jacketman03 said:Deerdude said:
"Minor" to confirm your post.
Did Epstein have any victims that weren't minors? I know reading is hard, but I believe in you, you can do it.
Yes, some of the victims were adults.
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Yes, some of the victims were adults.
If Trump had a caddy that was 16 you could say he spent significant time with a minor. The wording is meaningless. The email mentions Trump was there but doesn't mention any bad behavior.
If you all thought the mental gymnastics were shocking before, just wait. I wouldn't be surprised that people start to rationalize it if proof comes out. TDS is real - but so is blind allegiance.
I will no longer discuss politics with you. I reject your premises and world view. I am finished trying to compromise with you.
PaulsBunions said:Aggie4Christ09 said:
Emails from Epstein saying Trump spent significant time with minor.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/us/politics/trump-epstein-emails.html
Here's the article instead of a screenshot. It looks like this is mostly correspondence between Epstein, Maxwell, and Michael Wolff. Not really anything substantive or new in the actual emails so NYT interspersed their usual out of context nonsense about Trump.
What's the odd gap after "mentioned." In the email. Meaning, after that period -- is that edited in some way---it doesn't even look like a thought fragment. Is a sentence gone?
titan said:PaulsBunions said:Aggie4Christ09 said:
Emails from Epstein saying Trump spent significant time with minor.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/us/politics/trump-epstein-emails.html
Here's the article instead of a screenshot. It looks like this is mostly correspondence between Epstein, Maxwell, and Michael Wolff. Not really anything substantive or new in the actual emails so NYT interspersed their usual out of context nonsense about Trump.
What's the odd gap after "mentioned." In the email. Meaning, after that period -- is that edited in some way---it doesn't even look like a thought fragment. Is a sentence gone?
Looks like just extra spaces between sentences. The plus the pixelation from being scanned/copied/resized. Plus they're probably just a ****ty typer on their phone.
Queso1 said:
If you all thought the mental gymnastics were shocking before, just wait. I wouldn't be surprised that people start to rationalize it if proof comes out. TDS is real - but so is blind allegiance.
Raping kids to own the libs.
Dem AZ rep being sworn in later today and is expected to provide the 218 vote for the discharge petition.
Dems released these emails now to keep pressure on potential Republican flips (yes to no) on the discharge petition.
Dems released these emails now to keep pressure on potential Republican flips (yes to no) on the discharge petition.
Ervin Burrell said:Queso1 said:
If you all thought the mental gymnastics were shocking before, just wait. I wouldn't be surprised that people start to rationalize it if proof comes out. TDS is real - but so is blind allegiance.
Raping kids to own the libs.
Back when he was a lib? What a stupid comment that made me remember why you're on ignore.
Why did Democrats cover up the name when the Estate didn't redact it in the redacted documents provided to the committee?
— Oversight Committee (@GOPoversight) November 12, 2025
It's because this victim, Virginia Giuffre, publicly said that she never witnessed wrongdoing by President Trump.
Democrats are trying to create a fake… https://t.co/vd7gw3kJl0
Yesterday on the Bulwark, they interviewed a reporter with the Miami Times Herald who has covered Epstein for a long time. In the interview, she discussed the privileges that Maxwell has received at the Bryan prison, including unsupervised and unmonitored communications to the outside. She speculated that we would start seeing leaks of information to pressure Trump to release her from prison.
Here is the interview:
Here is the interview:
Just for the rubes out there (me), this is part of the pile of evidence that the Dems had full access to from 2021-2024 when Trump was gearing up for a new Presidential run, and they DIDN'T use this VAST, OVERWHELMING amount of incriminating evidence to wipe out his campaign.
Right? Am I understanding this correctly? Biden, the FBI and the DNC all knew about Trump's guilt. But, they didn't act on it.. why? Why?
However, Orange Man Bad is back in office and it's the GOP hiding and giving cover to Trump and stonewalling the Dems from releasing all of the evidence that they had access to for years but didn't act on it?
Just making sure I understand this.
You libs will stoop as low as possible to paint a narrative.
I'm assuming this latest story came from the same braintrust that made up the one about Trump giving golden showers to russian hookers, right? Maybe pencil neck Schiff will release THAT info as well as this new revelation....I mean, surely the Dems would be transparent and lay out the clear as day crimes that Trump participated in.
