Is the wedding at Cana an intersession by Mary to Jesus?
10andBOUNCE said:
Christ fulfilled the fullness of the law, and the wedding is a great picture of the 5th commandment.
To then turn that into intercession that can even be applied to us through his mother is quite the leap.
File5 said:
I don't understand this. It applied to the people at the wedding. She saw their need and interceded for them. If she's alive in heaven (and I believe all saints are) then she can do the same for us there. Jesus saves and has the power, she's just interceding exactly like the wedding here. How is this a stretch of logic?
Howdy, it is me! said:File5 said:
I don't understand this. It applied to the people at the wedding. She saw their need and interceded for them. If she's alive in heaven (and I believe all saints are) then she can do the same for us there. Jesus saves and has the power, she's just interceding exactly like the wedding here. How is this a stretch of logic?
But we don't need her to do that.
Frok said:
The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is our intercessor
Frok said:
True, Jesus is our mediator and the Holy Spirit intercedes for us.
Frok said:
That is not clear to me, you can theorize that but it doesn't line up with the rest of scripture IMO.
Nobody prays to anyone other than God. The incense is the prayers of the saints but I don't see any instruction for other saints to pray to the saints.
FTACo88-FDT24dad said:Frok said:
That is not clear to me, you can theorize that but it doesn't line up with the rest of scripture IMO.
Nobody prays to anyone other than God. The incense is the prayers of the saints but I don't see any instruction for other saints to pray to the saints.
It's not theory anymore than your theory that no one prays to anyone other than God. But of course, if it's just each of us and our Bible a la sola scriptura you don't have any principled way to contradict the biblical exegesis I just gave you, other than your subjective opinion. So, you do you.
Where are the instructions to use the Bible alone as the rule of faith? I'll hang up and listen.
FTACo88-FDT24dad said:Howdy, it is me! said:File5 said:
I don't understand this. It applied to the people at the wedding. She saw their need and interceded for them. If she's alive in heaven (and I believe all saints are) then she can do the same for us there. Jesus saves and has the power, she's just interceding exactly like the wedding here. How is this a stretch of logic?
But we don't need her to do that.
Do you ask others to pray for you? You don't "need" them either.
FTACo88-FDT24dad said:FTACo88-FDT24dad said:Frok said:
That is not clear to me, you can theorize that but it doesn't line up with the rest of scripture IMO.
Nobody prays to anyone other than God. The incense is the prayers of the saints but I don't see any instruction for other saints to pray to the saints.
It's not theory anymore than your theory that no one prays to anyone other than God. But of course, if it's just each of us and our Bible a la sola scriptura you don't have any principled way to contradict the biblical exegesis I just gave you, other than your subjective opinion. So, you do you.
Where are the instructions to use the Bible alone as the rule of faith? I'll hang up and listen.
File5 said:
Says who? Scripture?