Christian nationalism

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It's about God's plan for the salvation of man throughout history. How God accomplishes this first through Adam with the marriage covenant down through Jesus with the institution of the Eucharist. By partaking in this covenant, we become kinship with the Father.

That is a brief, high level summary. Scott Hahn, in his book, "A Father Who Keeps His Promises: God's Covenant Love in Scripture", Hahn dives deep into this history written throughout scripture. Worth a reading.
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Zobel said:

See what I mean about playing dumb?

It is a thing. There are people who call themselves Christian nationalists and they mean very specific things by it. The problem is there's no universal definition, so you get to play games like this.


Who is the most influential Christian nationalist, for what exactly are they advocating, and how many followers do they have?
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You tell me. Surely you know the answer to this, since you started your op with the statement "those who advocate for it are so miniscule in numbers that it's not remotely relevant in 2025 American culture."
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Silent For Too Long said:


It's not even remotely the same with fascism on the right.


There's no such thing as fascism on the right. The two tenets of fascism are the rejection of a free-market economy in favor of one controlled by the state. Additionally, a fascist state controls all facets of society, which includes a nation's education, healthcare, media, etc.

All of that is ANTITHETICAL to American, right-wing, principles of limited government, free markets, and the protection of individual rights.

Fascism is a far-left ideology.
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Patriot25 said:

Silent For Too Long said:


It's not even remotely the same with fascism on the right.


There's no such thing as fascism on the right. The two tenets of fascism are the rejection of a free-market economy in favor of one controlled by the state. Additionally, a fascist state controls all facets of society, which includes a nation's education, healthcare, media, etc.

All of that is ANTITHETICAL to American, right-wing, principles of limited government, free markets, and the protection of individual rights.

Fascism is a far-left ideology.


Everything you've described as far-right is classical liberalism. Can you explain how liberalism is far right?
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Zobel said:

You tell me. Surely you know the answer to this, since you started your op with the statement "those who advocate for it are so miniscule in numbers that it's not remotely relevant in 2025 American culture."


I fail to see the supposed Christian Nationalist movement in the U.S. Sure, there are a miniscule few advocating for it, like with anything else. Hence, I said it's not a thing. You responded by saying that it IS a thing. I asked you for evidence. Do you have it?
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Quo Vadis? said:

Patriot25 said:

Silent For Too Long said:


It's not even remotely the same with fascism on the right.


There's no such thing as fascism on the right. The two tenets of fascism are the rejection of a free-market economy in favor of one controlled by the state. Additionally, a fascist state controls all facets of society, which includes a nation's education, healthcare, media, etc.

All of that is ANTITHETICAL to American, right-wing, principles of limited government, free markets, and the protection of individual rights.

Fascism is a far-left ideology.


Everything you've described as far-right is classical liberalism. Can you explain how liberalism is far right?



Yes, American conservatism is generally supportive of classic liberalism. I borrowed the following from Wiki:

Classical liberalism is a political tradition and a branch of liberalism that advocates free market and laissez-faire economics and civil liberties under the rule of law, with special emphasis on individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech.[1] Classical liberalism, contrary to liberal branches like social liberalism, looks more negatively on social policies, taxation and the state involvement in the lives of individuals, and it advocates deregulation.[2]
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Once again we run into the heads I win, tails you lose approach.
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As a Christian I view "Christian nationalism" as the desire to live in a Christian nation, but NOT by force. After all, Jesus never forced anyone to follow him.

If this is Christian nationalism, I imagine a large portion of Christians fall into this group which would make it certainly politically significant I'd think.

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A lot of this is just the modern idiotic way of argumentation which is using an under defined term and then pretending you don't understand how it's being used to your advantage.

Again - this is all you're doing.

If you really want to have a discussion on this though, you can read about the New Apostolic Reformation and the Seven Mountains Mandate.
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Zobel said:

Once again we run into the heads I win, tails you lose approach.
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As a Christian I view "Christian nationalism" as the desire to live in a Christian nation, but NOT by force. After all, Jesus never forced anyone to follow him.

If this is Christian nationalism, I imagine a large portion of Christians fall into this group which would make it certainly politically significant I'd think.

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A lot of this is just the modern idiotic way of argumentation which is using an under defined term and then pretending you don't understand how it's being used to your advantage.

Again - this is all you're doing.

If you really want to have a discussion on this though, you can read about the New Apostolic Reformation and the Seven Mountains Mandate.


