Who?mikejones! said:

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Those wnba teams were worth 15 or 20 millions a decade ago. Now they are worth 200 million.

So, it's a wealth creator that worth it despite the losses at this rate. If those losses grow too much, it will become to burdensome and not justify the investment

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Adjusted for decade of inflation?
If they are appreciating then you would think that Fertitta would've brought back the Comets team. He seems fairly astute.

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Those wnba teams were worth 15 or 20 millions a decade ago. Now they are worth 200 million.

So, it's a wealth creator that worth it despite the losses at this rate. If those losses grow too much, it will become to burdensome and not justify the investment

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Adjusted for decade of inflation?
If they are appreciating then you would think that Fertitta would've brought back the Comets team. He seems fairly astute.

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I wonder how much they would be worth without the NBA covering their costs?

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Rascal said:

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I'm actually genuinely curious as to how the league is losing $50M every year?

They don't own their own arenas since they play in existing NBA arenas, most of them don't own their own practice facilities. Sure they have to cover travel costs and player salaries. Do they have to arena pay rent to the NBA team in which they play?

It ain't like their average game attendance is 100 people and advertisers are buying ads in their telecasts and sponsoring the teams to a degree.

Not a fan at all, but curious how the math is working on this to get to a $50M loss?

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Ai Breakdown:

WNBA Revenue Breakdown and Loss (Approximate)

Category Amount
Total Revenue $200 million
NBA Cut (42%) $84 million
Investor Cut (16%) $32 million
Revenue Remaining $84 million

Expenses

Item Amount
Charter Flights $25 million
Player Salaries (12 teams) $36 million
Operations & Staff $40 million
Total Expenses ~$101 million

Bottom Line

Result Amount
Operating Loss $17 million
Other Costs & Accounting $20+ million
Total Annual Loss ~$40 million

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Its bad, investors are stupid

All-star game rating numbers down big despite ESPN fudging the numbers

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sleepybeagle said:

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Most people understand that physically, men and women are not the same.

Prior to puberty, boys and girls are physically similar in size, strength, and skill except when it comes to throwing. By the age of three, boys can throw objects farther, faster, and with greater accuracy than girls. No other physical activity in early childhood shows such a pronounced gap between the sexes. As they get older, boys across cultures refine this ability tossing sticks, stones, balls, or whatever is at hand. By adolescence, their advantage in throwing ability has tripled.

The male edge in throwing power and speed is evident even in the smallest hunter-gatherer societies.

- from Sexual Politics by Robert Henderson

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the first sentence about prior to puberty is not correct....My son - u12 soccer player- would smash u14 girls teams. My daughter plays u14.. it is not close. Especially for the boys, puberty hasn't hit yet and still..

It would be no different in basketball...

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In swimming, girls are actually faster than the boys until about U12-U13. Then the boys take the lead and the gap goes up exponentially.

Also, generally this is true. You're son maybe just stronger/faster than average, or your daughter weaker/slower than average.

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Aston04 said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Most people understand that physically, men and women are not the same.

Prior to puberty, boys and girls are physically similar in size, strength, and skill except when it comes to throwing. By the age of three, boys can throw objects farther, faster, and with greater accuracy than girls. No other physical activity in early childhood shows such a pronounced gap between the sexes. As they get older, boys across cultures refine this ability tossing sticks, stones, balls, or whatever is at hand. By adolescence, their advantage in throwing ability has tripled.

The male edge in throwing power and speed is evident even in the smallest hunter-gatherer societies.

- from Sexual Politics by Robert Henderson

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the first sentence about prior to puberty is not correct....My son - u12 soccer player- would smash u14 girls teams. My daughter plays u14.. it is not close. Especially for the boys, puberty hasn't hit yet and still..

It would be no different in basketball...

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You are right, didn't a 12U or 14U boys soccer team in Dallas beat the women's USA soccer team badly? Thought I saw that somewhere or watched a video about it.

