Thank you for your attention to this matter, re: tariffs on India

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I laugh every time he ends with that phrase! I had no idea that they trade with Russia for military equipment. I did know they've been buying Russian oil, essentially financing the Russian war.

Bad India!

Let's see how they react.

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F India and the visas
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I wouldn't bat an eye cutting India and their visitors off.


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He should have worked in "do the needful".
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He's so polite and statesman-like when he thanks people all the time.
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But wait, I thought he was Putin's puppet?
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Scruffy said:

He should have worked in "do the needful".

That phrase in emails cracks me up every time I read it
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Squeezing BRICS in the process.
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samurai_science said:

F India and the visas

This. Want to tell India to knock this **** off, suspend all student visas from India. Give current visa holders 30 days to return to India or face deportation unless India immediately stops purchasing Russian oil.
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Sort of would like to see Trump look at offshoring of jobs to places like India. It's becoming a regular occurence to see layoffs involving thousands of head count per incident/company. These are middle class jobs lost, supposedly the backbone of our society. I grew up a Reagan Republican and am generally sympathetic to laissez faire economics, but I also recognize the USA isn't a pure market and regulation, laws, and trade pacts greatly affect wages and prices.

Not sure letting the corporate giants do whatever they want is the way to go. That said, I don't think overregulating with a healthy side of polition corruption added in is correct either.
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Thank you, saars.
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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Prosperdick said:

But wait, I thought he was Putin's puppet?


He could nuke Moscow and the insane left would still believe it.
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AlexNguyen said:

Sort of would like to see Trump look at offshoring of jobs to places like India. It's becoming a regular occurence to see layoffs involving thousands of head count per incident/company. These are middle class jobs lost, supposedly the backbone of our society. I grew up a Reagan Republican and am generally sympathetic to laissez faire economics, but I also recognize the USA isn't a pure market and regulation, laws, and trade pacts greatly affect wages and prices.

Not sure letting the corporate giants do whatever they want is the way to go. That said, I don't think overregulating with a healthy side of polition corruption added in is correct either.

Got to make it compelling to keep jobs here.
Health care costs, ridiculous regulations, and taxes/fees (both Federal and state) are at least 3 reasons why its an easy decision to move jobs overseas.

On the positive side, we have great schools, immense talent, cognitive reasoning abilities, and a solid work ethic.
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deddog said:

AlexNguyen said:

Sort of would like to see Trump look at offshoring of jobs to places like India. It's becoming a regular occurence to see layoffs involving thousands of head count per incident/company. These are middle class jobs lost, supposedly the backbone of our society. I grew up a Reagan Republican and am generally sympathetic to laissez faire economics, but I also recognize the USA isn't a pure market and regulation, laws, and trade pacts greatly affect wages and prices.

Not sure letting the corporate giants do whatever they want is the way to go. That said, I don't think overregulating with a healthy side of polition corruption added in is correct either.

Got to make it compelling to keep jobs here.
Health care costs, ridiculous regulations, and taxes/fees (both Federal and state) are at least 3 reasons why its an easy decision to move jobs overseas.

On the positive side, we have great schools, immense talent, cognitive reasoning abilities, and a solid work ethic.

Nothing you say is incorrect. With that said, I think it is becoming a matter of national security to see so many jobs, products, and knowledge leak to other countries that definitely don't have the best interests of the USA in mind. I support what you said. I would also support some efforts along applying punitive measures towards off-shoring to give CEOs something to think about in their decisions.
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evestor1 said:

I wouldn't bat an eye cutting India and their visitors off.





Honestly some of the worst people in the world. A nation of nothing but scammers top to bottom.
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akm91 said:

Scruffy said:

He should have worked in "do the needful".

That phrase in emails cracks me up every time I read it


Funny enough anytime I'm working with Indian teammates and they aren't responding or producing I'll slip that phrase in and suddenly it gets fixed.
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Stone Choir said:

evestor1 said:

I wouldn't bat an eye cutting India and their visitors off.





Honestly some of the worst people in the world. A nation of nothing but scammers top to bottom.

They are taking over
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Prosperdick said:

But wait, I thought he was Putin's puppet?

Looks like a few weeks ago that he finally woke up to the fact that the Russians were playing him.

I think Putin/Russia has made a long term strategic blunder. They expanded their strategic goals from Crimea and the Donbass which Trump was willing to negotiate away to now the entirety of Ukraine. They want to eliminate the current Ukraine government and put in a pro-Russian puppet government making it a vassal state under Russia similar to Belarus.