You ducked my question. Do you want to learn and share together?

Do you believe in Jesus?
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Patriot25 said:

Quo Vadis? said:

Patriot25 said:

Silent For Too Long said:


It's not even remotely the same with fascism on the right.


There's no such thing as fascism on the right. The two tenets of fascism are the rejection of a free-market economy in favor of one controlled by the state. Additionally, a fascist state controls all facets of society, which includes a nation's education, healthcare, media, etc.

All of that is ANTITHETICAL to American, right-wing, principles of limited government, free markets, and the protection of individual rights.

Fascism is a far-left ideology.


Everything you've described as far-right is classical liberalism. Can you explain how liberalism is far right?



Yes, American conservatism is generally supportive of classic liberalism. I borrowed the following from Wiki:

Classical liberalism is a political tradition and a branch of liberalism that advocates free market and laissez-faire economics and civil liberties under the rule of law, with special emphasis on individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech.[1] Classical liberalism, contrary to liberal branches like social liberalism, looks more negatively on social policies, taxation and the state involvement in the lives of individuals, and it advocates deregulation.[2]


There is not such a thing as American conservatism. There is just conservatism and liberalism. Classical liberalism is liberalism.
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Brother, I'm to the right of you politically and spiritually.
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No surprise, you're completely wrong. By my count according to the Department of Justice here: https://www.justice.gov/religious-liberty-commission there are 32 Christians, 7 Jews, and 3 Muslims. That puts the Christian representation at 76%, Jewish at 16%, and Muslim at 8%. Out of religious Americans, Christianity with 76% here is the only one that's accurate with representation. Jews and Muslims are vastly over represented when comparing the numbers to the US population. You can continue with your garbage though and claim Trump only put Christians on it
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Zobel said:

Brother, I'm to the right of you politically and spiritually.


What is your definition of Christian nationalism?
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Quo Vadis? said:

Patriot25 said:

Quo Vadis? said:

Patriot25 said:

Silent For Too Long said:


It's not even remotely the same with fascism on the right.


There's no such thing as fascism on the right. The two tenets of fascism are the rejection of a free-market economy in favor of one controlled by the state. Additionally, a fascist state controls all facets of society, which includes a nation's education, healthcare, media, etc.

All of that is ANTITHETICAL to American, right-wing, principles of limited government, free markets, and the protection of individual rights.

Fascism is a far-left ideology.


Everything you've described as far-right is classical liberalism. Can you explain how liberalism is far right?



Yes, American conservatism is generally supportive of classic liberalism. I borrowed the following from Wiki:

Classical liberalism is a political tradition and a branch of liberalism that advocates free market and laissez-faire economics and civil liberties under the rule of law, with special emphasis on individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech.[1] Classical liberalism, contrary to liberal branches like social liberalism, looks more negatively on social policies, taxation and the state involvement in the lives of individuals, and it advocates deregulation.[2]


There is not such a thing as American conservatism. There is just conservatism and liberalism. Classical liberalism is liberalism.


Ok brother. Nice talk.
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Nice try. I already tried that and got told my definition was wrong.

It's your thread, I think tradition demands you define it.
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Zobel said:

Nice try. I already tried that and got told my definition was wrong.

It's your thread, I think tradition demands you define it.


Nobody's necessarily wrong as the definition is open to interpretation. I believe I shared my definition in my OP.
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an ideology that elevates one nation or nationality above all others and that places primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations, nationalities, or supranational groups

support for and promotion of the political independence or self-determination of a nation or people

a nationalist movement or government

It's certainly noticeable that race is nowhere in that definition, despite what one of our resident leftists wishes.
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Your definition is incoherent with your first sentence, then. If Christian nationalism is simply the desire to live in a Christian nation, exclusive of coercion, then it is absolutely a political force to be reckoned with. That definition probably covers a huge chunk of evangelicals, mainline protestants, catholics, and the orthodox.

Anyway I do think the topic could be beneficial if people actually talk about what "nation" means. Contra B-1 83 above I do think that the first definition - "one nation or nationality above all others...its cultures and interests..." etc - has a strong racial aspect to it.