I'm sure some of the women in the WNBA are pretty athletic, like Cheryl Swoopes, she was a beast at Tech...She might have been able to hang with some really athletic men, but their is hardly any women like her in basketball. I mean she is probably like 1 in a million..

They should stick to mostly women's sports, like softball and volleyball. make a professional league for that and own it..Women's softball is actually pretty fun to watch...It's hard to watch WNBA when the regular NBA is so much better even with the crappy rules the men play with in this era.

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It was U15.

WNBA players get dominated by boy high school players routinely . Tons of video

agracer said:

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Ramdiesel said:

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Aston04 said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Most people understand that physically, men and women are not the same.

Prior to puberty, boys and girls are physically similar in size, strength, and skill except when it comes to throwing. By the age of three, boys can throw objects farther, faster, and with greater accuracy than girls. No other physical activity in early childhood shows such a pronounced gap between the sexes. As they get older, boys across cultures refine this ability tossing sticks, stones, balls, or whatever is at hand. By adolescence, their advantage in throwing ability has tripled.

The male edge in throwing power and speed is evident even in the smallest hunter-gatherer societies.

- from Sexual Politics by Robert Henderson

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the first sentence about prior to puberty is not correct....My son - u12 soccer player- would smash u14 girls teams. My daughter plays u14.. it is not close. Especially for the boys, puberty hasn't hit yet and still..

It would be no different in basketball...

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You are right, didn't a 12U or 14U boys soccer team in Dallas beat the women's USA soccer team badly? Thought I saw that somewhere or watched a video about it.

I'm sure some of the women in the WNBA are pretty athletic, like Cheryl Swoopes, she was a beast at Tech...She might have been able to hang with some really athletic men, but their is hardly any women like her in basketball. I mean she is probably like 1 in a million..

They should stick to mostly women's sports, like softball and volleyball. make a professional league for that and own it..Women's softball is actually pretty fun to watch...It's hard to watch WNBA when the regular NBA is so much better even with the crappy rules the men play with in this era.

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It was U15.

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That is typically 13, 14, or 15

samurai_science said:

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agracer said:

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Ramdiesel said:

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Aston04 said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Most people understand that physically, men and women are not the same.

Prior to puberty, boys and girls are physically similar in size, strength, and skill except when it comes to throwing. By the age of three, boys can throw objects farther, faster, and with greater accuracy than girls. No other physical activity in early childhood shows such a pronounced gap between the sexes. As they get older, boys across cultures refine this ability tossing sticks, stones, balls, or whatever is at hand. By adolescence, their advantage in throwing ability has tripled.

The male edge in throwing power and speed is evident even in the smallest hunter-gatherer societies.

- from Sexual Politics by Robert Henderson

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the first sentence about prior to puberty is not correct....My son - u12 soccer player- would smash u14 girls teams. My daughter plays u14.. it is not close. Especially for the boys, puberty hasn't hit yet and still..

It would be no different in basketball...

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You are right, didn't a 12U or 14U boys soccer team in Dallas beat the women's USA soccer team badly? Thought I saw that somewhere or watched a video about it.

I'm sure some of the women in the WNBA are pretty athletic, like Cheryl Swoopes, she was a beast at Tech...She might have been able to hang with some really athletic men, but their is hardly any women like her in basketball. I mean she is probably like 1 in a million..

They should stick to mostly women's sports, like softball and volleyball. make a professional league for that and own it..Women's softball is actually pretty fun to watch...It's hard to watch WNBA when the regular NBA is so much better even with the crappy rules the men play with in this era.

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It was U15.

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That is typically 13, 14, or 15

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U15 is 15 and under. So 2025 U15 is anyone who turns 15 in 2025. That changed was implemented a few years ago by US Soccer to match the rest of the world.

There is a huge difference between a 13 and 15yr old boy. There are not a lot of 13 yr old's playing U15. There is a dramatic difference in size, speed and strength between a 15yr old and 13 yr old boy. I have 4 boys and lived the difference between them while they were growing up.

