Hope they don't share discovery…

Y'all have a lot more faith in the French judicial process than do I.

Demosthenes81 said:

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Y'all have a lot more faith in the French judicial process than do I.

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I don't think Delaware if French.

Lawsuit is filed in Delaware State Court, so NYT v Sullivan is going to be the standard.

https://clarelocke.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Complaint89.pdf

Demosthenes81 said:

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Y'all have a lot more faith in the French judicial process than do I.

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do you know what French socialist revolutionaries used to carry out justice?

candace better watch out.

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I think Candace Owens is hot and I would for sure do her. I also agree with her politics generally. But in spite of those things, she still gets on my nerves. She needs to learn how to be tactful and and speak purposefully without coming across as an abrasive loudmouth.

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Why?

So you get butterflies on your stomach?

But go online should be to seek truth pursue excellence

Is she speaking the truth or not should be the only goal you have. Not getting into your feelings not getting the weather she's tactful or not. That's what the last said about Trump and you see how much kicking ass he's doing

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She is bat sh-t crazy. She got popular because she was a "strong black conservative woman" who wasn't afraid to speak her mind. Once she got a bunch of fame and notoriety, she dove into the celeb BS that only the uneducated care about. Now she's doing a complete 180 on Trump simply because she hates Jews. She's a lunatic and it wouldn't surprise me one bit to hear that some rich Dem donor gave her a bunch of money to do a complete 180 and create divide within the Republican Party. I mean imagine grifting for a country like Iran.

Gigem_94 said:

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Hmmm, another Michael First "Lady"?

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Strange...they should call themselves Peggy

David_Puddy said:

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Daddy said:

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Ag_0112358132134 said:

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I think Candace Owens is hot and I would for sure do her. I also agree with her politics generally. But in spite of those things, she still gets on my nerves. She needs to learn how to be tactful and and speak purposefully without coming across as an abrasive loudmouth.

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Why?

So you get butterflies on your stomach?

But go online should be to seek truth pursue excellence

Is she speaking the truth or not should be the only goal you have. Not getting into your feelings not getting the weather she's tactful or not. That's what the last said about Trump and you see how much kicking ass he's doing

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She is bat sh-t crazy. She got popular because she was a "strong black conservative woman" who wasn't afraid to speak her mind. Once she got a bunch of fame and notoriety, she dove into the celeb BS that only the uneducated care about. Now she's doing a complete 180 on Trump simply because she hates Jews. She's a lunatic and it wouldn't surprise me one bit to hear that some rich Dem donor gave her a bunch of money to do a complete 180 and create divide within the Republican Party. I mean imagine grifting for a country like Iran.

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Being highly critical of Israel =/= hating Jews

Candace Owens is one of the most annoying and counter productive "conservatives" anywhere in our society.

She is like Crocket on the dem side. B-A-D

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David_Puddy said:

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Daddy said:

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Ag_0112358132134 said:

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I think Candace Owens is hot and I would for sure do her. I also agree with her politics generally. But in spite of those things, she still gets on my nerves. She needs to learn how to be tactful and and speak purposefully without coming across as an abrasive loudmouth.

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Why?

So you get butterflies on your stomach?

But go online should be to seek truth pursue excellence

Is she speaking the truth or not should be the only goal you have. Not getting into your feelings not getting the weather she's tactful or not. That's what the last said about Trump and you see how much kicking ass he's doing

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She is bat sh-t crazy. She got popular because she was a "strong black conservative woman" who wasn't afraid to speak her mind. Once she got a bunch of fame and notoriety, she dove into the celeb BS that only the uneducated care about. Now she's doing a complete 180 on Trump simply because she hates Jews. She's a lunatic and it wouldn't surprise me one bit to hear that some rich Dem donor gave her a bunch of money to do a complete 180 and create divide within the Republican Party. I mean imagine grifting for a country like Iran.

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Being highly critical of Israel =/= hating Jews

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In her case it is one in the same.

She is highly critical of Israel because she is an antisemite.

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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I could see it...

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I'll tell you though...After some incidents this past year, the idea of calling a women 'trans' because she's not objectively pretty or has some manly features, it should really make anyone who has young daughters be concerned about the same happening.

I couldn't imagine if someone questioned my daughters gender on social media. For those that don't have daughters its often a an easy punchline though

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sorta related... in real life- most the "trans" kids in schools are less attractive girls pretending to be boys as a shield ..

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David_Puddy said:

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Daddy said:

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Ag_0112358132134 said:

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I think Candace Owens is hot and I would for sure do her. I also agree with her politics generally. But in spite of those things, she still gets on my nerves. She needs to learn how to be tactful and and speak purposefully without coming across as an abrasive loudmouth.

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Why?

So you get butterflies on your stomach?

But go online should be to seek truth pursue excellence

Is she speaking the truth or not should be the only goal you have. Not getting into your feelings not getting the weather she's tactful or not. That's what the last said about Trump and you see how much kicking ass he's doing

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She is bat sh-t crazy. She got popular because she was a "strong black conservative woman" who wasn't afraid to speak her mind. Once she got a bunch of fame and notoriety, she dove into the celeb BS that only the uneducated care about. Now she's doing a complete 180 on Trump simply because she hates Jews. She's a lunatic and it wouldn't surprise me one bit to hear that some rich Dem donor gave her a bunch of money to do a complete 180 and create divide within the Republican Party. I mean imagine grifting for a country like Iran.