We moderns in general and Americans in particular have really odd notions about "nation" that are completely unique to the last few centuries in mankind. They are informed by our novel formation as a society built from multiple nations, a kind of alloying of peoples. We then tend to think of the "nation" in the sense of the state, the authority structure that governs the physical place where that mixture of people resides. In that sense, "nation" has an identity relationship with the US. But that's basically no definition at all - that means there's no such thing as the culture of the United States in any kind of permanent sense. There can't be, because that offers no positive or affirmation of what that culture is other than a statement of fact: whatever we see when we look, that is what it is. From that view you can't argue against what the nation of the United States is or even should be - it is whatever it is. That means if the US becomes 90% Indian, there is the US culture.

Contrast that to every single "old world" country. They formed precisely the other way around - a group of families, forming clans, forming tribes, forming nations settled in places, and their governing bodies became the authority structure over that place. The relationship between authority and tribe is inverted. In the modern era this is less clear, and the lines are much less fluid, but the further back you go in time the more explicit it is, and you don't have to go back very far to begin to see it. Here is a map of Europe in the 1700s:



Of course what we lump in as "French" or "Germans" today is an amalgamation of many, many ancient tribal nations. For example, even France itself wasn't anywhere near unified in French-speaking in the late 1800s - several major areas were fully non-Francophone speaking languages like Breton, Basque, Gascon, or Alsatian.

If we use the word "constitute" in its original sense, that would be something like "what makes a thing have being" or "what gives an idea body". To me what constitutes a nation must be the people in it, not the governing structure over it. I think our modern notion of "nation" having an identity relationship with "state" rather than it's true sense of the people is simply wrong. After all, ethnos is the Greek for nation, where we get ethnicity; nation is from Latin natio meaning birth, meaning people with a common ancestry.

On the other hand, over against how we use it today, the ancient mind had only vague notions of heritability and no concept of genetics as such. Ethnos was not about genetic inheritance or the modern idea of race but was instead something to which you were identified by your way of life. Your nation, your ethnos, was something you were a part of because of how you lived, what the Greeks called your nomos. This was an expansive concept that would cover our modern notions of law, religion, culture, and traditions - because in the ancient world the boundaries between these things for the most part simply didn't exist. Our concept of naturalization, though, would have been very acceptable to them - but would have little to do with sworn fealty to a state apparatus, and everything to do with changing how you live your life.

Turning back to the US, then, this doesn't really help us. We are a state comprised of people from many nations. How can we be one nation? In what sense?

You could say - loyalty to the state. This is basically what western democratic societies have done. But this absolutely requires a shared idea of the state, what its purpose is, what it should and shot not do. Or the state becomes malleable in the hands of a changing body politic. I mean, this is kind of the point of a democratic system, right?

So we have to go back one step further: loyalty to some ideal or philosophy or set of ideals upon which the state's governing authority rests. Here we can find a universal principle, because this is no different than what Aristotle said was the purpose of the state. He said that ideal was living well, achieving the good life (not merely mutual defense or exchanging goods), through noble actions (not merely living in common), and therefore was ultimately about the practice of virtue. To him the state arose from the family and tribe because these are the same things families and tribes can bind together.

What is the ideal or philosophy or set of ideals upon which the authority of our state rests? Because fealty to that is what will define a person as a true American. That is what creates an ethnos, a nationality, in the true sense. And that is the only way you safeguard against completely losing the plot, going off script, and having your state become a tool in the hands of whatever genetic-ethnic tribal affiliation currently has the most power. (The above should explain why "western democratic societies" continually fail when they're planted, like in the middle east. It obviously can't be loyalty to the state apparatus or structure of the government, or else Liberia or Syria would be coherent states; let the reader understand.)
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Sapper Redux said:

Patriot25 said:

Christian nationalism is very loosely defined and those who advocate for it are so miniscule in numbers that it's not remotely relevant in 2025 American culture.

As a Christian I view "Christian nationalism" as the desire to live in a Christian nation, but NOT by force. After all, Jesus never forced anyone to follow him.

I guess it can be said that God is a "Christian nationalist". Heaven has gates and walls and only followers of Christ, aka "Christians", can enter.

Thoughts?


Not relevant? Really? Because the Director of Management and Budget and one of the Trump campaign's architects, Russell Vought has openly identified himself as a Christian nationalist. Hegseth's favorite pastor is a Christian nationalist. And Trump's entire faith counsel is Christian nationalist without a single non-Christian on it. You can view Christian nationalism however you like, but force of law and brute force are obviously part of the equation to reach that white Christian utopia where non-Christians are second-class citizens.

