***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Russian Ministry of Defense claims full occupation of Malyivka village of Dnipropetrovsk region and Zelenyi Hai village of Donetsk region of Ukraine


https://liveuamap.com/en/2025/26-july-09-russian-ministry-of-defense-claims-full-occupation
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Like microwaves? Yeah, but that's not going to stop these. They can fly high and out of range and then dive bomb a target or get back low once out of range. They're also networked with each other and other SIGINT or EW drones so they can tell each other what air defense they encounter and where so drones in the same wave can avoid or go around them.

The best counter is some way to get a cheap kinetic kill, but that's easier said than done.

Thanks for the reply. I was curious based on some articles, below is one.
What Are EMPs and How Are They Used in Warfare?
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-Due to their non-physically destructive nature, NNEMPs can be used against a variety of targets, depending upon their intended effect. Society and military structure are built heavily upon the use of electronics, meaning that the effectiveness of EMPs as weapons are essentially endless.
In war-fighting situations, they could knock out naval ships, disable communications networks, jam tanks, kill radar networks you name it. If it's electronically based, it can probably be knocked offline by an EMP device.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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richardag said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

Like microwaves? Yeah, but that's not going to stop these. They can fly high and out of range and then dive bomb a target or get back low once out of range. They're also networked with each other and other SIGINT or EW drones so they can tell each other what air defense they encounter and where so drones in the same wave can avoid or go around them.

The best counter is some way to get a cheap kinetic kill, but that's easier said than done.

Thanks for the reply. I was curious based on some articles, below is one.
What Are EMPs and How Are They Used in Warfare?
quote from this article
-Due to their non-physically destructive nature, NNEMPs can be used against a variety of targets, depending upon their intended effect. Society and military structure are built heavily upon the use of electronics, meaning that the effectiveness of EMPs as weapons are essentially endless.
In war-fighting situations, they could knock out naval ships, disable communications networks, jam tanks, kill radar networks you name it. If it's electronically based, it can probably be knocked offline by an EMP device.

Military equipment like radars (and associated equipment) combat-recce type aircraft, warships, and armored vehicles are generally hardened against EMP effects as they were designed for use in a potential nuclear war.

That said, an EMP would still degrade them to some extent, especially if part of a network that had elements that were not hardened against the effects.
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Andrew Perpetua Post

Posting the link instead of embedding the post because of obscenities. Ukraine modded a Stryker to be heavily resistant to drones. New tactic incoming?





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Ok, I stand corrected. Wishful thinking on my part!

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Always a day late and a dollar short when it comes to dealing with Russia.

"Trump said he would now give Putin 10 to 12 days from Monday, meaning he wants peace efforts to make progress by Aug. 7-9. The plan includes possible sanctions and secondary tariffs targeting Russia's trading partners."

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richardag said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

Like microwaves? Yeah, but that's not going to stop these. They can fly high and out of range and then dive bomb a target or get back low once out of range. They're also networked with each other and other SIGINT or EW drones so they can tell each other what air defense they encounter and where so drones in the same wave can avoid or go around them.

The best counter is some way to get a cheap kinetic kill, but that's easier said than done.

Thanks for the reply. I was curious based on some articles, below is one.
What Are EMPs and How Are They Used in Warfare?
quote from this article
-Due to their non-physically destructive nature, NNEMPs can be used against a variety of targets, depending upon their intended effect. Society and military structure are built heavily upon the use of electronics, meaning that the effectiveness of EMPs as weapons are essentially endless.
In war-fighting situations, they could knock out naval ships, disable communications networks, jam tanks, kill radar networks you name it. If it's electronically based, it can probably be knocked offline by an EMP device.


Inverse square law limits range and effectiveness. You need something really, really high powered or well focused in order to increase the effective range. Think of it like a shotgun. Up close, all of the shot is concentrated and does lots of damage. Further out, the shot is spread out and does less damage, though you have a wider spread and better chance of hitting your target.

An EMP type device would a) fry or at least degrade and interfere with your own stuff unless you focused it into a beam and b) suffer limitations on range as it naturally diffuses with range. While you could hit a bunch of drones at once, you can only do it up close. The easiest counter is to just go over such a weapon, out of its range, and either drop bombs on it or continue to some other target.
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Russia continues to target Ukrainian civilians.

"At least 25 people have been killed across Ukraine in overnight and early morning Russian air strikes that hit a prison and a hospital, local officials say.
They say the deadliest attack was on the Bilenke penitentiary in the southern Zaporizhzhia region, where 16 inmates were killed and more than 50 injured.
A separate Russian strike on people queuing for humanitarian aid killed five in the north-eastern Kharkiv region. Three people - including a pregnant woman - were killed in the central Dnipropetrovsk region."

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sclaff said:



More on the systematic attacks on Russian land LOCs. Could it be Ukraine is preparing the battlefield for something offensive in late summer?

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Waffledynamics said:



This is a very interesting tweet.
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How so?
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Here's a first ever look at Ukraine's secret original USV which launched the sea battle that forced the Russian navy to retreat to the far edges of the Black Sea.

Today, Ukraine's follow-on generations of USVs are not just attacking surface ships but are also firing on Russian aircraft and launching drones of their own.

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Instead of reinventing the proverbial wheel, why not designate Ukraine as an approved drone vendor for DOD acquisition and take advantage of its combat-proven technology?

"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy recently teased a "mega deal" in progress to swap the latest Ukrainian drones for American air defense and ammunition."