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Being highly critical of Israel =/= hating Jews

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In her case it is one in the same.

She is highly critical of Israel because she is an antisemite.

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Thanks for responding before I got a chance to. This.....100%

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Candace Owens is one of the most annoying and counter productive "conservatives" anywhere in our society.

She is like Crocket on the dem side. B-A-D

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Yep, except she is quite a bit smarter than Crockett and doesn't ghetto pander to her audience. She is every bit as annoying though.

Candace just needs to show Macron who's in charge

LOL

Candace Owens has been screeching about dual citizenship for years. Turns out she’s a dual citizen. https://t.co/1uAxlp8TbZ

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) July 24, 2025

Not a grifter though!

I wish I could be a fly on the wall to get an idea of what this guy must be thinking. Dude is worth over $200 MILLION. They have FOUR kids together. And this is what she is devoting so much time and energy into.



Do we think he is supporting all of controversial claims and rants, and all of the attention that goes with it...or do we think he wishes she would just settle down and be a loving and devoted mother, and wife, without all of the nonstop drama?

Goodness, I bet she is a nightmare to be married to. I hope not, for his sake, and the sake of the children.

for those wondering who has to prove what, the burden is on Macron here.

she has to prove that the statements were false. Owens does not have to prove they were true.

Macron also has to show Owens actually knew it was was false or recklessly disregarded whether it was false, (knew there was a high probability that it was false but consciously chose to disregard that risk)

Macron must also prove it was defamatory, meaning it would "expose the plaintiff to public contempt, aversion, ridicule or disgrace." I thought being trans was cool and hip. what changed?

The one thing I'll concede as to Candace is that she is not physically unattractive, and something, something is undefeated.

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I wish I could be a fly on the wall to get an idea of what this guy must be thinking. Dude is worth over $200 MILLION. They have FOUR kids together. And this is what she is devoting so much time and energy into.



Do we think he is supporting all of controversial claims and rants, and all of the attention that goes with it...or do we think he wishes she would just settle down and be a loving and devoted mother, and wife, without all of the nonstop drama?

Goodness, I bet she is a nightmare to be married to. I hope not, for his sake, and the sake of the children.

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Guarantee that he has one, if not more, side pieces and this will end in divorce.

Given that this is Candace Owens, I could entertain doubts.

BMX Bandit said:

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for those wondering who has to prove what, the burden is on Macron here.

she has to prove that the statements were false. Owens does not have to prove they were true.

Macron also has to show Owens actually knew it was was false or recklessly disregarded whether it was false, (knew there was a high probability that it was false but consciously chose to disregard that risk)

Macron must also prove it was defamatory, meaning it would "expose the plaintiff to public contempt, aversion, ridicule or disgrace." I thought being trans was cool and hip. what changed?

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The 1st 2 elements should be easy. DNA test and Macron had children unless Candace wants to KBJ it up

What's meant by "public"? Just a majority of the population, 10%, 30%, 90%, etc?

BTW the Macrons are represented by Dominion's attorneys.

public meaning "not private."

it does not mean ridicule, etc. by "the" public

I don’t know who needs to hear this, but if you have to file a lawsuit in a foreign country to prove to the world that you are a woman, it is because you most certainly are not one.

— Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) July 25, 2025

Some good news for Candace's chances!

It's apparent the people defending @RealCandaceO & thinking she will easily win the libel suit by @EmmanuelMacron have not read the entire complaint. Owens told some of the dumbest, obvious lies one can tell. She has 0% chance of winning in court.

— Robert Barnes (@barnes_law) July 25, 2025

LOL, exactly.

Here is a piece about the suit (another was filed against the author Owens is just cribbing notes from).

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Poussard presents several pieces of documentary and photographic evidence in support of his claim that Brigitte Macron is transgender (specifically, that she was born male as Jean-Michel Trogneux, her brother's name, and later assumed a female identity). Poussard points to Brigitte Macron's physical appearance, such as broad shoulders, slim hips, and certain mannerisms (e.g., how she sits or walks), as indicators that she was born male. But it is the photographic evidence and the lack of photographic evidence that seals the case. Poussard shows that there are no accessible photos of a young Brigitte, with former schools refusing to release images and town halls reluctant to share birth certificates. Poussard would be a fool to make this claim if "Brigitte" could produce the photos from all of her school yearbooks, photos of her pregnant, photos of her playing with her alleged children. The Macrons have steadfastly refused to release what would be a powerful refutation and a financial death sentence for Poussard.

