DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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9:04a, 7/18/25
Ship says lawsuit incoming....

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In reply to Im Gipper • 9:05a, 7/18/25
No worries. the bet was just for fun.

Let's sit back and watch the mayhem.
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In reply to No Spin Ag • 9:07a, 7/18/25
No Spin Ag said:
Krombopulos Michael said:
October 2025


BTW - I am not sure if NYC Times story constitutes the bombshell for the weekend. But combined with the proposed lawsuit and a Presidential order to the AG to release the grand jury testimony might just be it.

Let's wait until Monday to see how this plays out.


This is something, I guess, but this doesn't sound like what so many have been demanding be released for over half a decade now.


I didn't think the prosecution could unilaterally release grand jury testimony, and that a judge could only release it in very limited circumstances.
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In reply to Ervin Burrell • 9:07a, 7/18/25
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bobbranco said:
Trump probably thought releasing all the sordid Epstein details would impinge on his agenda. Does anyone think a President in their right mind wants to be remembered as the guy who released information about a blackmailing child rapist and all the other dirty deeds of his cabal of degenerates and spies?

I suspect there are plenty of high profile people named that are innocent on the Epstein ledger. Given that the disgusting and salacious topic, crimes can be spun from the so called evidence into a complete web of lies to only ruin innocent peoples lives. Same as the left did with lawfare.

Trump is correct in this, call Epstein a POS, and let the sick and disgusting topic die. And Maxwell can go to hell.


Wow. We've gone full circle from "release everything and drain the swamp!" to "well akshualllllyyyyy it might rustle some feathers if child rapists were exposed". All at the behest of Dear Leader. Unreal.


Wait a week, this thread will fall off the front page entirely and it'll be back to "Yeah I know that was all a really bad look, but let's talk about how much winning is going on!" If he hadnt been digging his own hole deeper it would already be gone.

I have no faith in either base holding any of them accountable anymore. As long as "we" keep the power from "the other guys", we allow politicians and the ultra rich to solidify their influence and become untouchable. Dividing us is only to their benefit.
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In reply to Juan Lee Pettimore • 9:10a, 7/18/25
Juan Lee Pettimore said:
I am assuming the letter is real, but the reference to "secrets" could be literally anything. It doesn't automatically have to mean "child diddling", good Lord.


Yet when the "other team" talks about pizza toppings, it's proof positive that all Dems drink baby blood and diddle infants in backrooms at restaurants. Politics is incredible.
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In reply to Ervin Burrell • 9:12a, 7/18/25
yeah but "they" are evil and "we" are righteous.
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In reply to P.H. Dexippus • 9:13a, 7/18/25
P.H. Dexippus said:
No Spin Ag said:
Krombopulos Michael said:
October 2025


BTW - I am not sure if NYC Times story constitutes the bombshell for the weekend. But combined with the proposed lawsuit and a Presidential order to the AG to release the grand jury testimony might just be it.

Let's wait until Monday to see how this plays out.


This is something, I guess, but this doesn't sound like what so many have been demanding be released for over half a decade now.


I didn't think the prosecution could unilaterally release grand jury testimony, and that a judge could only release it in very limited circumstances.

I have no clue, in all honesty. All I know is that what will be released will not be anywhere near what is actually being called for.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to Krombopulos Michael • 9:13a, 7/18/25
Krombopulos Michael said:

Not Trump level, but not bad either.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to Krombopulos Michael • 9:14a, 7/18/25
Krombopulos Michael said:

Cue the "Elon is just pissed" or "how would he know" or "Elon needs to shut up and stay in his lane" from the same folks who were creaming themselves that he was practically taking over the government a few months back.
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In reply to Ervin Burrell • 9:16a, 7/18/25
Or we could just be honest and admit the "hoax" claim is not a claim that Epstein did not traffic and rape minors.

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In reply to Ervin Burrell • 9:16a, 7/18/25
Fair point.

But I think there is a large faction on right who value principles over Trump loyalty. Much less of that on the left. They stuck with Biden "sharp as a tack" until he stepped aside.

Trump is being very sloppy here. The good news is his only way out may ultimately be to deflect to "Esptein ties to intel" and away from "Esptein client list, Bday letters". We can only hope.
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In reply to Ervin Burrell • 9:17a, 7/18/25
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Krombopulos Michael said:

Cue the "Elon is just pissed" or "how would he know" or "Elon needs to shut up and stay in his lane" from the same folks who were creaming themselves that he was practically taking over the government a few months back.


