I received news from a long-time friend at A&M that one of his grad students, from India, I believe actually a post-doc, was ticketed recently for running a stop sign on his e-scooter while heading out for groceries. He went to court, paid the fine, and thought the matter over. This week, 4 ICE agents, 2 masked, accosted him and ordered him to self-deport within 48 hours or face forcible deportation (to God knows where). When he asked for details, he learned that his documents had been altered by some combination of the CS police, the court, and/or ICE to imply undisclosed felonious actions. You can imagine what this has done to parts of campus. It is, simply put, an act of terror. People close to the situation, fellow believers, are seeing this for what it is, and crying out to God over this injustice, and having to accept that it's happening all over. This student boarded the first plane he could get on, and didn't even have time to speak to his advisor.

We are grown-ups here. We all know that life is not fair, and the world is not just. What is bothering me is how many people I know seem to think there's nothing wrong with the story I just told...that it's okay for the United States of America to function this way. Case in point - if I posted this on F16, the first sarcastic reply would have over 200 blue stars in half an hour.

I just wanted y'all to know what's going on. I hang in some circles that are a bit off the beaten path to most folks. If you think you can remain a spectator, I hope you are right, but I do not think you are.

If true, then that is 100% an injustice. That's a big if.

India hasn't been a target of deportations outside of people overstaying Visas and there is zero incentive for CSPD or the courts to fabricate anything to deport a post-doc.

You really think people in positions of power wouldn't abuse that power?

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You really think people in positions of power wouldn't abuse that power?

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The citation came from campus police, $209, misdemeanor-traffic. The record was somehow changed to criminal non-traffic, from a bicycle ticket. Wouldn't surprise me if there is some sort of bounty system in place. Who knows? I have the full text, and it will likely circulate more broadly, but this is coming from a Distinguished Professor I've known for 15 years. We really live in silos. People actually do get disappeared.

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You really think people in positions of power wouldn't abuse that power?

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To what end? What are they getting out of it?

94chem said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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You really think people in positions of power wouldn't abuse that power?

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The citation came from campus police, $209, misdemeanor-traffic. The record was somehow changed to criminal non-traffic, from a bicycle ticket. Wouldn't surprise me if there is some sort of bounty system in place. Who knows? I have the full text, and it will likely circulate more broadly, but this is coming from a Distinguished Professor I've known for 15 years. We really live in silos. People actually do get disappeared.

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I'd report this to the news who can investigate and get actual facts. The story on its face seems unrealistic, especially coming from a friend of a friend.

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You really think people in positions of power wouldn't abuse that power?

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Jan 6th
Russia Collusion
Hunters Laptop
Covid Lockdowns and Mandates
Steve Bannon
Peter Navarro
Michael Cohen
George Papadopolous
Roger Stone
Rick Gates
Allen Weisselberg
Michael Flynn

All American citizens. All subject to the Democrats abuse of power.

This really doesn't belong on this forum, but since 94chem insisted on putting it here let's have an honest conversation. The Democrats have been flagrantly abusing power for strictly political purposes for a decade.

I'm truly sorry for this individual if the story you outlined is indeed correct. I am. But one party decided to drag us into this mess by deliberately opening the flood gates on illegal immigration in an attempt to bring in 1 party control. That's what created this mess. If that never happens, the pendulum wouldn't have swung so far to the right in regards to immigration.

If even true at all, I would bet there is more to the story.

I'm following this. I am all about deportations if they are legit but there is more to this story and if true, it needs to be outed. One thing is certain, this is a good place to discuss because in F16 it's going to be a standards circus of right wingers who cheer the behavior without any facts. The op is 100% right about that.

As a right winger myself I find myself raising my own eyebrows a lot with this admin…..this needs to be confirmed and fixed if it's true. That's not cool and it's the most anti American things I've heard.

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Sapper Redux said:

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You really think people in positions of power wouldn't abuse that power?