Right? Am I understanding this correctly? Biden, the FBI and the DNC all knew about Trump's guilt. But, they didn't act on it.. why? Why?
However, Orange Man Bad is back in office and it's the GOP hiding and giving cover to Trump and stonewalling the Dems from releasing all of the evidence that they had access to for years but didn't act on it?
Just making sure I understand this.
You libs will stoop as low as possible to paint a narrative.
I'm assuming this latest story came from the same braintrust that made up the one about Trump giving golden showers to russian hookers, right? Maybe pencil neck Schiff will release THAT info as well as this new revelation....I mean, surely the Dems would be transparent and lay out the clear as day crimes that Trump participated in.
...take it easy on me, I'm a normal horn
normalhorn said:
Just for the rubes out there (me), this is part of the pile of evidence that the Dems had full access to from 2021-2024 when Trump was gearing up for a new Presidential run, and they DIDN'T use this VAST, OVERWHELMING amount of incriminating evidence to wipe out his campaign.
Right? Am I understanding this correctly? Biden, the FBI and the DNC all knew about Trump's guilt. But, they didn't act on it.. why? Why?
However, Orange Man Bad is back in office and it's the GOP hiding and giving cover to Trump and stonewalling the Dems from releasing all of the evidence that they had access to for years but didn't act on it?
Just making sure I understand this.
"The three separate email exchanges released on Wednesday were all from after Mr. Epstein's 2008 plea deal in Florida on state charges of soliciting prostitution, in which federal prosecutors agreed not to pursue charges. They came years after Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein had a reported falling out in the early 2000s. One was addressed to Mr. Epstein's longtime confidante Ghislaine Maxwell, while two were with the author Michael Wolff." - NYT
PaulsBunions said:normalhorn said:
Just for the rubes out there (me), this is part of the pile of evidence that the Dems had full access to from 2021-2024 when Trump was gearing up for a new Presidential run, and they DIDN'T use this VAST, OVERWHELMING amount of incriminating evidence to wipe out his campaign.
Right? Am I understanding this correctly? Biden, the FBI and the DNC all knew about Trump's guilt. But, they didn't act on it.. why? Why?
However, Orange Man Bad is back in office and it's the GOP hiding and giving cover to Trump and stonewalling the Dems from releasing all of the evidence that they had access to for years but didn't act on it?
Just making sure I understand this.
"The three separate email exchanges released on Wednesday were all from after Mr. Epstein's 2008 plea deal in Florida on state charges of soliciting prostitution, in which federal prosecutors agreed not to pursue charges. They came years after Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein had a reported falling out in the early 2000s. One was addressed to Mr. Epstein's longtime confidante Ghislaine Maxwell, while two were with the author Michael Wolff." - NYT
And???
...take it easy on me, I'm a normal horn
Of course Trump knew. Everyone knew.
What's stunning here is that Trump is falling into the coverup is worse than the crime trap. Basically everything else he's done no matter how controversial, he's just waived his hands and said "yep I'm doing that, and since I'm telling you it must not be that bad" . But on this one issue he's taken a different approach.
What's stunning here is that Trump is falling into the coverup is worse than the crime trap. Basically everything else he's done no matter how controversial, he's just waived his hands and said "yep I'm doing that, and since I'm telling you it must not be that bad" . But on this one issue he's taken a different approach.
wow, no wonder trump gets so crotchety when anyone brings epstein up, and went scorched earth demanding bondi cover it up and his supporters move on. all this after he talked a big game on the campaign trail about releasing the files.
and to think an entire internet mythos spawned about trump being the white hat in this sick pedo ring, when reality was exactly the opposite.
and to think an entire internet mythos spawned about trump being the white hat in this sick pedo ring, when reality was exactly the opposite.
Old McDonald said:
wow, no wonder trump gets so crotchety when anyone brings epstein up, and went scorched earth demanding bondi cover it up and his supporters move on. all this after he talked a big game on the campaign trail about releasing the files.
and to think an entire internet mythos spawned about trump being the white hat in this sick pedo ring, when reality was exactly the opposite.
