Karmelo Anthony murder trial

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aggiehawg
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Hope so. I'll take your word for it. But since there will be a virtual blackout on the proceedings, will be difficult to tell.
MsDoubleD81
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Bump because this trial starts June 1.
Slicer97
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Shame they can't send Karmelo to the chair. That's what his actions earned him.
Fightin_Aggie
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91AggieLawyer said:

aggiehawg said:

And you know such a gag order will not be enforced fairly.

Don't like that decision at all. Now, if there are still some witnesses who will be called who are minors, turn the cameras off during their testimony. Other than that? Allow one pool feed from the courtroom and audio for a press room if do not want the press in the gallery.

We have figured out how to do this since the Sam Shepard case decades and decades ago. Frankly, I was dismayed the court even cited that case. Was really reaching with that one.


Been in front of this judge. He isn't going to be intimidated by defense group hoodlums trying to hijack the media. Absent mistakes, I think he'll try to enforce it fairly.


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samurai_science
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Slicer97 said:

Shame they can't send Karmelo to the chair. That's what his actions earned him.

and his whole bloodline
FriscoKid
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Kid made a really bad decision and I still remember his brother and his mom talking about it with the media. He probably won't get the DP, but he should. All athletic events in MS and HS involve metal detector and purse screening now because of this dude. A year before my kid was winning an FFL title on that same football field. Get that **** out of Frisco.
Gilligan
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Life w/o parole or DP. His victim didn't get another chance at life.
ts5641
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Fightin_Aggie said:

91AggieLawyer said:

aggiehawg said:

And you know such a gag order will not be enforced fairly.

Don't like that decision at all. Now, if there are still some witnesses who will be called who are minors, turn the cameras off during their testimony. Other than that? Allow one pool feed from the courtroom and audio for a press room if do not want the press in the gallery.

We have figured out how to do this since the Sam Shepard case decades and decades ago. Frankly, I was dismayed the court even cited that case. Was really reaching with that one.


Been in front of this judge. He isn't going to be intimidated by defense group hoodlums trying to hijack the media. Absent mistakes, I think he'll try to enforce it fairly.


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He's an outstanding judge from a family of lawyers and judges. He will not be the least bit intimidated. He's signed many a search warrant for me and he and his family are pro police, as much as you can be as a judge. But he's about fairness and has a crap ton of experience. Perfect judge for this.
BMX Bandit
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he is charged with murder (not capital murder), which does not carry death penalty or life without parole as a punishment.

Ellis Wyatt
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Too bad the death penalty is not on the table. This is one piece of human refuse that lots of people would delight in seeing put down.
A Net Full of Jello
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I'm predicting he'll get sentenced to no more than 20 years. He'll serve 12 or so. Then he will get out and end up a leech on society and a frequent flyer in the jail because he will want an opulent lifestyle that cannot be accomplished legally with his record.
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A Net Full of Jello said:

I'm predicting he'll get sentenced to no more than 20 years. He'll serve 12 or so. Then he will get out and end up a leech on society and a frequent flyer in the jail because he will want an opulent lifestyle that cannot be accomplished legally with his record.


You can book it. 20 is the max he's getting. Life in prison is what should happen, but in today's world it won't
Rapier108
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A Net Full of Jello said:

I'm predicting he'll get sentenced to no more than 20 years. He'll serve 12 or so. Then he will get out and end up a leech on society and a frequent flyer in the jail because he will want an opulent lifestyle that cannot be accomplished legally with his record.

Will all depend on the jury, and no doubt the defense will do their best to stack it with as many blacks as possible since the prosecution can't strike someone simply for being black.
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MsDoubleD81
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When does jury selection start?
Rapier108
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MsDoubleD81 said:

When does jury selection start?

Monday unless something changes last minute.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
BadMoonRisin
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Bump. This kicks off tomorrow.

I hope justice will be served for Austin Metcalf.
i'm sorry i dont laugh at the right times.
ktownag08
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Wonder how much this will be in the media or if it'll just be downplayed by MSM.
Rapier108
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ktownag08 said:

Wonder how much this will be in the media or if it'll just be downplayed by MSM.

The defense will play Anthony up as the victim and Austin up as the actual perp, likely the entire play from the defense was that Austin said a racial slur. This is what the media will run with.