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Jan 6th
Russia Collusion
Hunters Laptop
Covid Lockdowns and Mandates
Steve Bannon
Peter Navarro
Michael Cohen
George Papadopolous
Roger Stone
Rick Gates
Allen Weisselberg
Michael Flynn

All American citizens. All subject to the Democrats abuse of power.

This really doesn't belong on this forum, but since 94chem insisted on putting it here let's have an honest conversation. The Democrats have been flagrantly abusing power for strictly political purposes for a decade.

I'm truly sorry for this individual if the story you outlined is indeed correct. I am. But one party decided to drag us into this mess by deliberately opening the flood gates on illegal immigration in an attempt to bring in 1 party control. That's what created this mess. If that never happens, the pendulum wouldn't have swung so far to the right in regards to immigration.

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January 6th, huh? That's some conspiracy or abuse of power? If that's what you're starting out with, we probably shouldn't have a conversation on this forum.

Seriously? You can make reasonable case for about a dozen individuals being prosecuted. Thousands of people were prosecuted for doing nothing worse then every single Democrat protest ever.

Don't be ridiculous.

Silent For Too Long said:

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Seriously? You can make reasonable case for about a dozen individuals being prosecuted. Thousands of people were prosecuted for doing nothing worse then every single Democrat protest ever.

Don't be ridiculous.

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They attacked the Capitol of the United States while Congress was in session to certify the results of an election in order to disrupt those proceedings. It's about as textbook a case of insurrection as you can find. Oh, and they assaulted numerous police officers. They got off VERY easy. **** em.

Your brainwashed tribalism is showing.

Yes, a few dozen people clearly crossed the line and absolutely should have been prosecuted.

Thousands of people walked around in an orderly fashion, politely staying within the roped off areas, took some pictures, and peacefully left.

Calling it an insurrection is completely absurd. You are simply incapable of discussing the topic objectively and rationally.

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Your brainwashed tribalism is showing.

Yes, a few dozen people clearly crossed the line and absolutely should have been prosecuted.

Thousands of people walked around in an orderly fashion, politely staying within the roped off areas, took some pictures, and peacefully left.

Calling it an insurrection is completely absurd. You are simply incapable of discussing the topic objectively and rationally.

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Yes, they walked around a building with the windows busted, things stolen, and the members of Congress literally in hiding because they tried to overthrow the results of a duly held election. That's a ****ing insurrection, no matter how polite some of them were.

Silent, you're debating with a fellow Distinguished Professor like 94chem's friend. Show some respect.

Stopped reading at "Distinguished Professor." Capitalized too. LOL.

I had a pretty good list of "distinguished professors" I was going to trash but this isn't the right board to do that.

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I received news from a long-time friend at A&M that one of his grad students, from India, I believe actually a post-doc, was ticketed recently for running a stop sign on his e-scooter while heading out for groceries. He went to court, paid the fine, and thought the matter over. This week, 4 ICE agents, 2 masked, accosted him and ordered him to self-deport within 48 hours or face forcible deportation (to God knows where). When he asked for details, he learned that his documents had been altered by some combination of the CS police, the court, and/or ICE to imply undisclosed felonious actions. You can imagine what this has done to parts of campus. It is, simply put, an act of terror. People close to the situation, fellow believers, are seeing this for what it is, and crying out to God over this injustice, and having to accept that it's happening all over. This student boarded the first plane he could get on, and didn't even have time to speak to his advisor.

We are grown-ups here. We all know that life is not fair, and the world is not just. What is bothering me is how many people I know seem to think there's nothing wrong with the story I just told...that it's okay for the United States of America to function this way. Case in point - if I posted this on F16, the first sarcastic reply would have over 200 blue stars in half an hour.

I just wanted y'all to know what's going on. I hang in some circles that are a bit off the beaten path to most folks. If you think you can remain a spectator, I hope you are right, but I do not think you are.

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Dude it sucks for this guy, but honestly I want as many non Americans removed from here as possible for virtually any reason. We've got waaaaaaaay too many non American people, and something has to give. When you're building statues of Hanuman in Sugarland, and a mayoral candidate is pledging to throw the "biggest Diwali celebration in the world" as a legitimate means to getting elected, it's time for desperate measures.

