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I've been watching recaps of the questioning, reading some of the transcripts. It makes me question the judgement of the defense team for allowing this go anywhere near a trial. Their best witness even testified that Karmelo was the instigator and was in the wrong.

It also puts in perspective what a sad state our youth are in. He really believes if he went into the tent, provoked a response, and killed someone it would be called self-defense.

He'll have fun time in prison. He's 5'7" 135 lbs.

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He's grown since then. He's about 6'1" to 6'2" now.

ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

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kb2001 said:

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I've been watching recaps of the questioning, reading some of the transcripts. It makes me question the judgement of the defense team for allowing this go anywhere near a trial. Their best witness even testified that Karmelo was the instigator and was in the wrong.

It also puts in perspective what a sad state our youth are in. He really believes if he went into the tent, provoked a response, and killed someone it would be called self-defense.

He'll have fun time in prison. He's 5'7" 135 lbs.

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his parents were too busy milking the cash cow. Plead and the crowdfunding stops. At one point or another, the defendant started to love the smell of his own (and da culcha's) farts. He probably would have gotten something like 20-25 if he pled out.

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Any prosecutor that would have offered a plea on this case should be run out of town on a rail.

https://www.youtube.com/live/iNnHJkIsVQE?si=QFQTEdKnie7twSdb

CourtTV stream. You can scroll back to see announcement. These people are ****ing loons.

Once again - no lie, it's 5-99 years.

Keep in mind jurors may of may not know about when parole is possible. I know the jury I was on did not know for sure. So we gave him 99 years.

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He probably would have gotten something like 20-25 if he pled out.

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LOL. No way in hell they would've ever given that deal with the evidence they had here.


And the Collin County District attorney would've been out of the job as soon as the next election popped up.

kb2001 said:

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I've been watching recaps of the questioning, reading some of the transcripts. It makes me question the judgement of the defense team for allowing this go anywhere near a trial. Their best witness even testified that Karmelo was the instigator and was in the wrong.

It also puts in perspective what a sad state our youth are in. He really believes if he went into the tent, provoked a response, and killed someone it would be called self-defense.

He'll have fun time in prison. He's 5'7" 135 lbs.

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I have seen photos of him from some camp where he got measured at 6ft. I read he weighed 185

The picture that looked like it was taken at a 7 on 7 tourney in front of a height board was 6' or 6'1

So my understanding is in Texas there's no such real thing as victim impact statements. The surviving family can be called as witnesses under oath in the penalty phase and can be asked questions but what they are allowed to say is pretty limited.

After the sentence is given there is an opportunity for victim allocution where they can say what they want.

Ya'll have to watch that Court TV stream. The two black idiots just keep saying WOW over and over again after the guilty announcement,.

Pylon Cam said:

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All white jury finds him not guilty…shocking. So many white people have killed black folks with even less justification than Karmelo had and were let off the hook for it. More and more I'm beginning to hate our ****hole of a state, which is sad as I used to be proud of being a Texan.

If my family and friends weren't all here, I'd leave.

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Curious what did you expect with the evidence ? And please feel free to show examples (and lets stick to post civil rights era) of whites with less that got off ?

Oh, need help packing up ?

Z3phyr said:

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The picture that looked like it was taken at a 7 on 7 tourney in front of a height board was 6' or 6'1

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But how long ago was that?

Am I the only one seeing black people arguing with black people in the parking lot in McKinney right now? It's all civil…but it seems to be pretty passionate, civil arguing going on…

Not to be Debbie Downer, but imagine this trial taking place in CA, NY, or WA. Or possibly even Houston or Austin. Even if no racist black jurors, I would not like the chances in those places given the over-abundance of *****ded white liberals.

ErnestEndeavor said:

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So my understanding is in Texas there's no such real thing as victim impact statements. The surviving family can be called as witnesses under oath in the penalty phase and can be asked questions but what they are allowed to say is pretty limited.

After the sentence is given there is an opportunity for victim allocution where they can say what they want.

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Wrong. Look up the Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Peña murder case.

Thanks.

"all white" ? Hey Troll, No blacks <> all white

Pylon Cam said:

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All white jury finds him not guilty…shocking. So many white people have killed black folks with even less justification than Karmelo had and were let off the hook for it. More and more I'm beginning to hate our ****hole of a state, which is sad as I used to be proud of being a Texan.

If my family and friends weren't all here, I'd leave.

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I starred this not because I agree, but because it has to be one of the top 10 dumbest trolls in the history of TexAgs. Kudos.

CourtTV legal analyst says the judge owed it to "the community" to have this televised so they could have faith in the system.

A Net Full of Jello said:

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kb2001 said:

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I've been watching recaps of the questioning, reading some of the transcripts. It makes me question the judgement of the defense team for allowing this go anywhere near a trial. Their best witness even testified that Karmelo was the instigator and was in the wrong.

It also puts in perspective what a sad state our youth are in. He really believes if he went into the tent, provoked a response, and killed someone it would be called self-defense.

He'll have fun time in prison. He's 5'7" 135 lbs.

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I don't believe he is really 5'7" nor only 135, but if he does weigh that little amount, he went on a major crash diet after his arrest to try to look smaller in an effort to sway the jury that he really had a reason to fear for his life against big bad 6'7" 275 pound Austin Metcalf

Edit to add that at his arrest, he was 5'9" and 157.

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He is too light to break the tape at meets. That is what the knife was for.

Pylon Cam said:

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All white jury finds him not guilty…shocking. So many white people have killed black folks with even less justification than Karmelo had and were let off the hook for it. More and more I'm beginning to hate our ****hole of a state, which is sad as I used to be proud of being a Texan.

If my family and friends weren't all here, I'd leave.