Funny how yall still think it's just Democrats pissed at this. Just stop. Its really old the over political support of both parties on a dead pedo
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9:22a, 7/18/25
Any telling you "I asked Grok/ChatGPT, etc." is not someone you should listen to.




Never doodled!!!!



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9:23a, 7/18/25
Reading the last few pages is like watching the poor fawning teen guy trying to get laid in the young love angst movies of the 1990's. Bunch of Trump haterz walking around sprung to the hilt just crabbing for any "got him" before they go flacid.

Evidently the Colbert news really hit a lot of them hard.

Regarding the grand jury testimony, do Bondi and the DOJ have access to the information? Can they get it? If so, then it can be released. Dems have shown repeatedly that rules regarding judicial procedure and confidentiality no longer apply when there is a political angle to be had.

Again, Dems play right into Trump's hand. They destroy the norms then look like classes assclowns when they sneak back to stand on "principle".
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9:28a, 7/18/25
A man who deeply believed in many conspiracy theories passes away and has arrived at the Pearly Gates.

He faces a shining warm light and a deep voice booms 'I AM GOD. Before entering, you may ask me anything to answer questions that your soul needs for eternal peace'.

The man immediately asks: "Who murdered Jeffrey Epstein?". And God replies "No one murdered him. It was a suicide."

The man grumbles: "I never knew the Deep State went so high".

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The above is a variation of a common joke about how there will always be a portion of a population where no amount of released information or explanation from any source is ever going to fully end a conspiracy theory. So on this Epstein thing, it ultimately won't matter how much or little information is ultimately released or not. Any released information that doesn't not align with a person's deep conspiracy conviction will simply get dismissed as a hoax or lie. The conspiracy theory will always live on.

That said, While the conspiracy theories will never die, What will eventually happen is the bulk of the population and media will eventually get bored by the topic and will move on to the next major news event or conspiracy theory. Which means no matter what this thread and related ones regardless will eventually drop off the front page of this board .
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9:35a, 7/18/25
Some of you guys have pretty poor pattern recognition skills...the Never Trumper WSJ publishes unsourced salacious story that seems as believable as all the other Never Trump stories they've published in the last 10 years; and you just gobble it up...
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In reply to Ervin Burrell • 9:36a, 7/18/25
Ervin Burrell said:
Krombopulos Michael said:

Cue the "Elon is just pissed" or "how would he know" or "Elon needs to shut up and stay in his lane" from the same folks who were creaming themselves that he was practically taking over the government a few months back.

Those folks have been noticeably quiet in all things Elon, when, as you mentioned, they couldn't talk enough about him just a couple of months ago.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to Krombopulos Michael • 9:56a, 7/18/25
Krombopulos Michael said:
No worries. the bet was just for fun.

Let's sit back and watch the mayhem.


So I took the bet on the senate flipping. You're backing out now?
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9:58a, 7/18/25
I can say I don't support Pedos. All pedos must be eradicated. Those that defending not releasing the full list well....

God sees it
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In reply to The Fall Guy • 10:03a, 7/18/25
The Fall Guy said:
I can say I don't support Pedos. All pedos must be eradicated. Those that defending not releasing the full list well....

God sees it

God going to be awfully bored then. I have not seen anyone defending not releasing a full list of clients.

I have seen people say there are bigger things to focus on, or folks who say they think there is no list, and others who question the factualness of anything produced by the FBI / DOJ regarding political opponents of the deep state.

Report back when you see folks defending pedophilia. Should be easy, the libs do it all the time.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 10:09a, 7/18/25
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
I can say I don't support Pedos. All pedos must be eradicated. Those that defending not releasing the full list well....

God sees it

God going to be awfully bored then. I have not seen anyone defending not releasing a full list of clients.

I have seen people say there are bigger things to focus on, or folks who say they think there is no list, and others who question the factualness of anything produced by the FBI / DOJ regarding political opponents of the deep state.

Report back when you see folks defending pedophilia. Should be easy, the libs do it all the time.


Saying bigger things are more important says its defending pedos. Sorry not putting children over politics is shameful. Also thanks for adding a political spin to it. Its not politics. Its principle
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In reply to aginlakeway • 10:09a, 7/18/25
Nope. We've got that bet if you want.

1 oz US mint Silver Eagle. None of those generic rounds BS.

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10:12a, 7/18/25
Just like the Dems did. Deflect and not release the names. Its shameful
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In reply to The Fall Guy • 10:13a, 7/18/25
The Fall Guy said:
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
I can say I don't support Pedos. All pedos must be eradicated. Those that defending not releasing the full list well....

God sees it

God going to be awfully bored then. I have not seen anyone defending not releasing a full list of clients.

