Where are we as a culture? Social Media, AI, work/life balance & expensive divorce...

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Yeah, but way up high. I still don't think they ever thought they would be caught out.
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That cannot have been a situation where the guy's marriage was going well, the wife knew nothing, etc. Somebody who is a CEO of a technology company can't be stupid. And they have to have the expectation that somebody who knows them will see them out in public. As a physician, I run into my patients everywhere all the time. Two weeks ago, one of my patients recognized me in a lounge at Heathrow airport and started to talk to me. Of course, I was not there with my side piece, so other than some annoying conversation, which he joked about, it wasn't a problem. I really feel sorry for the guys's kids, though. That's gotta be terrible for them, and they did nothing to deserve it..
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Jett01 said:

infinity ag said:

Butterflygrl said:

Married to TA-OP and I can attest that we have not had a fight in 22 years of marriage. We disagree and pick our battles. When you come from trauma- you want better for your kids and that's where we are at. We try to set a good example.

As far as the Coldplay concert couple- I feel bad for the CEOs kids that have seen this play out. I am thankful that I have a healthy marriage and model that for our kids.


Hmm.
Is this the first husband-wife couple on TA? I have never seen any who have outed themselves in my 25+ years here.

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Not even close. I can quickly think of 3 offhand, me being one, and I'm not a frequent poster.



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Kool said:

That cannot have been a situation where the guy's marriage was going well, the wife knew nothing, etc. Somebody who is a CEO of a technology company can't be stupid. And they have to have the expectation that somebody who knows them will see them out in public. As a physician, I run into my patients everywhere all the time. Two weeks ago, one of my patients recognized me in a lounge at Heathrow airport and started to talk to me. Of course, I was not there with my side piece, so other than some annoying conversation, which he joked about, it wasn't a problem. I really feel sorry for the guys's kids, though. That's gotta be terrible for them, and they did nothing to deserve it..


You are right.
I think the marriage was broken and the wife knew he was banging other chicks. She is probably sipping champagne enjoying his public downfall.
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infinity ag said:

Kool said:

That cannot have been a situation where the guy's marriage was going well, the wife knew nothing, etc. Somebody who is a CEO of a technology company can't be stupid. And they have to have the expectation that somebody who knows them will see them out in public. As a physician, I run into my patients everywhere all the time. Two weeks ago, one of my patients recognized me in a lounge at Heathrow airport and started to talk to me. Of course, I was not there with my side piece, so other than some annoying conversation, which he joked about, it wasn't a problem. I really feel sorry for the guys's kids, though. That's gotta be terrible for them, and they did nothing to deserve it..


You are right.
I think the marriage was broken and the wife knew he was banging other chicks. She is probably sipping champagne enjoying his public downfall.
it's quite likely she did know or at least suspect. But I doubt his kids did. He didn't just wreck one life. Selfish POS.
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Tale as old as time.

Husband and wife make a pact. He will be the breadwinner; she will raise the children.

He hits it big as a tech CEO. Tons of money and prestige. Private jets. Meetings with government officials.

He travels to LA, Singapore, London, etc. He dines at The French Laundry and Alain Ducasse. He goes to customer meetings in Hawaii. He is surrounded by successful, interesting people. He stays in shape because he represents his company and has to look the part.

His wife stays home and makes sure Aiden, Brayden and Layden get to lacrosse practice and private cello lessons. She is 100 percent involved in their lives and volunteers at Country Day School. She is alone a lot, or with kids and other moms.

Her life is fulfilling and she is lonely but happy. But to her husband, she's become a bore. All she can talk about is school fundraisers and Aiden's college applications. She doesn't even know about the latest tech gossip or care how AI is transforming business operations.

Besides, that new HR lady really seems to like him, and is always paying him compliments ...
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Kool said:

That cannot have been a situation where the guy's marriage was going well, the wife knew nothing, etc. Somebody who is a CEO of a technology company can't be stupid. And they have to have the expectation that somebody who knows them will see them out in public. As a physician, I run into my patients everywhere all the time. Two weeks ago, one of my patients recognized me in a lounge at Heathrow airport and started to talk to me. Of course, I was not there with my side piece, so other than some annoying conversation, which he joked about, it wasn't a problem. I really feel sorry for the guys's kids, though. That's gotta be terrible for them, and they did nothing to deserve it..


