriate. Starting in 1909, Texas A&M University students worked together each year to build a massive bonfire. This annual tradition continued and eventually came under the leadership of the Aggie Bonfire Committee until 1999. On November 18, 1999, the bonfire tragically collapsed killing 12 of our brothers and sisters and injuring 27 others. This devastated every current and former Aggie because we are a family.
My son is an Aggie football player and proudly wears maroon and white. Victoria’s conduct should certainly be an embarrassment and unbecoming of anyone wearing a uniform for American Airlines. Victoria belittled a paying customer. Victoria is an employee of American Airlines. Therefore I must assume as a representative of your airline, this is how you want your customers to be treated. I feel that employees of American Airlines should be taught never to take any situation involving death so insensitively; such as making a remark towards any family member of those killed on 9/11. I am not only asking for an apology, I am demanding one from this flight attendant and American Airlines as well an assurance that she will never do this again!
For years I have had nothing but the deepest admiration for American Airlines, now I am appalled. Your insults and disrespect of Aggies world-wide will be known from coast to coast. I will do everything within my power to let everyone know American Airlines’ views on Aggies. This letter will be forwarded to the 12th man foundation, the Association of Former Students, TexAgs.com, and every outlet of media exposure possible within 10 days.



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DR95
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Chief -

If you post an email address for AMR, you'll likely get some help from the Texags crowd.

They've been known to get articles pulled off the web and such before....
ChiefRussell
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The President of AA is Gerard Arpey
gerard.arpey@aa.com or go to AA.com and send an email to customer relations.

Thanks and Gig 'Em

bam02
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I will do everything I can in the future to avoid flying on that POS of an airline. I hated them before, and I know she is just an individual and was not speaking on behalf of the company, but this is just one more reason for me to despise this inept company.
Objective Aggie
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bam02.

wow. good luck with that. while you are at it you should boycott Disney, P&G, Exxon Mobil, and Intel. That should keep you busy.
Oldfart2
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and I know she is just an individual and was not speaking on behalf of the company, but this is just one more reason for me to despise this inept company.


Let's see how American reacts to what she said. Could there be anything redemptive in their reaction?
51Merc-98Ag
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Horrible.

But, I am not sure why a boycott (or even company anger) is in order unless the Airline takes a stance via a specific action or no action. Surly you can't really expect one airline attendant to 'represent' every employee or the entire company? I think this would be more appropriate if you failed to receive a response or if they sent a degrading response, etc.

I guess, to each their own.

And, my apologies to your son for having to fly home with that weighing on his mind.

Gig ‘em
91AggieLawyer
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Let's see how American reacts to what she said.


I'll donate $5 to t.u. if they even respond. Let's just say I place my bet based on past professional experience.

With that said, publicizing this in forums like this is exactly what should be done. Letters get handed down to PR folks to craft stupid responses to.
Poindexter
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ChiefRussell,
Please share the response you get back from American Airlines.
Oldfart2
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I'll donate $5 to t.u. if they even respond.


Not responding is, in itself, a response.
jmtamu
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Overreaction. 1 employee said something they shouldn't have.

It's certainly no reason to boycott an airline.
Keegan99
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wow. good luck with that. while you are at it you should boycott Disney, P&G, Exxon Mobil, and Intel. That should keep you busy.


Avoiding AA isn't the least bit difficult if you don't live in the metroplex.


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ChiefRussell
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Howdy Meatball,
I certainly hope Mr. Gerard will not tolerate this type of behaviour from any employee especially when that employee is wearing the AA emblem on their uniform. I have been in public service for 28 years and I understand how important image is and when you are wearing a uniform you do represent that program what ever it is. Hopefully AA has a policy forbidding such acts by employees and if so what is the punishment?
Thank you for your kind remarks for my son.

Gig `em
3rd Generation Ag
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Send it to Brent Z at the San Antonio paper. Also to the Univeristy and to the Athletic Department--not just the former students and the 12th man.

ChiefRussell
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Poindexter,
I cetainly will keep everyone updated when I hear anything.
Thanks.
CR
ChiefRussell
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3rd generation ag,
Do you have those Emails?
NeuroticAg
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Have we as a society become so sensitive that we can't brush off what some stupid stewardess says? Bonfire collapse was a very real tragedy, but seriously, you are beyond pathetic if you are going to start a boycott campaign over the action of one person.

If your son had a problem with it, he should have said something to the flight attendant right then, not wait until he got home and then have daddy right a letter about it.
3rd Generation Ag
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Also, I would expect after the bowl there were more Aggies than usual flying. It is terrible employ actions to make such jokes--even the FIRST one on a flight where they should have expected several Aggies.

