Forget the job numbers... Trump is firing the lady

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ts5641
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Good! Keep getting rid of every entrenched leftist bureaucrat.
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Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.

Weird take. The left does nothing but lie and it's been proven over and over again. But calling them out is playing the victim?
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Ellis Wyatt said:

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She was not doing any better or worse than her predecessors in both Republican or Dem Administrations. It is an inherently volatile process based on surveys and those are prone to revision.

Trump just smells recessionary fallout from his tariff policy and is trying to make up scapegoats.

Yes she was. They were flat-out faking numbers during the Biden administration.

How we coming on these?
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The accusation is both incompetence and manipulation, for both of those reasons she was fired. Kudlow and KellyAnne discussed this briefly at the top of his show. Her numbers were so bad and there was clear evidence they were using some numbers that had little faith in and other numbers they KNEW were incorrect and published them anyways.

Combined with 1 resignation at the Fed and another one coming shortly, and its been a productive day for Trump getting the naysayers out the way.
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So the conspiracy this time is that she purposely provided inflated numbers knowing that she'd…get to revise them and make Trump look bad? Why not just provide the actual bad numbers in the first place?
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At first, this appears to be low hanging fruit to criticize Trump. I'm sure MSM CNN and MSNBC and the like are all over it. Not listening to that crap anymore.

yeah, I've been burned on that a billion times. Not this time. Is it possible that an appointee doesn't like Trump and intentionally flubs the numbers to make him look bad? yes, it is.

Again, Trump gets the benefit of the doubt until PROVEN otherwise.
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I asked in the the other thread

but even under other presidents the numbers are always wildly off to the point of being meaningless

This whole department could probably be scrapped and reconstituted in a better way.

I'm alright with Trump firing her, more probably need to go
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

So the conspiracy this time is that she purposely provided inflated numbers knowing that she'd…get to revise them and make Trump look bad? Why not just provide the actual bad numbers in the first place?



Whoa, slow down there Cowboy.

Don't be throwing logic at these people.



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Nothing is ever his fault.
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GeorgiAg said:

Is it possible that an appointee doesn't like Trump and intentionally flubs the numbers to make him look bad? yes, it is.

Again, Trump gets the benefit of the doubt until PROVEN otherwise.

And somehow that was accomplished by releasing preliminary job reports that were better than expected and then subsequently revising them downwards?

When that happened under Biden, it was considered fudging the numbers to make him look better, not worse.

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AggieVictor10 said:

Nothing is ever his fault.

The problem with Trump's personality is that yes, that is his thing. He never accepts fault for anything ever. But when you push past his abrasive New Yorker personality and just focus on what he's done objectively, your view of him changes.

He's had win after win since he's been elected. The jury is still out on the impacts of tariffs, and we are NOT going to know the results for a long while. Tariffs are not a short term only deal. We are going to know the full impact of this for years to come. It may have some negative impacts short term, but if there are net positive impacts long term, that is another huge win.

Some moron flubbing the numbers -- she needs to be fired.
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It wasn't just the bad numbers today which may or may not be as bad but could be worse, its about the downward revisions for May and June and many months prior. Inaccuracy is why she is unemployed.

What makes this all worse in particular for Powell and friends, is that this is even MORE evidence Powell is getting it wrong and getting wrong on bad data.

But yea, this is Trump just being petty cause someone mad him look bad.

Man, the TDS is rampant everywhere. You don't even have to believe Trump here, common sense tells you this incompetent hoe had to goe.
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Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.


It's not paranoia if it's true. How many people shouted "Resist"?

And now we see the document releases showing that they truly did fabricate evidence against him.
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He needs to go out and get someone with more loyalty... I mean merit.
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There's no way jobs were this low. Why do liberals always lie?
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frenchtoast said:

There's no way jobs were this low. Why do liberals always lie?

that's how socialist regimes work.
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oh no said:

frenchtoast said:

There's no way jobs were this low. Why do liberals always lie?

that's how socialist regimes work.

Amen. Congress, the Supreme Court, and Executive branch are socialist to their rotten core.
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amercer said:

Why does Trump put his own name in quotes?

It's his name right?

It's a brand now. And I like this brand compared to Mamala, Obamala, and Hairy leg biden
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Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.

Jobs numbers have been heavily manipulated for years, they are a joke at this point. Between revisions and who they count as employed/unemployed it is barely worth looking at as a meaningful number. That's been the case long before Trump.
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aezmvp said:

Anonymous Source said:

Bad news? Must be the messenger. Can't be Trump.
Always the victim. Always somebody out to get him.

Well here is the number I care about:

1.8mm jobs for Americans in the last 4 months. -1.5mm jobs for non-Americans. I expect that trend will continue.

I want overall workforce participation up... by Americans. I want non-Americans, those here illegally, to leave the workforce and the country. This cleans up our welfare rolls twice and improves the long term prospects for the whole country.