You'd be surprised….
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Isn't it a common phenomenon where the cheating spouse subconsciously wants to get caught?
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infinity ag said:




Nothing to add on the infidelity topic, but it's obvious from this photo they're standing up in front of the people seated behind them, blocking their view. Self-absorbed... it's all about them. Being considerate of others doesn't even cross their mind, or if it does, it's even worse because they dismiss it.

Karma.
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EclipseAg said:

Tale as old as time.

Husband and wife make a pact. He will be the breadwinner; she will raise the children.

He hits it big as a tech CEO. Tons of money and prestige. Private jets. Meetings with government officials.

He travels to LA, Singapore, London, etc. He dines at The French Laundry and Alain Ducasse. He goes to customer meetings in Hawaii. He is surrounded by successful, interesting people. He stays in shape because he represents his company and has to look the part.

His wife stays home and makes sure Aiden, Brayden and Layden get to lacrosse practice and private cello lessons. She is 100 percent involved in their lives and volunteers at Country Day School. She is alone a lot, or with kids and other moms.

Her life is fulfilling and she is lonely but happy. But to her husband, she's become a bore. All she can talk about is school fundraisers and Aiden's college applications. She doesn't even know about the latest tech gossip or care how AI is transforming business operations.

Besides, that new HR lady really seems to like him, and is always paying him compliments ...


I think you are right. I believe this is fairly common phenomenon though people may not go out and have affairs over it. Humans are always changing all the time. We are not the same people we were at 15, 20, 25 and then 40. It is like an electrical waveform. Some get more religious, some get more racist, some flip political positions, some get more spiritual, could be anything. If husband and wife, who are both changing, move in a compatible direction, then they will be happy together. If they move in different directions, there will be trouble.

In the above example, the man becomes a big CEO with a lot of money, attention, publicity. The wife stays a housewife and takes care of the kids. Both are "good" in their own ways but have fallen out of lockstep with each other and don't fulfill each other's needs. They have grown apart. I find this a very common occurrence and from a man's perspective, he needs someone to "excite" him intellectually and dress hot AND someone to take care of home and kids. Usually the same woman cannot do both these things and do them well. The career woman is terrible with cooking, cleaning, and raising kids. But she can do fun talk and possibly dress sexy, and has confidence that is attractive. Hence the affair. In the old days in some cultures, rich men had many wives to take care of these situations.

You are right, tale as old as time and things won't change.
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Since we're making up stories, here is my best guess.

Guy is an a*hole. Before he was successful, he was an a*hole but less visible and perhaps less opportunities to show what a a*hole he is.

Guy finds success at work, becomes more visible. Everyone learns what a a*hole he always was.

The end.
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100% spot on.

the only thing you are leaving out is the wife is actually younger and MUCH hotter than the side piece.

even more unbelievable this idiot chose the path he did!!
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EclipseAg said:

Isn't it a common phenomenon where the cheating spouse subconsciously wants to get caught?

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LMCane said:

100% spot on.

the only thing you are leaving out is the wife is actually younger and MUCH hotter than the side piece.

even more unbelievable this idiot chose the path he did!!


No it is not unbelievable. He was having both for a certain period of time.
Men love the challenge of chasing a woman and getting her to like him. So he was able to get that high. She would be more fun to talk to in comparison to the wife who likely only talks about the kids and nags him about this or that.

The HR lady made him feel like a man again (this is very important) and he made her feel like a woman again.

The wife's age/hotness does not help much if she is boring or have a bad personality. A woman's physical hotness is appealing to 20 year old boys, but as men get older, that has less importance for most men.
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infinity ag said:


I find this a very common occurrence and from a man's perspective, he needs someone to "excite" him intellectually and dress hot AND someone to take care of home and kids. Usually the same woman cannot do both these things and do them well. The career woman is terrible with cooking, cleaning, and raising kids. But she can do fun talk and possibly dress sexy, and has confidence that is attractive. Hence the affair. In the old days in some cultures, rich men had many wives to take care of these situations.