Yeah whats your problem? I've seen what Jewish utopia is-it either sucks like how SF and and NYC sucks or it sucks like how the Bolsheviks suck. You want to talk about second class citizens, the political powers of Gods Chosen People (TM) don't consider anyone their equal. And the Talmud say so.
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Quo Vadis? said:


The left should have really tried harder to not make it so obvious they're demonically driven psychopaths who if you leave alone for 2 seconds will butcher unborn children, chemically sterilize children and/or physically mutilate them for social media updoots and maybe such drastic action wouldn't be necessary.


So, for any Christian out there who is curious why the left has soured on Christianity, its because of ignorant hateful brain-washed asshats like this. This hateful rhetoric is the tail wagging the American Christian dog. And until the sane Christians are willing to stand up for anyone that isn't themselves, I say American Christianity is officially broken.
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kurt vonnegut said:

Quo Vadis? said:


The left should have really tried harder to not make it so obvious they're demonically driven psychopaths who if you leave alone for 2 seconds will butcher unborn children, chemically sterilize children and/or physically mutilate them for social media updoots and maybe such drastic action wouldn't be necessary.


So, for any Christian out there who is curious why the left has soured on Christianity, its because of ignorant hateful brain-washed asshats like this. This hateful rhetoric is the tail wagging the American Christian dog. And until the sane Christians are willing to stand up for anyone that isn't themselves, I say American Christianity is officially broken.

No different than open minded Christians have soured on leftism when they see raonbow, dildo butt monkeys reading to kids. If we want to judge each other by our extremes, we're both in trouble. The issue for your side is that our whackos are less whacko than yours.
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kurt vonnegut said:

Quo Vadis? said:


The left should have really tried harder to not make it so obvious they're demonically driven psychopaths who if you leave alone for 2 seconds will butcher unborn children, chemically sterilize children and/or physically mutilate them for social media updoots and maybe such drastic action wouldn't be necessary.


So, for any Christian out there who is curious why the left has soured on Christianity, its because of ignorant hateful brain-washed asshats like this. This hateful rhetoric is the tail wagging the American Christian dog. And until the sane Christians are willing to stand up for anyone that isn't themselves, I say American Christianity is officially broken.

Local atheist upset at milquetoast Christian ethics post against **checks notes** abortion and the obvious lies surrounding transgenderism. More news at 5.

So is there any room for Christian ethics or do I have to bend the knee to every platitude an atheist makes about my religion so that my religion is charitable in their mind? A mind that is real big on that 'love everyone' part, forgets the rest, and still don't even believe in Him.

Will any sane atheist stand up for killing the unborn and declare transgenderism a lie? Where is this science atheist always talk about? American atheism is officially broken.
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I must have missed that. Do you have a link to rainbow dildo butt monkeys reading to kids?
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just so i get my timeline right did yall sour on christianity before or after you and your ideological compatriots murdered 16% of gen x, 28% of millennials, and 23% of gen z?
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To be fair to you, it was in Europe, but it's the funniest example of how absurd the left can get. In America we only have transgendered story hour, child drag shows, dudes in girl bathrooms, etc.

https://theweek.com/news/world-news/953482/dildo-wielding-rainbow-monkey-booked-for-kids-reading-event
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one MEEN Ag said:

kurt vonnegut said:

Quo Vadis? said:


The left should have really tried harder to not make it so obvious they're demonically driven psychopaths who if you leave alone for 2 seconds will butcher unborn children, chemically sterilize children and/or physically mutilate them for social media updoots and maybe such drastic action wouldn't be necessary.


So, for any Christian out there who is curious why the left has soured on Christianity, its because of ignorant hateful brain-washed asshats like this. This hateful rhetoric is the tail wagging the American Christian dog. And until the sane Christians are willing to stand up for anyone that isn't themselves, I say American Christianity is officially broken.

Local atheist upset at milquetoast Christian ethics post against **checks notes** abortion and the obvious lies surrounding transgenderism. More news at 5.

So is there any room for Christian ethics or do I have to bend the knee to every platitude an atheist makes about my religion so that my religion is charitable in their mind? A mind that is real big on that 'love everyone' part, forgets the rest, and still don't even believe in Him.

Will any sane atheist stand up for killing the unborn and declare transgenderism a lie? Where is this science atheist always talk about? American atheism is officially broken.


This is idiotic. Your justification for attacking atheists is that we don't share the same beliefs as you? And to show our sanity, you want us to agree with your morals and ethics?