Please and thank you. And yes, it has long been suspected that the jobs numbers have been manipulated for political reasons. IIRC there was a 3 month stretch where the number didn't change which had a statistical probability so low that it would have been graded as a zero percent chance of happening on basically any table anywhere. And the revisions are so bad that the benchmarks are basically worthless.

So take all of this with a grain of salt. Even the numbers I'm happy about.


Not a single post like this one from reslibs. It's all blame Trump blame Trump blame Trump blame Trump yada blah blah yada. Feelz and TDS.
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GeorgiAg said:

At first, this appears to be low hanging fruit to criticize Trump. I'm sure MSM CNN and MSNBC and the like are all over it. Not listening to that crap anymore.

yeah, I've been burned on that a billion times. Not this time. Is it possible that an appointee doesn't like Trump and intentionally flubs the numbers to make him look bad? yes, it is.

Again, Trump gets the benefit of the doubt until PROVEN otherwise.

So she inflated employment numbers earlier this summer to make Trump look bad later? lol
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She was fired for having no ****ing clue what the numbers were and presented numbers knowing they were not correct and were not reliable.

That's why she was fired.
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Lady should be fired for past performance. Better late than never.

I have no idea what current numbers are or how accurately they can realistically be tracked. It seems employment numbers should come with some kind of confidence interval rather than a specific number implying false precision.


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HTownAg98
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Seems like there's lots of people that don't know how the numbers are calculated, and what goes into revising the numbers.

And yes, the lack of participation in the survey data is a huge cause as to why the numbers get revised in wider swings now.
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Matt Hooper said:

Lady should be fired for past performance. Better late than never.

I have no idea what current numbers are or how accurately they can realistically be tracked. It seems employment numbers should come with some kind of confidence interval rather than a specific number implying false precision.




So you want her fired for past performance, but have no idea how the numbers are calculated. This tracks.
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HTownAg98 said:

Matt Hooper said:

Lady should be fired for past performance. Better late than never.

I have no idea what current numbers are or how accurately they can realistically be tracked. It seems employment numbers should come with some kind of confidence interval rather than a specific number implying false precision.




So you want her fired for past performance, but have no idea how the numbers are calculated. This tracks.


A poster on TexAgs having no idea how the numbers are calculated is not a fireable offense. The head of the bureau responsible for calculating the numbers at a national level, particular given its impact on markets, fed decisions, economic policy, that person should have a ****in clue about the numbers.

She did not, so she is now calculating her unemployment check.
HTownAg98
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That's funny that you actually think that why she was fired. Anyone that understands how these numbers are run knows the real reason why.

It can't possibly be because businesses are reluctant to hire people because of possible tariffs. Nope, can't be that at all.
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Best president in our lifetimes. Crazy how entitled the leftist lunatics are. No one in a meritocracy should be paid an executive salary for failure and fraud. Keep winning Mr. President.
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flown-the-coop said:

HTownAg98 said:

Matt Hooper said:

Lady should be fired for past performance. Better late than never.

I have no idea what current numbers are or how accurately they can realistically be tracked. It seems employment numbers should come with some kind of confidence interval rather than a specific number implying false precision.




So you want her fired for past performance, but have no idea how the numbers are calculated. This tracks.


A poster on TexAgs having no idea how the numbers are calculated is not a fireable offense. The head of the bureau responsible for calculating the numbers at a national level, particular given its impact on markets, fed decisions, economic policy, that person should have a ****in clue about the numbers.

She did not, so she is now calculating her unemployment check.


Got any proof she was fired because she didn't know how to calculate the numbers, aside from the word of your God Emperor who can't stand to have anybody around him who isn't a sycophant? Or do you just "feel" that's the reason she was let go?
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Funny. Her overstating the numbers in May and June were disastrous for Trump.

You need to take the TDS helmet off and think a bit outside the I hate Trump box.

Her getting the numbers wrong the last two months have Jerome just enough cover to hold steady on rates and still seem "independent".

That torqued Trump way more than just a bad number today and revisions downward. It cost him a talking point t against Powell.

But as is typical, this manipulation by the left and squishy guys like Powell always seems to come back around on them.
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I didn't like what my scale told me, so I threw it away. Never mind what you actually see, I am svelte!
Gig 'Em
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I for one don't need any more proof that every Dem bureaucrat hack will do anything humanly possible to make Trump look bad. Everything they know and worship is riding on this WH failing.

If appointed by a Dem, there's a 99% chance they have TDS and are working behind the scenes to undermine him.

Yes our president is a thin-skinned, yankee blowhard a-hole (much of the time) but he keeps proving time after time that he is right. He's fixing so much of this mess.

For those of you all lathered up, a friendly reminder that you only have 3 years and 5 months to go.
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Trump will just keep firing people until somebody gives him the numbers he wants. Nothing new here.
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