Almost none of that makes sense or is likely a true story as told, imho. Not credible really, at all. Out of around 725K Indian nationals living in the US illegally, only around 1600 have been deported this year, almost all on commercial flights…to India. Only 15K were deported from 2009-2024.

OP needs to rethink this post.

From the provost.

Given the questions we are receiving, there are several important points I want to share:
1. We are not aware of any verified immigration enforcement action against any of our students or scholars.

this is BS. see Psyops post in politics

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Case in point - if I posted this on F16, the first sarcastic reply would have over 200 blue stars in half an hour.

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Your wish has been granted.
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3549682

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I received news from a long-time friend at A&M that one of his grad students, from India

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I'm guessing this part is not true. He heard the rumor and made it his own. Or he's lying and created the rumor himself.

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Sapper Redux said:

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You really think people in positions of power wouldn't abuse that power?

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The citation came from campus police, $209, misdemeanor-traffic. The record was somehow changed to criminal non-traffic, from a bicycle ticket. Wouldn't surprise me if there is some sort of bounty system in place. Who knows? I have the full text, and it will likely circulate more broadly, but this is coming from a Distinguished Professor I've known for 15 years. We really live in silos. People actually do get disappeared.

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Your definition of "disappeared" versus when people are actually "disappeared" in say a communist country or Nazi Germany are not the same thing. Dudes back in India eating street pudding. He didn't "disappear".

Thank you for conflating.

Amazing

-Posters fall for the fake (but detailed) story
-Other posters repeat it and are outraged by it
-The posters defend the story and shame those who aren't outraged by it

-Story is found to be a fugazi.


But yet even though fake, and even though stories like this have been debunked ad nauseum....it still serves to solidify these posters opinions about the situation/policy.

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Silent For Too Long said:

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Your brainwashed tribalism is showing.

Yes, a few dozen people clearly crossed the line and absolutely should have been prosecuted.

Thousands of people walked around in an orderly fashion, politely staying within the roped off areas, took some pictures, and peacefully left.

Calling it an insurrection is completely absurd. You are simply incapable of discussing the topic objectively and rationally.

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Yes, they walked around a building with the windows busted, things stolen, and the members of Congress literally in hiding because they tried to overthrow the results of a duly held election. That's a ****ing insurrection, no matter how polite some of them were.

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That's because members of Congress uniformly pee sitting down regardless of genitalia, much like the people who claim it was an insurrection.

If you've got a man card, you're a bunch of hole punches away from a free subway sandwich

So it turns out this is a bunch of bullsh**?

And look at all those stars

Captain Pablo said:

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So it turns out this is a bunch of bullsh**?

And look at all those stars

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Yep. People need to start crawfishing.

Captain Pablo said:

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So it turns out this is a bunch of bullsh**?

And look at all those stars

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Topic should have been posted over on F16…This isn't the safe harbor forum just because you're hesitant to post over there….

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Captain Pablo said:

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So it turns out this is a bunch of bullsh**?

And look at all those stars

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Topic should have been posted over on F16…This isn't the safe harbor forum just because you're hesitant to post over there….

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The story wa posted on F16, and was called out for the bullsh** it is

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" I want as many non Americans removed from here as possible for virtually any reason. "

How do you square this outlook with the beatitudes that Jesus preached and then told us plainly that whatever we did to the least of these so we have done unto him?

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With the understanding that there's nothing wrong with removing people from your country who are not supposed to be there, and who know they're not supposed to be there, yet even though they have been warned multiple times that they need to either leave or they will be deported, refuse to leave.

Everything has limits, for a good reason. If I wander off into a restricted area of the Vatican, they will ask me to leave, if I do not leave they will call security and make leave. There is nothing wrong with them doing so.

Try an experiment for me. Find the most charitable and loving and merciful priest you know. Break into their rectory in the middle of the night and wake them up and tell them you need reconciliation immediately. Let me know what happens.