I have seen people say there are bigger things to focus on, or folks who say they think there is no list, and others who question the factualness of anything produced by the FBI / DOJ regarding political opponents of the deep state.

Report back when you see folks defending pedophilia. Should be easy, the libs do it all the time.


Saying bigger things are more important says its defending pedos. Sorry not putting children over politics is shameful. Also thanks for adding a political spin to it. Its not politics. Its principle

So we should shut the Country down, reopen the borders to human trafficking and let Iran nuke Israel so you can look at a list of pedos?

I am quite confident that if there is direct evidence of these guys committing child abuse, particularly the rape of children, there would be prosecutions.

You have such a poor take on this its sad, shameful. You don't care about principle, you care about tabloid fodder. Its okay, many people go for that. But it makes someone just as sick as the pedo to have some sort of fetish with seeing "the evidence" of pedophilia.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 10:17a, 7/18/25
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
I can say I don't support Pedos. All pedos must be eradicated. Those that defending not releasing the full list well....

God sees it

God going to be awfully bored then. I have not seen anyone defending not releasing a full list of clients.

I have seen people say there are bigger things to focus on, or folks who say they think there is no list, and others who question the factualness of anything produced by the FBI / DOJ regarding political opponents of the deep state.

Report back when you see folks defending pedophilia. Should be easy, the libs do it all the time.


Saying bigger things are more important says its defending pedos. Sorry not putting children over politics is shameful. Also thanks for adding a political spin to it. Its not politics. Its principle

So we should shut the Country down, reopen the borders to human trafficking and let Iran nuke Israel so you can look at a list of pedos?

I am quite confident that if there is direct evidence of these guys committing child abuse, particularly the rape of children, there would be prosecutions.

You have such a poor take on this its sad, shameful. You don't care about principle, you care about tabloid fodder. Its okay, many people go for that. But it makes someone just as sick as the pedo to have some sort of fetish with seeing "the evidence" of pedophilia.


No one said to shut the country down. Lol. You really believe govt would do the right thing. Squeek...
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 10:19a, 7/18/25
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
I can say I don't support Pedos. All pedos must be eradicated. Those that defending not releasing the full list well....

God sees it

God going to be awfully bored then. I have not seen anyone defending not releasing a full list of clients.

I have seen people say there are bigger things to focus on, or folks who say they think there is no list, and others who question the factualness of anything produced by the FBI / DOJ regarding political opponents of the deep state.

Report back when you see folks defending pedophilia. Should be easy, the libs do it all the time.


Saying bigger things are more important says its defending pedos. Sorry not putting children over politics is shameful. Also thanks for adding a political spin to it. Its not politics. Its principle

So we should shut the Country down, reopen the borders to human trafficking and let Iran nuke Israel so you can look at a list of pedos?

I am quite confident that if there is direct evidence of these guys committing child abuse, particularly the rape of children, there would be prosecutions.

You have such a poor take on this it's sad, shameful. You don't care about principle, you care about tabloid fodder. Its okay, many people go for that. But it makes someone just as sick as the pedo to have some sort of fetish with seeing "the evidence" of pedophilia.


That's certainly quite the take. "Wanting to see evidence which shines light on/exposes child rapists so they can be held accountable is just as bad as ****ing children." What a warped opinion, all because you're trying to defend a guy who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
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10:19a, 7/18/25
Political foder over a woman who was prosecuted for trafficking minors and ir just stops there. Man that is rich
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In reply to Ervin Burrell • 10:20a, 7/18/25
Ervin Burrell said:
Krombopulos Michael said:

Cue the "Elon is just pissed" or "how would he know" or "Elon needs to shut up and stay in his lane" from the same folks who were creaming themselves that he was practically taking over the government a few months back.

LOL, do you get your news from Joy Reid or Joy Behar?
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In reply to The Fall Guy • 10:33a, 7/18/25
The Fall Guy said:
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
I can say I don't support Pedos. All pedos must be eradicated. Those that defending not releasing the full list well....

God sees it

God going to be awfully bored then. I have not seen anyone defending not releasing a full list of clients.

I have seen people say there are bigger things to focus on, or folks who say they think there is no list, and others who question the factualness of anything produced by the FBI / DOJ regarding political opponents of the deep state.

Report back when you see folks defending pedophilia. Should be easy, the libs do it all the time.


Saying bigger things are more important says its defending pedos. Sorry not putting children over politics is shameful. Also thanks for adding a political spin to it. Its not politics. Its principle

So we should shut the Country down, reopen the borders to human trafficking and let Iran nuke Israel so you can look at a list of pedos?