EDIT: Also, I was responding to the post that said 12 or 14yr old boys team. I was just pointing out it was U15. 12yr old boys would not beat the USWN Team.

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I find it interesting that with all of the increased attention on the WBNA because of Caitlyn Clark, more people are seeing just how bad the WBNA is. The entitlement of the players to think they are owed something not based upon the revenue the league is generating but based upon their inflated own self-worth is laughable.

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And the sad thing is that she is the sole reason that league might eventually come out of the red, and gets about 100x more eyeballs than they did previously. Yet 75% of the league hates her......because she is white. We can thank treasonous Barry O for the country's racial divide he propagated starting in 2008.

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Simps and white knights always show up


Dave Portnoy calls out 'morons' who think WNBA players shouldn't get more money
https://nypost.com/2025/07/20/sports/dave-portnoy-calls-out-morons-who-think-wnba-players-shouldnt-get-more-money/


Dave Portnoy is fed up with those who believe WNBA players don't deserve a higher payday.

In the wake of players wearing warmup shirts that said "Pay Us What You Owe Us" at Saturday's All-Star Game, the Barstool Sports founder and owner made his stance clear with a lengthy post and subsequent video on X on Sunday.

"I don't know how anybody in the world with a brain, and maybe my brain is just bigger than most, can rationally say women don't deserve more money at this point," Portnoy said in the video.


Is he lying that the WNBA makes money?

WNBA rant for people with smaller brains than me. pic.twitter.com/biDNBX7JWA

— Dave Portnoy (@stoolpresidente) July 20, 2025

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All he is doing there is trying hard to increase his female following to Barstool. Nobody is buying that he actually believes this. I'll give him credit, he is a genius marketer.

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Why did the nba ever agree to these insane structures?

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Began as a virtue signal. It costs them zip in the scheme of things regarding their $, and nba became a bff to "the W".

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TexasAggiesWin said:

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I find it interesting that with all of the increased attention on the WBNA because of Caitlyn Clark, more people are seeing just how bad the WBNA is. The entitlement of the players to think they are owed something not based upon the revenue the league is generating but based upon their inflated own self-worth is laughable.

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And the sad thing is that she is the sole reason that league might eventually come out of the red, and gets about 100x more eyeballs than they did previously. Yet 75% of the league hates her......because she is white. We can thank treasonous Barry O for the country's racial divide he propagated starting in 2008.

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white and heterosexual

People underestimate how much the WNBA has been taken over by woke LGB wanna-be activists

A lot of the players operate in a fantasy world, they genuinely believe if ESPN marketed them more like the NBA, they'd be equal to the NBA. You can't argue with that kind of mental illness.

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samurai_science said:

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agracer said:

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Ramdiesel said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Most people understand that physically, men and women are not the same.

Prior to puberty, boys and girls are physically similar in size, strength, and skill except when it comes to throwing. By the age of three, boys can throw objects farther, faster, and with greater accuracy than girls. No other physical activity in early childhood shows such a pronounced gap between the sexes. As they get older, boys across cultures refine this ability tossing sticks, stones, balls, or whatever is at hand. By adolescence, their advantage in throwing ability has tripled.

The male edge in throwing power and speed is evident even in the smallest hunter-gatherer societies.

- from Sexual Politics by Robert Henderson

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the first sentence about prior to puberty is not correct....My son - u12 soccer player- would smash u14 girls teams. My daughter plays u14.. it is not close. Especially for the boys, puberty hasn't hit yet and still..

It would be no different in basketball...

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You are right, didn't a 12U or 14U boys soccer team in Dallas beat the women's USA soccer team badly? Thought I saw that somewhere or watched a video about it.

I'm sure some of the women in the WNBA are pretty athletic, like Cheryl Swoopes, she was a beast at Tech...She might have been able to hang with some really athletic men, but their is hardly any women like her in basketball. I mean she is probably like 1 in a million..