Find me an atheist here who posts that all Christians are demonically driven psychopaths that want to butcher children and I'll speak up against them because I'm not some simple minded **** that has to always defend 'my side' no matter what.

I think I need to stop posting on this board. There was a time when the Christians here were decent people. Now, I think 95% of your are just hateful *******s.
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kurt vonnegut said:

one MEEN Ag said:

kurt vonnegut said:

Quo Vadis? said:


The left should have really tried harder to not make it so obvious they're demonically driven psychopaths who if you leave alone for 2 seconds will butcher unborn children, chemically sterilize children and/or physically mutilate them for social media updoots and maybe such drastic action wouldn't be necessary.


So, for any Christian out there who is curious why the left has soured on Christianity, its because of ignorant hateful brain-washed asshats like this. This hateful rhetoric is the tail wagging the American Christian dog. And until the sane Christians are willing to stand up for anyone that isn't themselves, I say American Christianity is officially broken.

Local atheist upset at milquetoast Christian ethics post against **checks notes** abortion and the obvious lies surrounding transgenderism. More news at 5.

So is there any room for Christian ethics or do I have to bend the knee to every platitude an atheist makes about my religion so that my religion is charitable in their mind? A mind that is real big on that 'love everyone' part, forgets the rest, and still don't even believe in Him.

Will any sane atheist stand up for killing the unborn and declare transgenderism a lie? Where is this science atheist always talk about? American atheism is officially broken.


This is idiotic. Your justification for attacking atheists is that we don't share the same beliefs as you? And to show our sanity, you want us to agree with your morals and ethics?
Sir this is literally what your original post was. Pot meet kettle.


Find me an atheist here who posts that all Christians are demonically driven psychopaths that want to butcher children and I'll speak up against them because I'm not some simple minded **** that has to always defend 'my side' no matter what.
Athiests don't believe in demons. But demons believe in you. Please use your big big nonchristian brain to show us how transgenderism is scientifically sound and where new life begins if it doesn't happen at conception.


I think I need to stop posting on this board. There was a time when the Christians here were decent people. Now, I think 95% of your are just hateful *******s.
Again, Christians basically not agreeing with your ethics is not being a hateful *******. And being decent is about just agreeing with you.

I think you have a point though, Christians are waking up from the slumber of society's sins. American decadence is coming to an end, and what did our consumerism bring? Just easier access to our vices? A hollowing out of Christianity? America has advanced the most over the last 20 years in tv size, porn usage, weed quality, gambling access, and tv show quality. Someone roll out the mission accomplished banner, anyone got one in Hebrew?

A decade ago you'd get a lot of christians say 'live and let live'. And now we've seen the societal slide of that. It ends with christians just asking for debate and conversation getting shot in the neck by transgender demons. So yeah, you're going to get a lot more, 'You're wrong and your worldview is wrong' from here on out.

Buckle up. America will be Orthodox.


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Are you saying most Christians on this board have been hateful to you? I don't see it outside of a handful.

And you know we're coming off watching thousands of people celebrating the murder of a man for holding anti-abortion, anti-child transition views, right? Maybe they don't post it on this particular board, but they aren't exactly hard to find.

Again, if we're judging both sides by their whackos, we're both gonna have a tough time defending our own side.
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Someone roll out the mission accomplished banner, anyone got one in Hebrew?


The **** does this mean?
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one MEEN Ag said:

Sapper Redux said:

Patriot25 said:

Christian nationalism is very loosely defined and those who advocate for it are so miniscule in numbers that it's not remotely relevant in 2025 American culture.

As a Christian I view "Christian nationalism" as the desire to live in a Christian nation, but NOT by force. After all, Jesus never forced anyone to follow him.

I guess it can be said that God is a "Christian nationalist". Heaven has gates and walls and only followers of Christ, aka "Christians", can enter.

Thoughts?


Not relevant? Really? Because the Director of Management and Budget and one of the Trump campaign's architects, Russell Vought has openly identified himself as a Christian nationalist. Hegseth's favorite pastor is a Christian nationalist. And Trump's entire faith counsel is Christian nationalist without a single non-Christian on it. You can view Christian nationalism however you like, but force of law and brute force are obviously part of the equation to reach that white Christian utopia where non-Christians are second-class citizens.

Yeah whats your problem? I've seen what Jewish utopia is-it either sucks like how SF and and NYC sucks or it sucks like how the Bolsheviks suck. You want to talk about second class citizens, the political powers of Gods Chosen People (TM) don't consider anyone their equal. And the Talmud say so.