So basically, Russia's goals have now morphed into something that has the highest probability of Western Ukraine fighting to the death to keep their independence, made it impossible to negotiate with the current Ukraine government, is the goal that freaks the EU out the most with a huge refugee crisis, and basically given Trump either choice A) A Fall of Saigon embarrassment that would severely damage his legacy and reputation domestically and internationally or choice B) Get tough with Russia.

So choice B for Trump it has to be. And Russia has now backed itself into a corner incurring tremendous cost in treasure and blood, that IMO will eventually be them having tried to buy too big of a house than they could afford. The idea that the Russians are buying into thinking they can completely suppress all of Western Ukraine and install their own puppet government, yanking the status of an independent country from millions of people's lives and think that is a doable goal that is going to end well is kind of crazy...but that is the corner they have backed themselves into now.
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To India - 'Greetings of the day'. Here's your tariff

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India buys current Russian stuff and we give Pakistan out of date F16s and Pakis still score on them.
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AlexNguyen said:

Sort of would like to see Trump look at offshoring of jobs to places like India. It's becoming a regular occurence to see layoffs involving thousands of head count per incident/company. These are middle class jobs lost, supposedly the backbone of our society. I grew up a Reagan Republican and am generally sympathetic to laissez faire economics, but I also recognize the USA isn't a pure market and regulation, laws, and trade pacts greatly affect wages and prices.

Not sure letting the corporate giants do whatever they want is the way to go. That said, I don't think overregulating with a healthy side of polition corruption added in is correct either.
I want to see a price tag for H-1B visas that ensures they're only used for exceptional skills. Want to give a domestic job to a foreigner? Fine and dandy: let's test how special they really are. Each H-1B now costs $50k/yr to the fed + any additional your state wants to require.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

AlexNguyen said:

Sort of would like to see Trump look at offshoring of jobs to places like India. It's becoming a regular occurence to see layoffs involving thousands of head count per incident/company. These are middle class jobs lost, supposedly the backbone of our society. I grew up a Reagan Republican and am generally sympathetic to laissez faire economics, but I also recognize the USA isn't a pure market and regulation, laws, and trade pacts greatly affect wages and prices.

Not sure letting the corporate giants do whatever they want is the way to go. That said, I don't think overregulating with a healthy side of polition corruption added in is correct either.
I want to see a price tag for H-1B visas that ensures they're only used for exceptional skills. Want to give a domestic job to a foreigner? Fine and dandy: let's test how special they really are. Each H-1B now costs $50k/yr to the fed + any additional your state wants to require.


It's a lottery, we are not getting the best
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agAngeldad said:

Stone Choir said:

evestor1 said:

I wouldn't bat an eye cutting India and their visitors off.





Honestly some of the worst people in the world. A nation of nothing but scammers top to bottom.

They are taking over


This often what happens when dishonest people move to a high trust society. They don't care about laws or morals and will lie, cheat, and steal to get ahead and then call the natives dumb for not doing the same.
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India for decades was the leader of the "non-aligned" nations meaning they pretended to be neutral between the Communist Soviet Warsaw Pact and NATO countries

they still mostly have a Soviet/Russian produced military.
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BlackGold said:

Squeezing BRICS in the process.

This is the real move. Trump puts pressure on Russia to the negotiating table with Ukraine, negotiates a better trade deal with India, and in doing so creates tension within their so called economic alliance that's going to supplant the U.S. (lol). Smart move.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

AlexNguyen said:

Sort of would like to see Trump look at offshoring of jobs to places like India. It's becoming a regular occurence to see layoffs involving thousands of head count per incident/company. These are middle class jobs lost, supposedly the backbone of our society. I grew up a Reagan Republican and am generally sympathetic to laissez faire economics, but I also recognize the USA isn't a pure market and regulation, laws, and trade pacts greatly affect wages and prices.