You are right, tale as old as time and things won't change.

As a young corporate guy, I had an opportunity to go to our annual shareholder meeting. The board members -- mostly older men -- were all sitting at the dais.

But in the front row of the audience were some of the most beautiful women I'd ever seen, all in a row. They were mostly my age. Sharply dressed. In great shape. Completely put together.

I asked one of my older coworkers, "Who ARE those women?"

He said, "Those are the board members' trophy wives."

Lesson learned.
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EclipseAg said:

infinity ag said:


I find this a very common occurrence and from a man's perspective, he needs someone to "excite" him intellectually and dress hot AND someone to take care of home and kids. Usually the same woman cannot do both these things and do them well. The career woman is terrible with cooking, cleaning, and raising kids. But she can do fun talk and possibly dress sexy, and has confidence that is attractive. Hence the affair. In the old days in some cultures, rich men had many wives to take care of these situations.

You are right, tale as old as time and things won't change.

As a young corporate guy, I had an opportunity to go to our annual shareholder meeting. The board members -- mostly older men -- were all sitting at the dais.

But in the front row of the audience were some of the most beautiful women I'd ever seen, all in a row. They were mostly my age. Sharply dressed. In great shape. Completely put together.

I asked one of my older coworkers, "Who ARE those women?"

He said, "Those are the board members' trophy wives."

Lesson learned.


Yes, but I am sure those men were past the ages when they needed a woman at home to take care of the kids. The kids would be all grown up and out of the house.
The women sitting in the front row would be bad mothers but great to show off at events. So it makes sense.

Andy was in a phase of life where he kids at home, and felt the itch that men feel.
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infinity ag said:

EclipseAg said:

Tale as old as time.

Husband and wife make a pact. He will be the breadwinner; she will raise the children.

He hits it big as a tech CEO. Tons of money and prestige. Private jets. Meetings with government officials.

He travels to LA, Singapore, London, etc. He dines at The French Laundry and Alain Ducasse. He goes to customer meetings in Hawaii. He is surrounded by successful, interesting people. He stays in shape because he represents his company and has to look the part.

His wife stays home and makes sure Aiden, Brayden and Layden get to lacrosse practice and private cello lessons. She is 100 percent involved in their lives and volunteers at Country Day School. She is alone a lot, or with kids and other moms.

Her life is fulfilling and she is lonely but happy. But to her husband, she's become a bore. All she can talk about is school fundraisers and Aiden's college applications. She doesn't even know about the latest tech gossip or care how AI is transforming business operations.

Besides, that new HR lady really seems to like him, and is always paying him compliments ...


I think you are right. I believe this is fairly common phenomenon though people may not go out and have affairs over it. Humans are always changing all the time. We are not the same people we were at 15, 20, 25 and then 40. It is like an electrical waveform. Some get more religious, some get more racist, some flip political positions, some get more spiritual, could be anything. If husband and wife, who are both changing, move in a compatible direction, then they will be happy together. If they move in different directions, there will be trouble.

In the above example, the man becomes a big CEO with a lot of money, attention, publicity. The wife stays a housewife and takes care of the kids. Both are "good" in their own ways but have fallen out of lockstep with each other and don't fulfill each other's needs. They have grown apart. I find this a very common occurrence and from a man's perspective, he needs someone to "excite" him intellectually and dress hot AND someone to take care of home and kids. Usually the same woman cannot do both these things and do them well. The career woman is terrible with cooking, cleaning, and raising kids. But she can do fun talk and possibly dress sexy, and has confidence that is attractive. Hence the affair. In the old days in some cultures, rich men had many wives to take care of these situations.

You are right, tale as old as time and things won't change.


The Total Woman movement of the 1970s sought to address this very issue. Marabel Morgan published The Total Woman in 1973 and it was a huge bestseller. Clubs formed around the country as housewives met and learned how to keep their man happy.