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Closer look at Russia's approach to Rodynske, North of Myrnohrad and Northeast of Pokrovsk. This is reported by DeepStateMap as of yesterday.

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GAC06 said:

How so?

Because Bell hasn't said anything to their employees about it, nor posted anything else publicly.
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The new jet powered version of Russia's Shahed drone is causing real problems.

"The strike highlighted growing concerns that these weapons are harder to track and intercept than propeller-driven Shaheds because of how fast and high they fly. Until alternatives are found, these drones will require Ukraine to use expensive and precious surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) that can cost millions apiece."

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If Russia is upping the ante like this, in my opinion it's time to up Ukraine's ante and give them something to smash those drone factories.

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Naveronski said:

GAC06 said:

How so?

Because Bell hasn't said anything to their employees about it, nor posted anything else publicly.

I think it's likely Bell has had preliminary talks with the Ukrainian minister of the economy about a 'readiness for' post-war investments, but nothing finalized/specific as to manufacturing/the AH-1Z etc. pictured/otherwise. Some irony in that Igor Sikorsky was from Kiev (fled to the US after the lovely communist revolution.)
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74OA said:

Always a day late and a dollar short when it comes to dealing with Russia.

"Trump said he would now give Putin 10 to 12 days from Monday, meaning he wants peace efforts to make progress by Aug. 7-9. The plan includes possible sanctions and secondary tariffs targeting Russia's trading partners."

50 DAYS
How much bigger can our "sanctions" get? The only real stick we can wield is to tell Putin we are going to flood Ukraine with various armaments that will guarantee any territorial progress he has made the last year gets lost.
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MaxPower said:

74OA said:

Always a day late and a dollar short when it comes to dealing with Russia.

"Trump said he would now give Putin 10 to 12 days from Monday, meaning he wants peace efforts to make progress by Aug. 7-9. The plan includes possible sanctions and secondary tariffs targeting Russia's trading partners."

50 DAYS

How much bigger can our "sanctions" get? The only real stick we can wield is to tell Putin we are going to flood Ukraine with various armaments that will guarantee any territorial progress he has made the last year gets lost.

Something beats nothing and we were staring at this administration doing nothing at all just a few months ago. Senate budget package includes a proposed $800M for Ukraine aid, btw.

Anything that helps buy time while Europe ramps-up to fill the gap left by the US is a good thing. The reality of Putin's irredentist ambitions and unflinching brutality is finally sinking in at the WH.
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74OA said:

The new jet powered version of Russia's Shahed drone is causing real problems.

"The strike highlighted growing concerns that these weapons are harder to track and intercept than propeller-driven Shaheds because of how fast and high they fly. Until alternatives are found, these drones will require Ukraine to use expensive and precious surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) that can cost millions apiece."

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At what performance point do we go back to calling these cruise missiles instead of drones?
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Jet or rocket propulsion would generally fall under cruise missile category, but it seems to also depend on if they are self guided to a predetermined target or target class, or if they are remote guided through the flight by a human or remote automated controller that is selecting the flight path and final target.
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Speaking of drones and their ever-evolving uses, here's a story about a soldier trapped behind enemy lines for days before being found and rescued with assistance from drones.

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Unfortunately I think Trump's campaign position on the war motivated Putin to push harder. Putin thought he could get a sweetheart deal from Trump, who just wanted to be able to say he ended the war regardless of how disproportionate the "agreement" is. The problem is Ukraine wasn't going to take a garbage deal and there's too much support both in the U.S. and Europe for Ukraine to give in to Putin's lunacy.
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Surprised not to see more on F16 bout this. I think it was an opening for Trump to put pressure on Putin while being able to blame Russia.

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FobTies said:

Surprised not to see more on F16 bout this. I think it was an opening for Trump to put pressure on Putin while being able to blame Russia.

Nothing burger. He didn't say nuclear ballistic missile subs (ie SSBNs) or nuclear attack subs (SSN or SSGNs). All are "nuclear subs". Nobody talks about where boomers are and what they are doing. Just doesn't happen. Trump is just letting Medvedev know we actually have the ability to deploy our subs anywhere we want any time for as long as we want, while Russians have trouble keeping theirs at sea for very long too far from home.
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We know subs are nuclear powered, but do we actually know these arent nuclear warhead capable?

Russia tells Trump to watch his mouth, reminding him that they have nuke tech. Trump calls him out, then sends over a couple subs. Not a cold war situation to be concerned about, but also not a nothing burger.
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FobTies said:

We know subs are nuclear powered, but do we actually know these arent nuclear warhead capable?

Russia tells Trump to watch his mouth, reminding him that they have nuke tech. Trump calls him out, then sends over a couple subs. Not a cold war situation to be concerned about, but also not a nothing burger.

The SSGNs and SSNs can carry nuclear warhead capable tomahawks. The SSBNs are the only ones carrying ballistic nukes.
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And with a missile range of 7500+ miles the SSBN's don't really need to be moved somewhere to threaten Russia
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Germany confirms sending two additional Patriot systems to Ukraine.

"The first components, including launchers, are set to arrive within days, with complete system elements to follow in the next two to three months."

SAM

Europe has significantly bumped up Aster missile production in a short time. Also used by Ukraine in the SAMP/T system.

"In February 2025, a contract amendment increased the total missile order to 918, incorporating the UK and mandating an accelerated delivery schedule. According to MBDA, the new framework has resulted in a dramatic increase in 2025 production capacity, with deliveries now arriving at more than five times the pre-2023 pace."

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