Two best things that ever came out of that place





Not necessarily in that order

agent-maroon said:

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Urban Ag said:

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What do we really need from Canada?

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Lumber? Or has that already been debunked?

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We don't "need" lumber from Canada, but they have supplied it cheaper than US suppliers. One could make an argument this is an area where we sacrificed our US industry (and its available natural resources) for a marginally cheaper price from Canada, laying off workers and closing mills here and subsidizing Canadian jobs and industry.

This is where the free markets folks lose their argument. Ignoring all the other aspects of nations, geopolitics and industry crying "muh absolute free markets" is myopic at best, but also shows how misinformed these folks are.

Ag_of_08 said:

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We do pay the tarrifs. I don't know why yall refuse to accept basic reality...

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Ok? Do you see a better way to tackle our deficit and debt? Let's hear it. Remember, Congress won't help you. Did you really believe these things could be tackled without turbulence?

agent-maroon said:

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No more Rush to be had. RIP Neil Peart

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It was a great run.

Yesterday said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Growing the manufacturing base! I'm just glad we don't pay these tariffs. Canada, China and the rest of the world are paying off our national debt.

BREAKING: President Trump announces a 35% tariff on Canada beginning August 1st. pic.twitter.com/zcHD4GubM5

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) July 11, 2025

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How does Canada pay this 35% tariff?

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They reduce their cost to remain competitive.

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A 35% cost reduction isnt happening. Thats way beyond profit margins

jamey said:

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Yesterday said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Growing the manufacturing base! I'm just glad we don't pay these tariffs. Canada, China and the rest of the world are paying off our national debt.

BREAKING: President Trump announces a 35% tariff on Canada beginning August 1st. pic.twitter.com/zcHD4GubM5

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) July 11, 2025

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How does Canada pay this 35% tariff?

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They reduce their cost to remain competitive.

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A 35% cost reduction isnt happening. Thats way beyond profit margins

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Seems like the smart move for Canada would be to get their ass to the negotiation table. Or they can FAFO.

flown-the-coop said:

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jamey said:

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Yesterday said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Growing the manufacturing base! I'm just glad we don't pay these tariffs. Canada, China and the rest of the world are paying off our national debt.

BREAKING: President Trump announces a 35% tariff on Canada beginning August 1st. pic.twitter.com/zcHD4GubM5

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) July 11, 2025

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How does Canada pay this 35% tariff?

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They reduce their cost to remain competitive.

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A 35% cost reduction isnt happening. Thats way beyond profit margins

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Seems like the smart move for Canada would be to get their ass to the negotiation table. Or they can FAFO.

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Or we cave, or Canada finds another buyer..etc


Ultimately the US consumer will see an impact, particularly at these extra high tariff levels

Bessent himself said a 10% tariff may show up between 1 and 2% for US consumers for example

Us collecting a 10% tariff and the consumer only seeing a marginal increase is a win for the United States and its people.

We are not caving to Canada. Canada is not finding alternate buyers at the scale and veracity of the US.

jamey said:

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Yesterday said:

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Aggie95 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Growing the manufacturing base! I'm just glad we don't pay these tariffs. Canada, China and the rest of the world are paying off our national debt.

BREAKING: President Trump announces a 35% tariff on Canada beginning August 1st. pic.twitter.com/zcHD4GubM5

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) July 11, 2025

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How does Canada pay this 35% tariff?

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They reduce their cost to remain competitive.

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A 35% cost reduction isnt happening. Thats way beyond profit margins

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Then sell your wares in South Sudan

flown-the-coop said:

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Us collecting a 10% tariff and the consumer only seeing a marginal increase is a win for the United States and its people.

We are not caving to Canada. Canada is not finding alternate buyers at the scale and veracity of the US.

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I think it pauses fed rate cuts when it shows up though

And thr big bloated bill trades tariff money for spending cuts on the back end that will never happen

Funky Winkerbean said:

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What would you do if you were president, op?

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I would require idiots to try to learn what CPI YoY is.

agent-maroon said:

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Urban Ag said:

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What do we really need from Canada?

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Lumber? Or has that already been debunked?

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Nah. I have tree farms in South Georgia. The Canadian Gov has been flooding the market for years.

Thank you again Trump. Sorry about the TDS. I'm recovering.

Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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What would you do if you were president, op?

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I would require idiots to try to learn what CPI YoY is.

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lol. That was funny on that other thread.

Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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What would you do if you were president, op?

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I would require idiots to try to learn what CPI YoY is.

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The discussion was on the inflation rate, not CPI. The method by which the inflation rate is computed was not particularly relevant. But keep plucking that chicken.

Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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What would you do if you were president, op?

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I would require idiots to try to learn what CPI YoY is.

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Are you one of those that thought we were going to fix our deficit and debt without difficulties and sacrifice? You sound like it.

Yellen of all people projected a CPI YOY of just 3.0%. That's only up about 0.6% from current levels

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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What would you do if you were president, op?

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I would require idiots to try to learn what CPI YoY is.

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Are you one of those that thought we were going to fix our deficit and debt without difficulties and sacrifice? You sound like it.

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He's a disgruntled Kamala voter

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"In recent years, a convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point. Furniture sales are closely linked to the health of the housing market, which is struggling. Our hopes for a market recovery early in the year were quickly dashed as tariffs rattled the supply chain, sparked recession fears and pushed mortgage rates higher. The furniture industry continues to shed jobs and announce plant closings."

"This has been compounded by inflation and rising interest rates. Our business has been directly impacted by tariffs that have increased the cost of essential components unavailable domestically and driven specialty suppliers out of business, making it unsustainable for us to continue our operations."

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Howard Miller President & CEO Howard J. "Buzz" Miller

https://www.fox17online.com/news/local-news/holland-zeeland/i-audibly-gasped-news-of-howard-miller-shutdown-shocks-zeeland-community

And another one bites the dust.

Urban Ag said:

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What do we really need from Canada?

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Hockey players

captkirk said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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What would you do if you were president, op?

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I would require idiots to try to learn what CPI YoY is.

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The discussion was on the inflation rate, not CPI. The method by which the inflation rate is computed was not particularly relevant. But keep plucking that chicken.

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What a stupid ****ing post. Continue wallowing in it.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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What would you do if you were president, op?

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I would require idiots to try to learn what CPI YoY is.

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Are you one of those that thought we were going to fix our deficit and debt without difficulties and sacrifice? You sound like it.

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So on the one hand, we pass a tax cut, and on the other we give it back by paying tariffs. If that sounds dumb, it's because it is.

You've gone from national security, to building up manufacturing, to paying off the debt and reducing the deficit. Tariffs are magic! They do it all.

For reference, this is a clock maker who is citing the housing market decline (interesting) and its impact on the furniture industry for the reason its old school decorative clock business is struggling.

It's a nice manufactured story about a business closing and blaming their poor management on "market uncertainty" and Trump policies.

Too funny. Another swing, another miss.

Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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What would you do if you were president, op?

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I would require idiots to try to learn what CPI YoY is.

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Are you one of those that thought we were going to fix our deficit and debt without difficulties and sacrifice? You sound like it.

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So on the one hand, we pass a tax cut, and on the other we give back by paying tariffs. If that sounds dumb, it's because it is.

You've gone from national security, to building up manufacturing, to paying off the debt and reducing the deficit. Tariffs are magic! They do it all.

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We are collecting tariffs not paying them.

Tariffs are magic and Trump has been a wizard at wielding the
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Urban Ag said:

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What do we really need from Canada?

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Potash

flown-the-coop said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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What would you do if you were president, op?

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I would require idiots to try to learn what CPI YoY is.

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Are you one of those that thought we were going to fix our deficit and debt without difficulties and sacrifice? You sound like it.

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So on the one hand, we pass a tax cut, and on the other we give back by paying tariffs. If that sounds dumb, it's because it is.

You've gone from national security, to building up manufacturing, to paying off the debt and reducing the deficit. Tariffs are magic! They do it all.

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We are collecting tariffs not paying them.

Tariffs are magic and Trump has been a wizard at wielding the
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Yes, collecting them from US consumers.

this is obviously a ******ed move from Trump, just as much as it was the first couple times he tried it, but it's ultimately not worth getting worked up over because TACO

Logos Stick said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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What would you do if you were president, op?

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I would require idiots to try to learn what CPI YoY is.

