Forget the job numbers... Trump is firing the lady

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Logos Stick
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Claims the numbers are being faked!

I love it!

Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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your fired !!!

and rightfully so
Illustrious Potentate
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New commissioner will know of at least one job lost on their first report.
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Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.
Gig 'Em
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Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.



C'mon man!

The massive revisions made last year - under Biden - and this year are completely unacceptable!

This lady has to go.
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Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.

Yeah, I remember when the BLS "adjusted" numbers after Obamas disastrous first debate and magically gave us the greatest job growth in 4 years between the 1st and 2nd debates.You probably bought that bull**** too.
That, plus the endless downward revisions after rosy projections pretty much every Biden quarter. They are political hacks. It's crazy that the Fed makes decisions on these sham numbers.
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Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.

Don't let facts get in the way of your narrative. Biden's numbers were always greatly overstated. Don't forget, inflation was transitory and by all traditional metrics we were in a recession two years prior to the election.
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This is what happens when you fail at your job.
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IslanderAg04 said:

This is what happens when you fail at your job.


No, it's what happens when your boss is a man-child who only wants to be surrounded by sycophants.
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Blame the tariff man not the data aggregator.
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Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.

lol. some people never learn.

Trump doesnt make this **** up. He gets briefed by people who make these kinds of assertions and he decides to run with it. His pundit surrogates will hit the cable news shows to explain in detail why he's right and how the Left is lying...again.
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Sid Farkas said:

Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.

lol. some people never learn.

Trump doesnt make this **** up. He gets briefed by people who make these kinds of assertions and he decides to run with it. His pundit surrogates will hit the cable news shows to explain in detail why he's right and how the Left is lying...again.

Trump makes **** up ALL THE TIME. To act like this isn't just another one of Don's distractions is naive...or, in other words, what we've come to expect from the fanbois.
Gig 'Em
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Anonymous Source said:

Sid Farkas said:

Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.

lol. some people never learn.

Trump doesnt make this **** up. He gets briefed by people who make these kinds of assertions and he decides to run with it. His pundit surrogates will hit the cable news shows to explain in detail why he's right and how the Left is lying...again.

Trump makes **** up ALL THE TIME. To act like this isn't just another one of Don's distractions is naive...or, in other words, what we've come to expect from the fanbois.

lol. scoreboard mofo.
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Making up/hiding data was/is a big thing with communist regimes. I imagine giving Kim Jong Un the accurate data on grain harvests would result in immediate execution.

Glad we're using this sort of thing as a template.
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I honestly am not sure who to believe on numbers out of our government institutions these days as there has been an ongoing and seemingly deliberate effort to inject political activism into the bureaucracy and then an aggressive backlash against that that have combined to make output questionable. We used to have a certain level of professional ethic in government bureaucracy and a pride in being neutral and objective or at least mostly attempting to do so, but that has been badly eroded.
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Trump makes **** up ALL THE TIME. To act like this isn't just another one of Don's distractions is naive...or, in other words, what we've come to expect from the fanbois.




Yeah, he really does go off the cuff. There is a lot of coverage of him blowing up the Swiss trade deal in the last few days single-handidly and the new 39% tariff just being made up on the spot.

But if you try hard enough . . .you can convince yourself their is some 4D chess maneuver being played. Really it is the Benny Hill music reverberating through the White House.

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He's such a childish D-bag. Way better than Brandon, Heels Up, Chicago Jesus, Autopen, and Hillary. Combined.
But a childish D-bag nonetheless.
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The economy is not booming
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Anonymous Source said:

Sid Farkas said:

Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.

lol. some people never learn.

Trump doesnt make this **** up. He gets briefed by people who make these kinds of assertions and he decides to run with it. His pundit surrogates will hit the cable news shows to explain in detail why he's right and how the Left is lying...again.

Trump makes **** up ALL THE TIME. To act like this isn't just another one of Don's distractions is naive...or, in other words, what we've come to expect from the fanbois.

Still doesn't make up as much **** as the BLS does.

You can tell the government folks are unhappy, because yet another democrat propaganda outlet is being terminated.
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Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.

I mean... clearly Biden appointees are going to be fair to Trump and never produce altered data that LIES. The Democrats are so very trustworthy. It's not like they would use the apparatus of the bureaucracy to undermine Trump OR public perception of Trump OR the economy itself in order to gain power back...... right?
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Why does Trump put his own name in quotes?

It's his name right?
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Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.
you do realize that you get fired in the private sector if you fail at your job?
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you do realize that you get fired in the private sector if you fail at your job?