Keegan99
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If your son had a problem with it, he should have said something to the flight attendant right then, not wait until he got home and then have daddy right a letter about it.


Did he say that his son requested a letter from his father?

Or did you just make that up?

Additionally, he doesn't mention his son's age, so perhaps his son isn't of an age to write such a letter.

Finally, I think it's clear that the father was offended by the comment as well, and had standing to write the letter independently of his son's reaction.
diehard03
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Yep. Exploding over it only gives credence to their comments.
DecadePlan
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Right thing to do Chief. Who cares if it gets nowhere folks. We Ags complain about being "powerless" regarding a football coach, we certainly should see value in ONE Aggie standing for what's right.

Chief, I'd feel better though if you'd pull your contact info. This place is public and that could get you unnecessary grief.

I do live in the Plex and see real value in Arpey feeling the power of Texags. We slam polls all the time - let's send a message of real value that the lives of kids lost at bonfire is not fodder for the joke of any employee of American.

I'm sending one Chief. If they get no more than two, so be it.
jmtamu
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Some of you need to quit having such thin skin about things like this. Bonfire was a tragedy, but people that aren't Aggies aren't even aware of exactly what happened.

Her comment was insensitive, but certainly nothing to get in a huge uproar over.

Frankly, this is the perfect example of why Aggies are made fun of by everyone. We "herd" together and pick battles over the dumbest sh*t instead of picking and choosing our battles wisely.
NeuroticAg
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Regardless of whether or not the son requested the letter, this is still something a little childish to get so worked up about. Perhaps we should be the bigger person here. His letter is very respectful, but this could get out of hand.

As to his son's age:

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My son is an Aggie football player and proudly wears maroon and white.
DecadePlan
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Then stand down jm. Nobody's demanding anything and it's a free country.

But this is the right thing to do. Nobody needs to get fired, but people do need to be educated.

I'm sick of people trouncing on others unchecked just because the victim of their jokes and actions might be called thin-skinned for swinging back.
NeuroticAg
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Chief, I'd feel better though if you'd pull your contact info. This place is public and that could get you unnecessary grief.


I agree, for your son's sake if nothing else.
3rd Generation Ag
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With security awareness, I would not say anything to defend myself even to the rudest flight attendant--might get you thrown off a flight.

American was probably flying a ton of Aggies those few days and it was beyond stupid to insult their paying guests.

And I put insulting Bonfire close to the top of my list of important things.
AggieDubs
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I think it's very ignorant what the lady said. But I don't know if it warrants boycotting an airline. Give them a chance to respond then react more dramatically. Furthermore, when someone says something that bothers me to the point in which I would want to write a letter about it, I don't hesitate one bit to let them know right then and there what I think about their ignorant/insensitive comment. There would have been no question beyond that point.

3rd Generation Ag
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You CANT fight with flight attendants--they arrest you for that.
NeuroticAg
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3GA, you make a good point about security, but a simple, "Twelve young people died in that Bonfire collapse and numerous others were injured. That's not very funny", would have more than gotten the point across and not gotten him in any trouble with the airline.
3rd Generation Ag
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I don't think most college students are of an age to think diplomatically. They are more apt to say that is BS and you are a B using the words. At least that is what my high school football players would say.
Keegan99
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Regardless of whether or not the son requested the letter, this is still something a little childish to get so worked up about.


I'll take the horror I saw in the early hours of 11/18/99 to my grave, and I didn't even have the privilege of knowing any of the 12 fine Aggies that lost their lives that day.

Excuse me if I'm among the "childish" few that might get worked up when people make light of it.
AgGrad99
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3GA, you make a good point about security, but a simple, "Twelve young people died in that Bonfire collapse and numerous others were injured. That's not very funny", would have more than gotten the point across and not gotten him in any trouble with the airline.


So does a letter.....what's your point?

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jmtamu
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College students are a hell of a lot smarter than you give them credit for.

I'm not a college student, but your comments regarding college students are insulting 3GA.
Keegan99
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3GA, you make a good point about security, but a simple, "Twelve young people died in that Bonfire collapse and numerous others were injured. That's not very funny", would have more than gotten the point across and not gotten him in any trouble with the airline.


With air travel today, I would seek to avoid any confrontation with airline personnel in-flight (beyond "I ordered a Coke, and received a Dr. Pepper", of course), regardless of how just I felt in my position. It's just not worth the risk of the flight attendent misinterpreting the message, regardless of how innocuous it may seem.

Rather, I would seek to resolve it afterwards through various channels.

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Hagen95
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Frankly, this is the perfect example of why Aggies are made fun of by everyone. We "herd" together and pick battles over the dumbest sh*t instead of picking and choosing our battles wisely.



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I'm not a college student, but your comments regarding college students are insulting 3GA.





 
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