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Are you one of those that thought we were going to fix our deficit and debt without difficulties and sacrifice? You sound like it.

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So on the one hand, we pass a tax cut, and on the other we give back by paying tariffs. If that sounds dumb, it's because it is.

You've gone from national security, to building up manufacturing, to paying off the debt and reducing the deficit. Tariffs are magic! They do it all.

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We are collecting tariffs not paying them.

Tariffs are magic and Trump has been a wizard at wielding the
.

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Yes, collecting them from US consumers.

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Yep, been debunked over and over and over. But if you hate Trump, you hate anything he does. And you can never admit he was right, particularly on tariffs.

Check your info on who pays the tariffs.

Old McDonald said:

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this is obviously a ******ed move from Trump, just as much as it was the first couple times he tried it, but it's ultimately not worth getting worked up over because TACO

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Ask Iran how the TACO tastes.

Sorry Trumps winning hurts your feelz.

flown-the-coop said:

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Logos Stick said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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What would you do if you were president, op?

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I would require idiots to try to learn what CPI YoY is.

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Are you one of those that thought we were going to fix our deficit and debt without difficulties and sacrifice? You sound like it.

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So on the one hand, we pass a tax cut, and on the other we give back by paying tariffs. If that sounds dumb, it's because it is.

You've gone from national security, to building up manufacturing, to paying off the debt and reducing the deficit. Tariffs are magic! They do it all.

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We are collecting tariffs not paying them.

Tariffs are magic and Trump has been a wizard at wielding the
.

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Yes, collecting them from US consumers.

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Yep, been debunked over and over and over. But if you hate Trump, you hate anything he does. And you can never admit he was right, particularly on tariffs.

Check your info on who pays the tariffs.

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Not debunked at all.

So explain how we collect them and from whom? If a company simply lowers its prices to eat the tariffs, we aren't collecting anything. So Canada is sending us a check?

flown-the-coop said:

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But if you hate Trump, you hate anything he does. And you can never admit he was right, particularly on tariffs.

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Your posts are becoming more child like, no different than captkirk's posts. Just because I can think logically and don't agree with a Trump policy, doesn't mean I hate Trump or that I voted for Kamala. Do you know he's also put tariffs on countries where we have a trade surplus?!! He's wrong on tariffs.

you're doing tricks on it brother

Logos Stick said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Logos Stick said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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What would you do if you were president, op?

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I would require idiots to try to learn what CPI YoY is.

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Are you one of those that thought we were going to fix our deficit and debt without difficulties and sacrifice? You sound like it.

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So on the one hand, we pass a tax cut, and on the other we give back by paying tariffs. If that sounds dumb, it's because it is.

You've gone from national security, to building up manufacturing, to paying off the debt and reducing the deficit. Tariffs are magic! They do it all.

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We are collecting tariffs not paying them.

Tariffs are magic and Trump has been a wizard at wielding the
.

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Yes, collecting them from US consumers.

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Yep, been debunked over and over and over. But if you hate Trump, you hate anything he does. And you can never admit he was right, particularly on tariffs.

Check your info on who pays the tariffs.

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Not debunked at all.

So explain how we collect them and from whom? If a company simply lowers its prices to eat the tariffs, we aren't collecting anything. So Canada is sending us a check?

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No, tariffs are collected at import. Cash only, no checks or IOUs.

Do you really not understand how tariffs work? Eating the tariff means some paid the tariff and did not pass that cost along. Not that it's not collected paid.

And we have collected over $100 billion thus far and projected to collect $300 billion total by end of this fiscal year in September.

Explain your solution and convince us of the depth of reality and knowledge you believe you possess. Don't bother with snarky kindergarten comments as you've done. Be specific.

Logos Stick said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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But if you hate Trump, you hate anything he does. And you can never admit he was right, particularly on tariffs.

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Your posts are becoming more child like, no different than captkirk's posts. Just because I can think logically and don't agree with a Trump policy, doesn't mean I hate Trump or that I voted for Kamala. Do you know he's also put tariffs on countries where we have a trade surplus?!! He's wrong on tariffs.

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You issue is your Trump hate clouds your "facts".

You don't even understand how tariffs are paid.

He's right on tariffs.

Tariffs and other liberal fiscal policy.

Cut taxes
Gut spending
Deregulate