Won't the files be released when that congresswoman is sworn in and votes with the Dems, MTG, and a few other republicans to release the files? I thought I heard that she would give them enough votes or something.
normalhorn said:
Just for the rubes out there (me), this is part of the pile of evidence that the Dems had full access to from 2021-2024 when Trump was gearing up for a new Presidential run, and they DIDN'T use this VAST, OVERWHELMING amount of incriminating evidence to wipe out his campaign.
Right? Am I understanding this correctly? Biden, the FBI and the DNC all knew about Trump's guilt. But, they didn't act on it.. why? Why?
However, Orange Man Bad is back in office and it's the GOP hiding and giving cover to Trump and stonewalling the Dems from releasing all of the evidence that they had access to for years but didn't act on it?
Just making sure I understand this.
You libs will stoop as low as possible to paint a narrative.
I'm assuming this latest story came from the same braintrust that made up the one about Trump giving golden showers to russian hookers, right? Maybe pencil neck Schiff will release THAT info as well as this new revelation....I mean, surely the Dems would be transparent and lay out the clear as day crimes that Trump participated in.
Because this is the Q thread for Dems. Any day now something devastating will be released.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
They were released to the House Oversight per a subpoena in late August, these findings were released Wednesday.
"Today, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform released records provided by the estate of Jeffrey Epstein pursuant to Chairman James Comer's (R-Ky.) subpoena issued on August 25, 2025."
https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-committee-releases-records-provided-by-the-epstein-estate-chairman-comer-provides-statement/
techno-ag said:normalhorn said:
Just for the rubes out there (me), this is part of the pile of evidence that the Dems had full access to from 2021-2024 when Trump was gearing up for a new Presidential run, and they DIDN'T use this VAST, OVERWHELMING amount of incriminating evidence to wipe out his campaign.
Right? Am I understanding this correctly? Biden, the FBI and the DNC all knew about Trump's guilt. But, they didn't act on it.. why? Why?
However, Orange Man Bad is back in office and it's the GOP hiding and giving cover to Trump and stonewalling the Dems from releasing all of the evidence that they had access to for years but didn't act on it?
Just making sure I understand this.
You libs will stoop as low as possible to paint a narrative.
I'm assuming this latest story came from the same braintrust that made up the one about Trump giving golden showers to russian hookers, right? Maybe pencil neck Schiff will release THAT info as well as this new revelation....I mean, surely the Dems would be transparent and lay out the clear as day crimes that Trump participated in.
Because this is the Q thread for Dems. Any day now something devastating will be released.
Yuuuuuuuppppp.
Before anyone accuse me of being a die hard MAGA apologist, I'll state simply that if, IF there's legitimate evidence that would hold up in court, then Trump needs to be charged in the fullest extent possible for any crimes he may have committed. But, an email ain't gonna be enough for me.
...take it easy on me, I'm a normal horn
PaulsBunions said:
They were released to the House Oversight per a subpoena in late August, these findings were released Wednesday.
"Today, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform released records provided by the estate of Jeffrey Epstein pursuant to Chairman James Comer's (R-Ky.) subpoena issued on August 25, 2025."
https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-committee-releases-records-provided-by-the-epstein-estate-chairman-comer-provides-statement/
Give me a break, pal. if these emails show some actual, legitmate culpability on Trump's behalf, they would have been released YEARS ago. And not by a House Oversight committee - by the FBI, who for years has been involved in more leaks than a Chinese dam.....
Go sell crazy somewhere else....logical people aren't buying it here.
...take it easy on me, I'm a normal horn
Queso1 said:
If you all thought the mental gymnastics were shocking before, just wait. I wouldn't be surprised that people start to rationalize it if proof comes out. TDS is real - but so is blind allegiance.
I watched the Bidenites make one sorry excuse after another for mental decline of that drooling pile of slop.
Now I get to watch some members of the Republican party butcher other conservatives (Massie) because the news could possibly damage Trump.
Release the files! The files are fake news!
The entire thing feels Orwellian and I stand by and watch as the general population chases it's own tail.
normalhorn said:PaulsBunions said:
They were released to the House Oversight per a subpoena in late August, these findings were released Wednesday.