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Brigitte Macron filed a defamation lawsuit in France in early 2022 against journalist Natacha Rey and Xavier Poussard, the editor of the far-right publication Faits et Documents, over articles and investigations they published claiming that she was born male (as Jean-Michel Trogneux, her brother's name) and had stolen another person's identity. In September 2023, a lower court in Lisieux convicted Rey and Roy (Poussard's direct involvement in the trial is noted in some reports as co-accused or source), ordering them to pay 8,000 in damages to Brigitte Macron and 5,000 to her brother. However, on July 10, 2025, the Caen Court of Appeal overturned the conviction, acquitting Rey (and by extension clearing related claims involving Poussard), ruling the allegations did not constitute defamation.

I encourage you to watch Candace Owens interview Xavier Poussard. It is free, but is not posted on YouTube because the censors don't want you to hear the evidence and make up your own mind. I found Mr. Poussard very compelling.
https://candaceowens.com/video/becoming-brigitte-candace-owens-x-xavier-poussard-ep-6

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ruling the allegations did not constitute defamation.

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Because the French appeals court ruled the defendants made a mistake in good faith. Dine out there claim Macron was proved to be a man because of that appeals court case. That's not what happened.

Which seems to be less burdensome than the malice standard Macron will have to show here.

Owen's lawyers will also likely argue the speech was hyperbole, exaggerated political speech that no reasonable person would conclude were truly statements of fact,

I'm not sure what the court actually ruled wrt Rey (I saw 'not defamation', but not sure where to find the actual appellate ruling), but the website etc. is still up for the book/author, Regardless, "Mrs." Macron seems mainly annoyed that whenever she travels foreign leaders have all heard the rumor now. The easiest way to put the rumor to bed would be to do what big mike did, and put out childhood photo's with her brother etc., not file more lawsuits for youtube videos speculating about it.

I don't know, had dismissed this when it was just Candace Owens of course, and still don't really care, just find it a bit amusing given how many are talking about it now, thanks to the Streisand Effect this lawsuit has had. And in any case it's pretty disgusting for a 39 year old to 'hook up' with a 15 year old.

Candace Owens drops her NEW MACRON THEORY: the REAL Brigitte Trogneux died & her deathbed wish was to give her identity to her brother the FAKE Brigitte Macron.

CANDACE'S EVIDENCE: "There's no evidence that Brigitte Trogneux died. There' no evidence of that. But that's what it… pic.twitter.com/fkO1NfiDwl

— Nathan Livingstone (MilkBarTV) (@TheMilkBarTV) July 30, 2025

Alex Jones thinks Candace Owens is crazy…

What a fall for her.

First rule of C-Owens: her objective is to get people to pay attention to her latest statement.

But again, the Macrons have all of the ability/evidence to make this all go away as absurd…unless they don't.

David_Puddy said:

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Daddy said:

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Ag_0112358132134 said:

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I think Candace Owens is hot and I would for sure do her. I also agree with her politics generally. But in spite of those things, she still gets on my nerves. She needs to learn how to be tactful and and speak purposefully without coming across as an abrasive loudmouth.

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Why?

So you get butterflies on your stomach?

But go online should be to seek truth pursue excellence

Is she speaking the truth or not should be the only goal you have. Not getting into your feelings not getting the weather she's tactful or not. That's what the last said about Trump and you see how much kicking ass he's doing

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She is bat sh-t crazy. She got popular because she was a "strong black conservative woman" who wasn't afraid to speak her mind. Once she got a bunch of fame and notoriety, she dove into the celeb BS that only the uneducated care about. Now she's doing a complete 180 on Trump simply because she hates Jews. She's a lunatic and it wouldn't surprise me one bit to hear that some rich Dem donor gave her a bunch of money to do a complete 180 and create divide within the Republican Party. I mean imagine grifting for a country like Iran.

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What has she been wrong about? And not just opinions you don't like. What has she been factually wrong about.

She's made a pretty good case about the macrons. Even if candace is wrong about the trans thing, the backstory about their relationship is weird and groomerish. The way the macrones have handled it, is very suspicious. In a world where almost every european leader protects pedophiles, i'm inclined to go with candace on this one.

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First rule of C-Owens: her objective is to get people to pay attention to her latest statement.

But again, the Macrons have all of the ability/evidence to make this all go away as absurd…unless they don't.

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Seems they don't want it to "go away" as they filed the lawsuit! Lol

You think they filed knowing she's really Ladyboy Macron?

I dont know if "even if she is wrong..." will work here.

She went all in. If proven wrong, it might be a career ending moment. She will be ok either way after cashing out at DW, and marrying a rich dude.

I think Candace was demanding a blood test.

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nortex97 said:

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First rule of C-Owens: her objective is to get people to pay attention to her latest statement.

But again, the Macrons have all of the ability/evidence to make this all go away as absurd…unless they don't.

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Seems they don't want it to "go away" as they filed the lawsuit! Lol

You think they filed knowing she's really Ladyboy Macron?

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They filed in delaware court. Remember the hunter biden laptop, where he's bragging about how much influence they have over judges in delaware? So anything could happen.

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I dont know if "even if she is wrong..." will work here.

She went all in. If proven wrong, it might be a career ending moment. She will be ok either way after cashing out at DW, and marrying a rich dude.

I think Candace was demanding a blood test.

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Yeah, she put all her chips on the table on this one.

But if I had to bet, I would bet she's right. Everything about the macrones is creepy.