SpaceX and other space news updates

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Kaiser von Wilhelm
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TexAgs91 said:

Public service notice: if you have titanium body parts, you might want to steer clear of Starship booster catches.



Holy crap. The titanium plate in my skull would make for a bad time.

Why does Elon hate metal people...?
txags92
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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

TexAgs91 said:

Public service notice: if you have titanium body parts, you might want to steer clear of Starship booster catches.



Holy crap. The titanium plate in my skull would make for a bad time.

Why does Elon hate metal people...?
Competition for his robots.
will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
TXAG 05
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will25u said:




I wonder which village was hit by the first stage of this rocket.
nortex97
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Possibly/maybe Neutron test launch in Sept:


Raptor 3 vacuum spotted for testing:
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CanyonAg77
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I hate light pollution.

jkag89
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I agree but I do love night photos from the orbit especially when I can recognize the city in question.
plain_o_llama
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I assume the "fireflies" on the right are the Eagle Ford field infrastructure.
txags92
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plain_o_llama said:

I assume the "fireflies" on the right are the Eagle Ford field infrastructure.
Probably Austin chalk wells.
Kenneth_2003
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txags92 said:

plain_o_llama said:

I assume the "fireflies" on the right are the Eagle Ford field infrastructure.
Probably Austin chalk wells.


Yeah the Eagle Ford runs more east/west
nortex97
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BO NG (what an acronym) 2nd stage test fire last week:

Good wrap-up of stuff:

Since this is politics but also policy related, Isaacman's testimony was, in my opinion, excellent. I hope he is confirmed and succeeds.

TexAgs91
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It looked like in the hearing congressmen would ask him if he would like to do XY and Z as Nasa chief, and he was like, Absolutely. They didn't get to the part where they weren't going to give him any money to do any of that.
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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will25u
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Awesome view of HOME from SpaceX fairing.

will25u
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T-8 mins for Firefly Aerospace.

Decay
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TexAgs91 said:

It looked like in the hearing congressmen would ask him if he would like to do XY and Z as Nasa chief, and he was like, Absolutely. They didn't get to the part where they weren't going to give him any money to do any of that.
I think a guy like Jared can maneuver NASA into being able to afford the extreme science if he's able to offload the bloat.

We flew an aircraft on another planet for the cost of an SLS paint job. I feel for the engineers trying to make things happen with limited budgets when they have to compete with what was basically history's most expensive launch.
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will25u said:

T-8 mins for Firefly Aerospace.


Looks like they scrubbed for today.
nortex97
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Didn't quite make it. Amazingly, after making contact between 1st and 2nd stages, I guess the engine nozzle fell off, and it still managed to reach altitude, but not orbital velocity.

ABATTBQ11
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nortex97 said:

BO NG (what an acronym) 2nd stage test fire last week:



It's the BONG DONG
NASAg03
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Quick video about the IM LTV simulator:

nortex97
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And there it is. Will see what congress does with SLS funding.
lb3
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There is 0% that budget plan passes. It cuts NASA from $24B to $18B. That's a lot of congressional districts being impacted.

SLS & Orion cancelled after Artemis III and Gateway right away.
nortex97
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Pretty solid chance SLS dies though. Presidents never get their draft budgets taken too seriously, you are correct. I think Isaacman is likely to face a floor vote next week (he made it thru committee pretty easily).

If he's confirmed and sticks to this tune it's tough to see more than perhaps one more SLS launch.

Personally, I think that's a great thing, but the next question is how the 'successor' steps are implemented/funded. There just aren't going to be a lot of GOP senators willing to fight/die on this hill vs. Trump, and that includes FL/MS/AL.
TexAgs91
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I'm fine with SLS being cancelled, but I want to know are we going to be working towards going directly to Mars or are we still doing sorties on the moon to build up technical expertise. (I'm in favor of option 2 as long as we don't get too bogged down on the moon, and parallel missions to the moon and mars are even better)
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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bmks270
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Why can't we make a modernized iteration of the Saturn 5? Similar architecture but with modern engineering techniques?

Why is every NASA rocket program trying to both re-invent the wheel and use the old wheels at the same time just for contractors?
Decay
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bmks270 said:

Why can't we make a modernized iteration of the Saturn 5? Similar architecture but with modern engineering techniques?

Why is every NASA rocket program trying to both re-invent the wheel and use the old wheels at the same time just for contractors?

I've heard that it's a few things.