I am quite confident that if there is direct evidence of these guys committing child abuse, particularly the rape of children, there would be prosecutions.

You have such a poor take on this its sad, shameful. You don't care about principle, you care about tabloid fodder. Its okay, many people go for that. But it makes someone just as sick as the pedo to have some sort of fetish with seeing "the evidence" of pedophilia.


No one said to shut the country down. Lol. You really believe govt would do the right thing. Squeek...

When you say those saying there are more important things than Epstein are just defenders of pedophilia, you are absolutely saying that THE MOST IMPORTANT thing is Epstein, and anything contrary makes you a supporter of child diddler. That was your take, not mine.

Lets also keep in mind their is a lady sitting in prison with all the details you want. But instead your clamor for tabloid details to feed your fetish. Thats gross to me.

Epstein raped children as did Ghislaine. They likely, almost certainly, had others involved. Those others may be famou folk, rich folk, powerful folk... it certainly seems so.

I think the information should all be out there. I just also understand there are more important things to discuss at the national, global level.

You just want to keep your clamoring for your National Enquirer story and calling others defenders of pedos in the process. Shameful.
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In reply to FobTies • 10:34a, 7/18/25
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Trucker was kind of a dud last night.


I have be had a chance to watch yet, is it worth it?


Of course Clown Dave Smith acting like it was some great revelation!

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In reply to Krombopulos Michael • 10:36a, 7/18/25
Krombopulos Michael said:
Nope. We've got that bet if you want.

1 oz US mint Silver Eagle. None of those generic rounds BS.



Great ... on the 2026 flipping to Democrats.

PM or send me your info. I'll gladly do the same.
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In reply to Ervin Burrell • 10:37a, 7/18/25
Ervin Burrell said:
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
I can say I don't support Pedos. All pedos must be eradicated. Those that defending not releasing the full list well....





That's certainly quite the take. "Wanting to see evidence which shines light on/exposes child rapists so they can be held accountable is just as bad as ****ing children." What a warped opinion, all because you're trying to defend a guy who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

You really want to watch the videos? Yes. that is sick to me.

Nah, you just want to see the names so you can figure out your political spin on it.

I notice a lot of you folks are not necessary calling for justice, but are calling for exposure of names and other conspiracies.

I still have not seen one person join me in questioning where the parents and guardians are who are equally accountable for sending their children to pedo playgrounds.

I believe the original charges on Epstein actually resulted from the mother of a girl whose friend took her to Epstein without the parent's permission or knowing. If you wanted justice, you would clamor for accountability there.

But you don't. Why?
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 10:39a, 7/18/25
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
flown-the-coop said:
The Fall Guy said:
I can say I don't support Pedos. All pedos must be eradicated. Those that defending not releasing the full list well....

God sees it

God going to be awfully bored then. I have not seen anyone defending not releasing a full list of clients.

I have seen people say there are bigger things to focus on, or folks who say they think there is no list, and others who question the factualness of anything produced by the FBI / DOJ regarding political opponents of the deep state.

Report back when you see folks defending pedophilia. Should be easy, the libs do it all the time.


Saying bigger things are more important says its defending pedos. Sorry not putting children over politics is shameful. Also thanks for adding a political spin to it. Its not politics. Its principle

So we should shut the Country down, reopen the borders to human trafficking and let Iran nuke Israel so you can look at a list of pedos?

I am quite confident that if there is direct evidence of these guys committing child abuse, particularly the rape of children, there would be prosecutions.

You have such a poor take on this its sad, shameful. You don't care about principle, you care about tabloid fodder. Its okay, many people go for that. But it makes someone just as sick as the pedo to have some sort of fetish with seeing "the evidence" of pedophilia.


No one said to shut the country down. Lol. You really believe govt would do the right thing. Squeek...

When you say those saying there are more important things than Epstein are just defenders of pedophilia, you are absolutely saying that THE MOST IMPORTANT thing is Epstein, and anything contrary makes you a supporter of child diddler. That was your take, not mine.

Lets also keep in mind their is a lady sitting in prison with all the details you want. But instead your clamor for tabloid details to feed your fetish. Thats gross to me.

Epstein raped children as did Ghislaine. They likely, almost certainly, had others involved. Those others may be famou folk, rich folk, powerful folk... it certainly seems so.

I think the information should all be out there. I just also understand there are more important things to discuss at the national, global level.

You just want to keep your clamoring for your National Enquirer story and calling others defenders of pedos in the process. Shameful.


I have been quite vocal on Trump and what he has done for the Border and no problems with tariffs but keep defending people that diddle kids and traffic them. That's quite a bold hill to defend.
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