"Today, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform released records provided by the estate of Jeffrey Epstein pursuant to Chairman James Comer's (R-Ky.) subpoena issued on August 25, 2025."
https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-committee-releases-records-provided-by-the-epstein-estate-chairman-comer-provides-statement/
Give me a break, pal. if these emails show some actual, legitmate culpability on Trump's behalf, they would have been released YEARS ago. And not by a House Oversight committee - by the FBI, who for years has been involved in more leaks than a Chinese dam.....
Go sell crazy somewhere else....logical people aren't buying it here.
Go back a few pages and you'll see I said the same thing. I'm just answering your question lol
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3548558/replies/71266838
the irony here is that the Q thread at its core was about justice for the epstein victims, but now that we know trump was involved the whole thing is a "hoax"techno-ag said:
Because this is the Q thread for Dems. Any day now something devastating will be released.
Trump removed the veil from self-proclaimed conservatives, Christians, and family value folks. They are fake. This thread proves it.
JohnClark929 said:
Trump removed the veil from self-proclaimed conservatives, Christians, and family value folks. They are fake. This thread proves it.
Bingo. It's the same coin just a different side. Trump is and has always been a trash can human being every bit as immoral as any democrat to ever exist. Bring back the Main Street Good Ol' Boys and let them run things.
This is so much BS. Virginia Giuffre was a victim of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. She cleared Trump of all wrongdoing under penalty of perjury. And in April 2025 she committed suicide. Giuffre is no longer here to defend her statements - but Democrats, through Epstein, are saying she lied under oath. Yeah so much BS, and ANY time you have Michael Wolff involved you know for certain it's crap
Q. All right. What's inaccurate about the last statement on that page?
Giuffre: "Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey's." That part is true." "He didn't partake in any" of "any sex with any of us but he flirted with me." It's true that he didn't partake in any sex with us, and but it's not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me.
Giuffre: Then the next sentence is, "He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey, 'you've got the life.'" I never said that to her.
Q. When you say, "he didn't partake in any sex with any of us," who is "us"?
Giuffre: Girls. Just
Q. How do you know who Donald Trump Trump had sex with?
Giuffre: Oh, I didn't physically see him have sex with any of the girls, so I can't say who he had sex with in his whole life or not, but I just know it wasn't with me when I was with other girls.
Q. And who were the other girls that you were with in Donald Trump's presence?
Giuffre: None. There I worked for Donald Trump, and I've met him probably a few times.
Q. When have you met him?
Giuffre: At Mar-a-Lago. My dad and him, I wouldn't say they were friends, but my dad knew him and they would talk all the time well, not all the time but when they saw each other.
Q. Have you ever been in Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's presence with one another?
Giuffre: No.
Q. What is your basis for your statement that Donald Trump is a good friend of Jeffrey's?
Giuffre: Jeffrey told me that Donald Trump is a good friend of his.
Q. But you never observed them together?
Giuffre: No, that that I can actually remember. I mean, not off the top of my head, no.
Q. When did Donald Trump flirt with you?
Giuffre: He didn't. That's what's inaccurate.
Q. Did you ever see Donald Trump at Jeffrey's home?
Giuffre: Not that I can remember.
Q. All right. What's inaccurate about the last statement on that page?
Giuffre: "Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey's." That part is true." "He didn't partake in any" of "any sex with any of us but he flirted with me." It's true that he didn't partake in any sex with us, and but it's not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me.
Giuffre: Then the next sentence is, "He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey, 'you've got the life.'" I never said that to her.
Q. When you say, "he didn't partake in any sex with any of us," who is "us"?
Giuffre: Girls. Just
Q. How do you know who Donald Trump Trump had sex with?
Giuffre: Oh, I didn't physically see him have sex with any of the girls, so I can't say who he had sex with in his whole life or not, but I just know it wasn't with me when I was with other girls.
Q. And who were the other girls that you were with in Donald Trump's presence?
Giuffre: None. There I worked for Donald Trump, and I've met him probably a few times.
Q. When have you met him?
Giuffre: At Mar-a-Lago. My dad and him, I wouldn't say they were friends, but my dad knew him and they would talk all the time well, not all the time but when they saw each other.
Q. Have you ever been in Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's presence with one another?
Giuffre: No.