For one, each Saturn was painstakingly handcrafted. We have all the plans and such, but the actual fabrication was basically custom and it's not like we can dust off the old castiron molds or anything. Each rocket was barely a copy of the last one, so copying that doesn't get us much.

And since technology has advanced, a lot of the techniques and materials are now more expensive and unnecessary. And once you make changes like that, you'll have ripple effects that make you start changing more and more until you're essentially designing a new rocket anyway.

I'm sure there's more but that's the impression I got from asking that question.
double aught
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I have a Lego Saturn V that's pretty nice, if they need to use it for a model.
nortex97
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We tried to make a Saturn V successor that would be more affordable, in the space shuttle program, but it wound up being just as expensive. Then that morphed into a successor program (Orion begat SLS eventually) using the same engines/most of the hardware which wound up…just as expensive.

The engines are really not much more advanced than the F1 but wound up costing $100 million each which is pretty hysterical. And we gave up on reusability for some insane reason somewhere along the line. Bonus for no single SLS being the same just as with the Saturn V, even needing a new mobile launch tower to be built for a new version (untold billions more, despite literally using Saturn V crawlers). And, it's prone to having 'problems' pop up:


Anyway, apparently not going to hit week 3 target in May for the next flight:

Kenneth_2003
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Decay said:

bmks270 said:

Why can't we make a modernized iteration of the Saturn 5? Similar architecture but with modern engineering techniques?

Why is every NASA rocket program trying to both re-invent the wheel and use the old wheels at the same time just for contractors?

I've heard that it's a few things.

For one, each Saturn was painstakingly handcrafted. We have all the plans and such, but the actual fabrication was basically custom and it's not like we can dust off the old castiron molds or anything. Each rocket was barely a copy of the last one, so copying that doesn't get us much.

And since technology has advanced, a lot of the techniques and materials are now more expensive and unnecessary. And once you make changes like that, you'll have ripple effects that make you start changing more and more until you're essentially designing a new rocket anyway.

I'm sure there's more but that's the impression I got from asking that question.

Curious Droid has a good short discussion about this.
Short answer, we cannot rebuild them, but more than that we wouldn't want to.

bmks270
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I don't mean copy the blue prints, I mean the architecture. Stage sizing, stage thrust, orbit, etc. can be totally different and modern engines, modern design and engineering.

nortex97
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LOL.

will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
nortex97
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NSF:
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SpaceX might have been trying to replicate the Flight 7 and 8 issues on the ground, pushing an engine too far. If that's the case, SpaceX might have found and solved the issue. Of course, without any official confirmation from SpaceX, this is all speculation. Currently, SpaceX has not released its own footage of the test, unlike after the single engine test.

Ship 35 has since been rolled back to Mega Bay 2 for post-engine testing processing. Regarding when Flight 9 might fly, this could've pushed back any tentative launch date, which was understood to be centering around May 9/10. This date range is understood to have been ruled out following the test.

It is currently unclear what is next for Ship 35. Normally, SpaceX would roll to the launch site after a short stay back at the Production Site. If teams require additional testing, the Ship would likely roll back out to Masseys for another Static Fire test.
Of course, they've got a couple other ships that should be ready anyway by the end of this month, though it seems no two upper stage starships are the same, yet:
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It is noteworthy that Ship 36 took slightly longer to get to cryogenic proof testing than previous ships. This could be because SpaceX has made a few modifications to the Ship due to past failures. With its cryogenic testing completed, Ship 36 is back inside Mega Bay 2 and is currently getting outfitted for Static Fire testing. As the next Ship after Ship 35, it is currently slated to fly on Flight 10.

The objectives for Flight 10 are entirely dependent on how Flight 9 performs, so there is much speculation about what it will try to accomplish.

The fifth fully stacked Block 2 Ship is Ship 37, which was completed only a few weeks ago and is currently in final assembly before heading out for a cryogenic proof test in a couple of weeks. Ship 37 is currently slated for Flight 11 and could be the first Ship to get to orbit, depending on how Flight 9 performs and what plans SpaceX has for Flight 10. Currently, Ship 37 is missing many tiles and ablative and felt; SpaceX may be waiting on data from Ship 35 before completing its heat shield.
5-10-20 engine configuration for booster block 3 (from B18 on?). Based on jack Beyer speculation on X.
jt2hunt
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will25u said:




They barely squeaked that one by!
will25u
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