Of course it was pilloried by the feminists of the day. SNL even had a Gilda Radner (if memory serves) skit mocking it. But it touches on all your points.
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FrioAg 00 said:

Since we're making up stories, here is my best guess.

Guy is an a*hole. Before he was successful, he was an a*hole but less visible and perhaps less opportunities to show what a a*hole he is.

Guy finds success at work, becomes more visible. Everyone learns what a a*hole he always was.

The end.
Someone get JJ Abrams on the line.
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techno-ag said:

infinity ag said:

EclipseAg said:

Tale as old as time.

Husband and wife make a pact. He will be the breadwinner; she will raise the children.

He hits it big as a tech CEO. Tons of money and prestige. Private jets. Meetings with government officials.

He travels to LA, Singapore, London, etc. He dines at The French Laundry and Alain Ducasse. He goes to customer meetings in Hawaii. He is surrounded by successful, interesting people. He stays in shape because he represents his company and has to look the part.

His wife stays home and makes sure Aiden, Brayden and Layden get to lacrosse practice and private cello lessons. She is 100 percent involved in their lives and volunteers at Country Day School. She is alone a lot, or with kids and other moms.

Her life is fulfilling and she is lonely but happy. But to her husband, she's become a bore. All she can talk about is school fundraisers and Aiden's college applications. She doesn't even know about the latest tech gossip or care how AI is transforming business operations.

Besides, that new HR lady really seems to like him, and is always paying him compliments ...


I think you are right. I believe this is fairly common phenomenon though people may not go out and have affairs over it. Humans are always changing all the time. We are not the same people we were at 15, 20, 25 and then 40. It is like an electrical waveform. Some get more religious, some get more racist, some flip political positions, some get more spiritual, could be anything. If husband and wife, who are both changing, move in a compatible direction, then they will be happy together. If they move in different directions, there will be trouble.

In the above example, the man becomes a big CEO with a lot of money, attention, publicity. The wife stays a housewife and takes care of the kids. Both are "good" in their own ways but have fallen out of lockstep with each other and don't fulfill each other's needs. They have grown apart. I find this a very common occurrence and from a man's perspective, he needs someone to "excite" him intellectually and dress hot AND someone to take care of home and kids. Usually the same woman cannot do both these things and do them well. The career woman is terrible with cooking, cleaning, and raising kids. But she can do fun talk and possibly dress sexy, and has confidence that is attractive. Hence the affair. In the old days in some cultures, rich men had many wives to take care of these situations.

You are right, tale as old as time and things won't change.


The Total Woman movement of the 1970s sought to address this very issue. Marabel Morgan published The Total Woman in 1973 and it was a huge bestseller. Clubs formed around the country as housewives met and learned how to keep their man happy.

Of course it was pilloried by the feminists of the day. SNL even had a Gilda Radner (if memory serves) skit mocking it. But it touches on all your points.


There is nothing more intoxicating as an intelligent woman who can hold a conversation, dress well, stay slim and not be a "b". The women who are like this and are good moms are very hard to find. Maybe it takes too much time and effort, so cannot really blame anyone. I feel the same about men, to find someone who is super successful, rich and powerful but also a good dad is almost impossible. Most CEOs are terrible dads which no one sees or cares to look because people are too glamorized by their success (example Steve Jobs).
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Not to pivot too far off topic but my wife and I watched a new HBO documentary on the Idaho murders. They spent much of one episode discussing the scourge of social media trying to capitalize on it by flat out lying about the facts. Dozens of people were accused of murdering those college kids. Most learned to never go on social media again. Some were even accused of it after the killer was caught because they needed click bait.

It's pathetic was some people will do for a dollar/get famous.