Ah. Missed this one earlier. So now we're just open with the antisemitism. Got it.
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kurt vonnegut said:

one MEEN Ag said:

kurt vonnegut said:

Quo Vadis? said:


The left should have really tried harder to not make it so obvious they're demonically driven psychopaths who if you leave alone for 2 seconds will butcher unborn children, chemically sterilize children and/or physically mutilate them for social media updoots and maybe such drastic action wouldn't be necessary.


So, for any Christian out there who is curious why the left has soured on Christianity, its because of ignorant hateful brain-washed asshats like this. This hateful rhetoric is the tail wagging the American Christian dog. And until the sane Christians are willing to stand up for anyone that isn't themselves, I say American Christianity is officially broken.

Local atheist upset at milquetoast Christian ethics post against **checks notes** abortion and the obvious lies surrounding transgenderism. More news at 5.

So is there any room for Christian ethics or do I have to bend the knee to every platitude an atheist makes about my religion so that my religion is charitable in their mind? A mind that is real big on that 'love everyone' part, forgets the rest, and still don't even believe in Him.

Will any sane atheist stand up for killing the unborn and declare transgenderism a lie? Where is this science atheist always talk about? American atheism is officially broken.


This is idiotic. Your justification for attacking atheists is that we don't share the same beliefs as you? And to show our sanity, you want us to agree with your morals and ethics?

Find me an atheist here who posts that all Christians are demonically driven psychopaths that want to butcher children and I'll speak up against them because I'm not some simple minded **** that has to always defend 'my side' no matter what.

I think I need to stop posting on this board. There was a time when the Christians here were decent people. Now, I think 95% of your are just hateful *******s.


What do you think caused this metamorphosis?
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Bud, you've been calling me antisemitic for strictly biblical passage discussions for years now.

Your words have no power to me.

Does modern judiasms have any critique of the state of this country besides anti-semitism? They seem to be okay with mass immigration, LGBTQ agenda, cultural hollowing of Christianity in America and erosion of American institutions. They are the overwhelming financiers of vices including America's slave industry. Overrepresented in Ivy League demographics. The president of the ADL had a dry erase board in his camera background counting down the percentage of white people in America from the 1960s. Judeo-Christian values seem to only run in one direction here.

This isn't even getting into the occult and kabbalistic strains of judiasm.

So yeah. There is some Jewish groups that hate Christ who look at the last 30 years and say, 'good work, Baal.' Maybe not at your synagogue, but they exist.
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They are the overwhelming financiers of vices including America's slave industry.


No, Jews are not. Not even ****ing close. You're just spewing antisemitic conspiracy theories now.

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Overrepresented in Ivy League demographics.


Jews with the resources put a huge emphasis on higher education to break down institutional barriers and antisemitism. The response of the Ivy League was to institute quotas on Jews (and Catholics for that matter).

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So yeah. There is some Jewish groups that hate Christ who look at the last 30 years and say, 'good work, Baal.' Maybe not at your synagogue, but they exist.


Yes, you who spouts the most idiotic antisemitic conspiracy theories clearly knows better than me… a Jewish guy. You have no evidence. You just have bull*****
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one MEEN Ag said:

Bud, you've been calling me antisemitic for strictly biblical passage discussions for years now.

Your words have no power to me.

Does modern judiasms have any critique of the state of this country besides anti-semitism? They seem to be okay with mass immigration, LGBTQ agenda, cultural hollowing of Christianity in America and erosion of American institutions. They are the overwhelming financiers of vices including America's slave industry. Overrepresented in Ivy League demographics. The president of the ADL had a dry erase board in his camera background counting down the percentage of white people in America from the 1960s. Judeo-Christian values seem to only run in one direction here.

This isn't even getting into the occult and kabbalistic strains of judiasm.

So yeah. There is some Jewish groups that hate Christ who look at the last 30 years and say, 'good work, Baal.' Maybe not at your synagogue, but they exist.


I remember seeing that while watching that video, absolute jaw dropper. Especially since you weren't supposed to see it, the camera just panned past it.
Quo Vadis?
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Sapper Redux said:

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They are the overwhelming financiers of vices including America's slave industry.


No, Jews are not. Not even ****ing close. You're just spewing antisemitic conspiracy theories now.


How about the pornography industry?
 
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