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This should be enshrined as the worst post in TexAgs history.

And don't let the doorknob hit you on the way out.

Teslag said:

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CourtTV legal analyst says the judge owed it to "the community" to have this televised so they could have faith in the system.

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I'll agree with them there. I think this should have been televised but with so many young people testifying I can see why he chose not to allow cameras.

Pylon Cam said:

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All white jury finds him not guilty…shocking. So many white people have killed black folks with even less justification than Karmelo had and were let off the hook for it. More and more I'm beginning to hate our ****hole of a state, which is sad as I used to be proud of being a Texan.

If my family and friends weren't all here, I'd leave.

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Racist posters will be racists.

CourtTV black lady analyst..

"Dis is gonna be a problem. The community will not stand for this"

Pylon Cam said:

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All white jury finds him not guilty…shocking. So many white people have killed black folks with even less justification than Karmelo had and were let off the hook for it. More and more I'm beginning to hate our ****hole of a state, which is sad as I used to be proud of being a Texan.

If my family and friends weren't all here, I'd leave.

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Teslag said:

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CourtTV black lady analyst..

"Dis is gonna be a problem. The community will not stand for this"

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Well, ma'am, for 60 years you've been asking to be judged solely by the content of your character.

This is what it looks like.

maverick2076 said:

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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

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kb2001 said:

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I've been watching recaps of the questioning, reading some of the transcripts. It makes me question the judgement of the defense team for allowing this go anywhere near a trial. Their best witness even testified that Karmelo was the instigator and was in the wrong.

It also puts in perspective what a sad state our youth are in. He really believes if he went into the tent, provoked a response, and killed someone it would be called self-defense.

He'll have fun time in prison. He's 5'7" 135 lbs.

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his parents were too busy milking the cash cow. Plead and the crowdfunding stops. At one point or another, the defendant started to love the smell of his own (and da culcha's) farts. He probably would have gotten something like 20-25 if he pled out.

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Any prosecutor that would have offered a plea on this case should be run out of town on a rail.

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I can guarantee you they offered a plea -- and it was likely in the 20-25 range asserted here. It might have been 40. The family thought they could bluff their way to an acquittal or at least a hung jury.

You NEVER know what will happen at trial. I've seen trials turn completely on ONE sentence in a CLOSING argument. My firm years ago tried a case on the defense side (civil) where the only reason we went to trial other than settlement is the plaintiff wanted far more than what we were willing to pay. We knew we'd lose, but figured the jury would come back with less than the P's offer. The attorney goes through the case and does an "oh, by the way..." comment in closing (I can't remember the details now, other than that -- broadly speaking) and someone in the jury picked up on it. Jury verdict: take nothing for the defense.

My vague recollection is this was a 6 figure case where we were willing to go something like $125k and were like 40K apart prior to trial. They rolled the dice and lost BIG. True, this was civil, but similar things have happened in criminal cases.

I seriously doubt there is any DA in Texas that doesn't offer SOME form of plea in every case.

Teslag said:

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Ya'll have to watch that Court TV stream. The two black idiots just keep saying WOW over and over again after the guilty announcement,.

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Cody Thomas has been pretty neutral during the trial, sharing what he viewed as wins and missed opportunities by both sides. He must hate working with these morons.

Promoting violence is a violation of the rules of this site.

Pylon Cam said:

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All white jury finds him not guilty…shocking. So many white people have killed black folks with even less justification than Karmelo had and were let off the hook for it. More and more I'm beginning to hate our ****hole of a state, which is sad as I used to be proud of being a Texan.

If my family and friends weren't all here, I'd leave.

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You've been living under a rock for at least three decades. This data point of the premeditated murder without remorse of Austin Metcalf by Karmelo Anthony isn't an outlier, it's in the fat end of a power law distribution of violence committed by black males.

Black folks, as you refer to them, have been breeding generations of boys and men that are hyper-violent and have no appreciation for the value of human life, neither the lives of other blacks, whites, or the scattering of children birthed by multiple women building a portfolioof welfare entitlements on which to live.

This verdict is a rare bit of sanity in an insane world where everyone from you to CourtTV is making excuses for a murderer.

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Proverbs 24:24Whoever says to the guilty, "You are innocent," will be cursed by peoples and denounced by nations.

25But it will go well with those who convict the guilty, and rich blessing will come on them.

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MattAg84 said:

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Do defense attorneys "prepare" their clients facing long prison sentences in any way? Obviously they are there to help their client win, but do they coach them on what to do if found guilty and what happens next when facing decades behind bars?

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The movie Get Hard starring Will Ferrell and Kevin Hart called and wants their plot back.

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Big Stan did it better

Dumb CourtTV black lady seems to think this is reversed on appeal easily because of the no blacks on the jury. Welcome to Texas *****. He's going away and staying away.

FireAg said:

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Am I the only one seeing black people arguing with black people in the parking lot in McKinney right now? It's all civil…but it seems to be pretty passionate, civil arguing going on…

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They're arguing with everyone.

What on earth could be the people on KA's side be their arguement? What are they pissed about? They think he should have just walked? Insane.

Just like OJ.

Yes, they think he should have just simply walked.

Whether or not he's guilty has nothing to do with it. Their entire concern is that he's black.

That's it, that's all.

They do not possess the capacity to think beyond that.

Teslag said:

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https://www.youtube.com/live/iNnHJkIsVQE?si=QFQTEdKnie7twSdb

CourtTV stream. You can scroll back to see announcement. These people are ****ing loons.

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45:25 to be exact. These people are insane.

Teslag said:

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Dumb CourtTV black lady seems to think this is reversed on appeal easily because of the no blacks on the jury. Welcome to Texas *****. He's going away and staying away.

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So facts don't matter with her?