Not sure letting the corporate giants do whatever they want is the way to go. That said, I don't think overregulating with a healthy side of polition corruption added in is correct either.
I want to see a price tag for H-1B visas that ensures they're only used for exceptional skills. Want to give a domestic job to a foreigner? Fine and dandy: let's test how special they really are. Each H-1B now costs $50k/yr to the fed + any additional your state wants to require.
or reduce their visa quota by one for each US based worker which is terminated . Layoff 600 and lose 600 visas
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AlexNguyen said:

deddog said:

AlexNguyen said:

Sort of would like to see Trump look at offshoring of jobs to places like India. It's becoming a regular occurence to see layoffs involving thousands of head count per incident/company. These are middle class jobs lost, supposedly the backbone of our society. I grew up a Reagan Republican and am generally sympathetic to laissez faire economics, but I also recognize the USA isn't a pure market and regulation, laws, and trade pacts greatly affect wages and prices.

Not sure letting the corporate giants do whatever they want is the way to go. That said, I don't think overregulating with a healthy side of polition corruption added in is correct either.

Got to make it compelling to keep jobs here.
Health care costs, ridiculous regulations, and taxes/fees (both Federal and state) are at least 3 reasons why its an easy decision to move jobs overseas.

On the positive side, we have great schools, immense talent, cognitive reasoning abilities, and a solid work ethic.

Nothing you say is incorrect. With that said, I think it is becoming a matter of national security to see so many jobs, products, and knowledge leak to other countries that definitely don't have the best interests of the USA in mind. I support what you said. I would also support some efforts along applying punitive measures towards off-shoring to give CEOs something to think about in their decisions.

If you're doing work for the federal gov. (IE National Security), you are not allowed to off shore work to a foreign country.

But you have a point about offshoring knowledge that is not directly related to National Security.
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Scruffy said:

akm91 said:

Scruffy said:

He should have worked in "do the needful".

That phrase in emails cracks me up every time I read it


Funny enough anytime I'm working with Indian teammates and they aren't responding or producing I'll slip that phrase in and suddenly it gets fixed.

Nigerians and Indians: 2 groups no Customs officer likes to deal with. Trust me on that one.
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Logos Stick said:

Prosperdick said:

But wait, I thought he was Putin's puppet?


He could nuke Moscow and the insane left would still believe it.


They will put that narrative on hold now that it was proven Obama/Biden made it all up.

Well, knowing the left and their media, maybe not.
LOL OLD
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B-1 83 said:

Scruffy said:

akm91 said:

Scruffy said:

He should have worked in "do the needful".

That phrase in emails cracks me up every time I read it


Funny enough anytime I'm working with Indian teammates and they aren't responding or producing I'll slip that phrase in and suddenly it gets fixed.

Nigerians and Indians: 2 groups no Customs officer likes to deal with. Trust me on that one.

I can attest to this as well and concur. third place would go to Sierra Leone.
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People don't understand the cast system india was founded on, and how cheating, bartering, and getting the "desi" discount is just a way of life for them.

I always thought of it like the saying, "if you're not cheating, your not trying."
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Ag87H2O said:

BlackGold said:

Squeezing BRICS in the process.

This is the real move. Trump puts pressure on Russia to the negotiating table with Ukraine, negotiates a better trade deal with India, and in doing so creates tension within their so called economic alliance that's going to supplant the U.S. (lol). Smart move.

Two reasons:
- Russia (and Europe) are more reliable arms suppliers than we are (if you are a 3rd world country)
- There is a sizeable pro-Russia wing in the armed forces (from the weapons perspective) - Though India now has Apaches, C130s, P-8s, and Chinooks.
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2wealfth Man said:

Get Off My Lawn said:

AlexNguyen said:

Sort of would like to see Trump look at offshoring of jobs to places like India. It's becoming a regular occurence to see layoffs involving thousands of head count per incident/company. These are middle class jobs lost, supposedly the backbone of our society. I grew up a Reagan Republican and am generally sympathetic to laissez faire economics, but I also recognize the USA isn't a pure market and regulation, laws, and trade pacts greatly affect wages and prices.

Not sure letting the corporate giants do whatever they want is the way to go. That said, I don't think overregulating with a healthy side of polition corruption added in is correct either.

I want to see a price tag for H-1B visas that ensures they're only used for exceptional skills. Want to give a domestic job to a foreigner? Fine and dandy: let's test how special they really are. Each H-1B now costs $50k/yr to the fed + any additional your state wants to require.

or reduce their visa quota by one for each US based worker which is terminated . Layoff 600 and lose 600 visas

They'd just sub-contract, but still worth trying. Make the company feel pain from doing it.
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I know there is a huge Indian temple near my parent's neighborhood in Allen, TX.

I prefer the Indians to the Pakistanis or Hamas supporters.

but we should still crack down on the illegal ones.
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