All they need is 1 person on the jury to believe the defense and its a hung jury, or a conviction on some minor charge compared to murder. The defense will do everything it can to ensure the jury had as many blacks on it as possible for this very reason.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
AgBQ-00
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that is the story de jour on this one...he acted in self defense because they told him to move
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Seven Costanza
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How long would one expect this trial to last?
MsDoubleD81
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I wish one of the well-known youtubers would pick it up.
Gaeilge
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Seven Costanza said:

How long would one expect this trial to last?


2wks minimum. Jury deliberations, God knows.
The Ex Officio Director
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Surprised the family hasn't started another gofundme yet.
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Mort Rainey said:

A Net Full of Jello said:

I'm predicting he'll get sentenced to no more than 20 years. He'll serve 12 or so. Then he will get out and end up a leech on society and a frequent flyer in the jail because he will want an opulent lifestyle that cannot be accomplished legally with his record.


You can book it. 20 is the max he's getting. Life in prison is what should happen, but in today's world it won't

Still. He will have to make it a number of years in the Prison system. A lifer may just decide his sentence wasn't enough.
ts5641
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Sarah J Fields is a conservative journalist who is going to be in the courtroom. She's posting a lot about it. You can follow her on X and Facebook.
Rapier108
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AgBQ-00 said:

that is the story de jour on this one...he acted in self defense because they told him to move

Which doesn't come anywhere close to the legal requirement for a self defense claim in Texas.

Even if Austin shoved him or touched him in some other way; it still doesn't.

The defense is counting on idiots on the jury thinking that under Texas law, you can kill someone simply because you "think" they might be a threat.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
ts5641
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Rapier108 said:

ktownag08 said:

Wonder how much this will be in the media or if it'll just be downplayed by MSM.

The defense will play Anthony up as the victim and Austin up as the actual perp, likely the entire play from the defense was that Austin said a racial slur. This is what the media will run with.

All they need is 1 person on the jury to believe the defense and its a hung jury, or a conviction on some minor charge compared to murder. The defense will do everything it can to ensure the jury had as many blacks on it as possible for this very reason.

This is the exact strategy. They're going to 100% make this about race. They're going to get the natives restless and protesting all over the place. They'll be threatening to dox jurors and kill them just like in the Chauvin trial.
All they need are one or two blacks on the jury and they'll never get a conviction. If there isn't a black on the jury it'll get thrown out. Or just one dip**** white do-gooder will do the job as well.
I just don't see a conviction out of this.
AgBQ-00
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I am thinking that is the reason the judge has put a gag order and media blackout on the trial. Hopefully this helps actual justice be done.
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AgBQ-00
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That is true, but if you've seen the social media of the Karmello crowd, they've been saying self defense since before Austin was taken out of the stands. They purposefully ignore anything else.
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We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
Im Gipper
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All they need are one or two blacks on the jury and they'll never get a conviction. If there isn't a black on the jury it'll get thrown out. Or just one dip**** white do-gooder will do the job as well.
I just don't see a conviction out of this.

I can close to guarantee you "beyond a reasonable doubt" a conviction here will never ever be thrown out because there were not black people on the jury.

Obviously, before the evidence is seen no one can say for sure, but I think a conviction is close to certain here.

I'm Gipper
MsDoubleD81
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Thanks. Following her now.
ts5641
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Im Gipper said:

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All they need are one or two blacks on the jury and they'll never get a conviction. If there isn't a black on the jury it'll get thrown out. Or just one dip**** white do-gooder will do the job as well.
I just don't see a conviction out of this.

I can close to guarantee you "beyond a reasonable doubt" a conviction here will never ever be thrown out because there were not black people on the jury.

Obviously, before the evidence is seen no one can say for sure, but I think a conviction is close to certain here.

I hope you're right but look at the Chauvin trial. He literally didn't kill Floyd. He was doing an approved restraint that he was trained to do. The medical examiner's report showed Floyd didn't die from the knee on the neck. It literally wasn't a murder and he's been put away for life because jurors couldn't stand up to the threats and pressure from the left.
To your point, based on facts then yes I would completely agree that dip**** gets convicted. Unfortunately that's not how human beings operate though.
Im Gipper
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Sorry, but "look at a completely different scenario in a completely different place" isn't really an argument for why Anthony will not be convicted.

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normalhorn
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My guess - Murder / Not Guilty. Court will allow for Manslaughter to be tacked on to charges. Manslaughter/ Guilty. Considering his age at the time, "time served" in house arrest (which reportedly has been violated multiple times) and good behavior (laughing in advance), he'll get 8 years, an end up serving about 4.

Anyone stating self defense is well, black. And ignorant or glaringly racist. But, race will determine 50% of this case

The justice system in this country is borked.
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