Ironically, a social group on Facebook discussing the case had dozens of posts from the real killer and wasn't discovered until later.
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The cold hard truth is that so many wives have kids and then only see themselves as a mother. And they start to believe that's their only job so it becomes their identity. They forget they are a wife too. Just because you have kids and stay home doesn't mean you need stuff your fat face, dress like a school marm, and let your vagina turn into the cave from raiders of the lost ark. I see it ALL the time. Wife stays home, turns to trash. Just diet some, work out a little, and go to the doc to fix what time has ruined. That will keep a husband around.
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Teslag said:

The cold hard truth is that so many wives have kids and then only see themselves as a mother. And they start to believe that's their only job so it becomes their identity. They forget they are a wife too. Just because you have kids and stay home doesn't mean you need stuff your fat face, dress like a school marm, and let your vagina turn into the cave from raiders of the lost ark. I see it ALL the time. Wife stays home, turns to trash. Just diet some, work out a little, and go to the doc to fix what time has ruined. That will keep a husband around.

Interesting that this thread started with "where are we as a culture" and this is where we've ended up.
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Good point. In many cases an esthetician would suffice. The point is, she need to take care of herself. We preach that we've lost our values, but women in the 50's and 60's took care of a home and still managed to look great for their husbands.
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Teslag said:

The cold hard truth is that so many wives have kids and then only see themselves as a mother. And they start to believe that's their only job so it becomes their identity. They forget they are a wife too. Just because you have kids and stay home doesn't mean you need stuff your fat face, dress like a school marm, and let your vagina turn into the cave from raiders of the lost ark. I see it ALL the time. Wife stays home, turns to trash. Just diet some, work out a little, and go to the doc to fix what time has ruined. That will keep a husband around.


I have seen this but I also see cases where women do the first part of thinking their only job is to be moms, not wives. So even if they stay in shape, the husband is no longer their focus anymore. Men too need to feel wanted and desired. Not just be treated like an ATM.

Everyone ages, and aging is harder on women than men. Men see their value increase as they get older in most cases. Women see it diminish and that is not a good feeling. A woman at 40 does not need to look like a supermodel, she can look her age but keep her weight in check, be as fit as possible, eat right and very important, be pleasant to be around.
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Many women can still be super hot at 40 and 50. This CEO wasn't even banging a 20 year old. She was old too. But her body looked fit. And was probably up for the extras in bed.

Age is an excuse for many women. Ya it's harder no doubt. But getting cheated on and divorced is even harder.
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FrioAg 00 said:

Since we're making up stories, here is my best guess.

Guy is an a*hole. Before he was successful, he was an a*hole but less visible and perhaps less opportunities to show what a a*hole he is.

Guy finds success at work, becomes more visible. Everyone learns what a a*hole he always was.

The end.

Being an as*hole is a prerequisite to being CEO in almost all cases
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No of my business, until they make it everyone's business.
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Sims said:

Teslag said:

The cold hard truth is that so many wives have kids and then only see themselves as a mother. And they start to believe that's their only job so it becomes their identity. They forget they are a wife too. Just because you have kids and stay home doesn't mean you need stuff your fat face, dress like a school marm, and let your vagina turn into the cave from raiders of the lost ark. I see it ALL the time. Wife stays home, turns to trash. Just diet some, work out a little, and go to the doc to fix what time has ruined. That will keep a husband around.

Interesting that this thread started with "where are we as a culture" and this is where we've ended up.



We've ended up identifying the two people most likely to cheat on their wives.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Sims said:

Teslag said:

The cold hard truth is that so many wives have kids and then only see themselves as a mother. And they start to believe that's their only job so it becomes their identity. They forget they are a wife too. Just because you have kids and stay home doesn't mean you need stuff your fat face, dress like a school marm, and let your vagina turn into the cave from raiders of the lost ark. I see it ALL the time. Wife stays home, turns to trash. Just diet some, work out a little, and go to the doc to fix what time has ruined. That will keep a husband around.

Interesting that this thread started with "where are we as a culture" and this is where we've ended up.



We've ended up identifying the two people most likely to cheat on their wives.


Yea I want to know how that convo goes: "honey I've lined up about $20k in plastic surgery for you, your first operation is next Tuesday. I'll handle pick up and drop off duties for the kids. I know money is tight but things have been ruined on you and they need to be fixed. I figure $20k worth of surgery is better than us getting a divorce. Here's the doctor's address. Love you!"
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Just when you thought this would go away.


He can't be this dense. Bro just take the L and get on with life......

 
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