She was not doing any better or worse than her predecessors in both Republican or Dem Administrations. It is an inherently volatile process based on surveys and those are prone to revision.

Trump just smells recessionary fallout from his tariff policy and is trying to make up scapegoats.
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She was not doing any better or worse than her predecessors in both Republican or Dem Administrations. It is an inherently volatile process based on surveys and those are prone to revision.

Trump just smells recessionary fallout from his tariff policy and is trying to make up scapegoats.

Yes she was. They were flat-out faking numbers during the Biden administration.
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Windy City Ag said:

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you do realize that you get fired in the private sector if you fail at your job?


She was not doing any better or worse than her predecessors in both Republican or Dem Administrations. It is an inherently volatile process based on surveys and those are prone to revision.

Trump just smells recessionary fallout from his tariff policy and is trying to make up scapegoats.

The pattern has been to give optimistic numbers during Democrat administrations, and revise them downwards later.
And to give bad numbers for Republican admins, and revise them upwards later.

The BLS leadership should have been gone after this bull****
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/130917-labor-secretary-insulted-by-claims-job-numbers-were-rigged/

They cooked numbers after Obama's disastrous first debate against Romney.
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Windy City Ag said:

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you do realize that you get fired in the private sector if you fail at your job?


She was not doing any better or worse than her predecessors in both Republican or Dem Administrations. It is an inherently volatile process based on surveys and those are prone to revision.

Trump just smells recessionary fallout from his tariff policy and is trying to make up scapegoats.

Why even have the BLS if you can't be accurate one ****ing time. It is an absolutely worthless agency, and its shocking to me that the Fed uses their numbers to make decisions.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

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She was not doing any better or worse than her predecessors in both Republican or Dem Administrations. It is an inherently volatile process based on surveys and those are prone to revision.

Trump just smells recessionary fallout from his tariff policy and is trying to make up scapegoats.

Yes she was. They were flat-out faking numbers during the Biden administration.

Other than the usual revisions...which every administration does...you're gonna need to show your work on these fake numbers and how you, who does not work in government, know unequivocally that they are fake.
Gig 'Em
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The real issue is that survey response rates have plummeted in the wake of the pandemic. Initial response rates are now under 60% so labor statisticians are getting noisier data and it is taking longer to fill out proper datasets, hence the bigger revisions

Flash reports were demanded by everyone as part of good government and both stock and bond markets would scream bloody murder if you walked them back but they deserve a re-think just like political polling models.
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Yesterday NPR had some lady on from the DOL trying to convince people that it was basically impossible to fudge the jobs numbers.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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She was not doing any better or worse than her predecessors in both Republican or Dem Administrations. It is an inherently volatile process based on surveys and those are prone to revision.

Trump just smells recessionary fallout from his tariff policy and is trying to make up scapegoats.

Yes she was. They were flat-out faking numbers during the Biden administration.

Gotcha, so the implication is that she cooked the books for Biden to make the numbers better? or she rigged the numbers against Trump?

B/c if she's simply reporting the 'real' numbers now that Biden is gone, is the new person supposed to cook the books for Trump? Is that the best case scenario for MAGA?

If Q3 has good numbers, wouldn't everyone assume it's only because they're being faked?

OR they're bad again in which case....is Trump going to fire the next person too?

This is insanity.
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Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.

Well here is the number I care about:

1.8mm jobs for Americans in the last 4 months. -1.5mm jobs for non-Americans. I expect that trend will continue.

I want overall workforce participation up... by Americans. I want non-Americans, those here illegally, to leave the workforce and the country. This cleans up our welfare rolls twice and improves the long term prospects for the whole country.

Please and thank you. And yes, it has long been suspected that the jobs numbers have been manipulated for political reasons. IIRC there was a 3 month stretch where the number didn't change which had a statistical probability so low that it would have been graded as a zero percent chance of happening on basically any table anywhere. And the revisions are so bad that the benchmarks are basically worthless.

So take all of this with a grain of salt. Even the numbers I'm happy about.
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[Keep trolling and take some time off -- Staff]
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Windy City Ag said:

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you do realize that you get fired in the private sector if you fail at your job?


She was not doing any better or worse than her predecessors in both Republican or Dem Administrations. It is an inherently volatile process based on surveys and those are prone to revision.

Trump just smells recessionary fallout from his tariff policy and is trying to make up scapegoats.

She did oversee the largest downward revision in history under Biden. That's not really a badge of honor.
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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Not surprised to see Dump blaming everyone but himself like he always does.
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