Q. What is your basis for your statement that Donald Trump is a good friend of Jeffrey's?
Giuffre: Jeffrey told me that Donald Trump is a good friend of his.
Q. But you never observed them together?
Giuffre: No, that that I can actually remember. I mean, not off the top of my head, no.
Q. When did Donald Trump flirt with you?
Giuffre: He didn't. That's what's inaccurate.
Q. Did you ever see Donald Trump at Jeffrey's home?
Giuffre: Not that I can remember.
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
FWTXAg said:JohnClark929 said:
Trump removed the veil from self-proclaimed conservatives, Christians, and family value folks. They are fake. This thread proves it.
Bingo. It's the same coin just a different side. Trump is and has always been a trash can human being every bit as immoral as any democrat to ever exist. Bring back the Main Street Good Ol' Boys and let them run things.
Yup. The country is run by corrupt billionaires, on both sides, and none of them could give the slightest, single, solitary phauck about the people they represent. Which makes seeing the sheep who fawn over them both cringeworthy and hilarious at the same time. Burn it all the phauck down.
These Epstein/Maxwell emails reference Virginia Giuffre.
— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) November 12, 2025
Giuffre's testimony contradicts them:
She never saw Trump and Epstein together.
Trump never acted inappropriately towards her (no sex and no flirting).
She was never at Epstein's house with Trump. https://t.co/obTvvQbh8g pic.twitter.com/zOQRQHep7r
So the Democrat position is that Virginia Giuffre - a victim of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell - was lying under oath when she cleared Trump of wrongdoing.
— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) November 12, 2025
Giuffre can't defend her statements because she committed suicide in April 2025.
Convenient timing.
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
Ervin Burrell said:FWTXAg said:JohnClark929 said:
Trump removed the veil from self-proclaimed conservatives, Christians, and family value folks. They are fake. This thread proves it.
Bingo. It's the same coin just a different side. Trump is and has always been a trash can human being every bit as immoral as any democrat to ever exist. Bring back the Main Street Good Ol' Boys and let them run things.
Yup. The country is run by corrupt billionaires, on both sides, and none of them could give the slightest, single, solitary phauck about the people they represent. Which makes seeing the sheep who fawn over them both cringeworthy and hilarious at the same time. Burn it all the phauck down.
Texags: are you concerned, you sound concerned, blah blah blah. There are people on this site that will rationalize it. Funny that many of them are those that have been talking about Epstein for years. If he is implicated, I seriously expect a few posts to the effect of "the past is the past. They're all doing it, but we cannot have a leftist in charge."
Trump still has my support, as I have not seen anything yet other than conjecture. I think this thing will end up implicating so many of these elites.
I will no longer discuss politics with you. I reject your premises and world view. I am finished trying to compromise with you.
Can someone explain why these emails, or any other information pertaining to trump, were NOT released during the election? Didn't the democrats have this same information for four years???
For the same reason Trump hasn't released the info on Clinton, even though he has hinted about it to stir up his base. this isn't a R versus D thing. it is a those in power versus those who aren't. They are all a part of the same club and thus will do what they can to protect their own.
La migra52 said:
Can someone explain why these emails, or any other information pertaining to trump, were NOT released during the election? Didn't the democrats have this same information for four years???
"It's a big club, and you ain't in it."
AgDev01 said:
For the same reason Trump hasn't released the info on Clinton, even though he has hinted about it to stir up his base. this isn't a R versus D thing. it is a those in power versus those who aren't. They are all a part of the same club and thus will do what they can to protect their own.
Give this winner a chicken dinner.
Old McDonald said:techno-ag said:
Because this is the Q thread for Dems. Any day now something devastating will be released.
the irony here is that the Q thread at its core was about justice for the epstein victims, but now that we know trump was involved the whole thing is a "hoax"
You know who was DEFINITELY INVOLVED?
Bill Clinton
this. the greatest trick trump ever played on his supporters was convincing them he was an outsider to these uber wealthy elite social circles that epstein's pedo ring catered to, when he spent his entire life embedded in them.AgDev01 said:
For the same reason Trump hasn't released the info on Clinton, even though he has hinted about it to stir up his base. this isn't a R versus D thing. it is a those in power versus those who aren't. They are all a part of the same club and thus will do what they can to protect their own.
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