They should stick to mostly women's sports, like softball and volleyball. make a professional league for that and own it..Women's softball is actually pretty fun to watch...It's hard to watch WNBA when the regular NBA is so much better even with the crappy rules the men play with in this era.

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It was U15.

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That is typically 13, 14, or 15

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U15 is 15 and under. So 2025 U15 is anyone who turns 15 in 2025. That changed was implemented a few years ago by US Soccer to match the rest of the world.

There is a huge difference between a 13 and 15yr old boy. There are not a lot of 13 yr old's playing U15. There is a dramatic difference in size, speed and strength between a 15yr old and 13 yr old boy. I have 4 boys and lived the difference between them while they were growing up.

EDIT: Also, I was responding to the post that said 12 or 14yr old boys team. I was just pointing out it was U15. 12yr old boys would not beat the USWN Team.

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Maybe, maybe not. Who cares what was changed and when, 13-15 year team beat the woman.

infinity ag said:

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https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7352757347829628928/






Poor Kevin McBride. He will be stoned alive for pointing out the truth.

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agracer said:

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Aston04 said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Most people understand that physically, men and women are not the same.

Prior to puberty, boys and girls are physically similar in size, strength, and skill except when it comes to throwing. By the age of three, boys can throw objects farther, faster, and with greater accuracy than girls. No other physical activity in early childhood shows such a pronounced gap between the sexes. As they get older, boys across cultures refine this ability tossing sticks, stones, balls, or whatever is at hand. By adolescence, their advantage in throwing ability has tripled.

The male edge in throwing power and speed is evident even in the smallest hunter-gatherer societies.

- from Sexual Politics by Robert Henderson

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the first sentence about prior to puberty is not correct....My son - u12 soccer player- would smash u14 girls teams. My daughter plays u14.. it is not close. Especially for the boys, puberty hasn't hit yet and still..

It would be no different in basketball...

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In swimming, girls are actually faster than the boys until about U12-U13. Then the boys take the lead and the gap goes up exponentially.

Also, generally this is true. You're son maybe just stronger/faster than average, or your daughter weaker/slower than average.

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I will run this post by my GF who has been a swim coach for 30 years. You could be right.

Now, HER daughter was faster than all but the top boys, but that's because she had extra special training...

Now we know why Michael Jordan was bald.

Who knew the WNBA had so many *****s?

Someone threw a green dildo on the court during a WNBA game tonight. pic.twitter.com/mFSESW6cfE

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) July 30, 2025

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Who knew the WNBA had so many *****s?

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Lol

hph6203 said:

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Who knew the WNBA had so many *****s?

Someone threw a green dildo on the court during a WNBA game tonight. pic.twitter.com/mFSESW6cfE

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) July 30, 2025

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I was waiting for the announcers to call it a 'tallywacker'

As comical as that is, what's even more comical is that basketball. It's so bad. You could go to any boy's HS game and see much better basketball than what these WNBA games provide.

Ball girls need new training.

SPORTSBALL: Angel Reese didn’t like getting pressured and SCRATCHED the defenders eye. She should be banned. pic.twitter.com/Z1vcQfsWZb

— @amuse (@amuse) August 24, 2025

So aggressive now they eating theyselves.

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SPORTSBALL: Angel Reese didn’t like getting pressured and SCRATCHED the defenders eye. She should be banned. pic.twitter.com/Z1vcQfsWZb

— @amuse (@amuse) August 24, 2025

So aggressive now they eating theyselves.

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Sorry to derail but do you really speak this way?

The push to popularize wnba is hilarious. It's in every NYT crossword or similar games.

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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SPORTSBALL: Angel Reese didn’t like getting pressured and SCRATCHED the defenders eye. She should be banned. pic.twitter.com/Z1vcQfsWZb

— @amuse (@amuse) August 24, 2025

So aggressive now they eating theyselves.

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Sorry to derail but do you really speak this way?

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Doubtful.
But I THINK the point is....SHE do.

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