Trump and Putin to meet face to face next week

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Bulldog73
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Trump apparently going to double up while in Alaska.
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-heads-to-alaska-to-negotiate-historic-truce-between-humans-bears
nortex97
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Kiev regime strikes apartments as expected:

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These incidents are not isolated. They fit into a larger operational and political pattern: each time high-level talks are scheduled Kiev steps up attacks on Russian regions. The results are the same: civilian deaths, destruction of civilian infrastructure, and an attempt to create a cloud over the diplomatic process.

The same happened in late May and early June 2025, just before the second round of RussiaUkraine talks in Istanbul, when two bridges in Russian territory were blown up. The attacks killed seven civilians and injured over seventy more.

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Why Alaska is different
Against this backdrop, Moscow views the Alaska talks as uniquely promising not because they will magically end the war in one session, but because of who is not at the table. Neither Zelensky nor the EU will be present. Instead, the discussions will be between Putin and Trump, leaders who, in Moscow's reading, operate from a position of pragmatic realism.

That realism includes acknowledging Russia's current battlefield advantages. Moscow believes it is winning the war, and that any serious settlement will reflect that balance of power. For the Kremlin, the likely outcome is that Ukraine will have to give up some or all of the contested territories a step Zelensky would fiercely resist, and the EU would likely block outright if they were part of the talks.

Without them, however, such a settlement becomes more feasible. The logic is straightforward: first, Putin and Trump agree on the framework; then, Trump leverages Washington's decisive influence over Kiev to bring Zelensky on board. In Moscow's calculus, this is where Trump's role is crucial. Without American military and financial support, Kiev would not have been able to sustain the war effort for nearly as long as it has.

Putin compliments 'energetic' Trump ahead of summit.
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On those next steps, President Trump said if the meeting with Putin goes well it is possible the two leaders will stage a joint press-conference. If things do not go well, he said he'd host a solo one to explain what had happened to the world media, before immediately flying back to Washington D.C..

He said: "depending on what happens with my meeting, I'm going to be calling up President Zelensky and let's get him over to wherever we're going to meet. I don't know where we're going to have the second meeting, but we have an idea of three different locations. Including the possibility, because it would be by far the easiest, of staying in Alaska."

He continued: "It would certainly be convenient if we had a very good meeting, I'm going to let them negotiate their deal, I'm not going to negotiate their deal… If it's a bad meeting, I'm not calling anybody. I'm going home… But if it's a good meeting, I'm going to call President Zelensky and the European leaders".

Peace in our time.
nortex97
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Exactly as predicted.
TexAgs91
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Maybe he wants his country back?

I know he probably doesn't stand a chance, but there's something to be said for the never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never attitude
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
Ad Lunam
GeeBee
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A healthy cocaine habit can make one feel invincible.
Krombopulos Michael
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Setting up low expectations or just telling the truth?

Actual results for the meeting were DOA from the get go. Putin stated his terms. Zelensky stated his. Neither are going to budge.

IMO Trump is doing this so he can say he tried to get peace and walk away from the whole conflict. Once this is over he can tell the EU/Davos it's 100% your problem now.

The big question down the line is whether or not the EU will try something incredibly stupid like putting in "peace keepers" into Kiev when the Russians roll up to the Dnieper AND then demand the US to participate....
J. Walter Weatherman
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Did Russia take the week off from bombing Ukrainian apartment buildings or did that continue?
Krombopulos Michael
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Russian trolling by Lavrov to start the meeting......This is going to be a real **** show. Get your popcorn.


FIDO_Ags
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Exactly as predicted


You're silence when Russian drones hit civilian buildings in Ukraine speaks volumes.
nortex97
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(Podcast on rumble linked; youtube):


Trump left Andrew's only a couple hours ago, so I would expect a tight timeline around 1 CST.
docb
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Every one of those Russian fckrs should be arrested.
ChrisTAMU
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What an absolutely brain dead, childish take.
Yukon Cornelius
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Russia and the US should be allies.
docb
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ChrisTAMU said:

What an absolutely brain dead, childish take.

I guess you approve invading a sovereign country and murdering it's people?
Yukon Cornelius
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Talking about Iraq?
Rossticus
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nortex97 said:


Exactly as predicted.


When was the last time MTG lamented a Russian missile/drone attack on Ukraine? I'd wager never. The double standard some folks have is asinine. And Putin's terms aren't for a compromise towards negotiated peace, they're for full capitulation. Peace through surrender. Which is equally unreasonable to expecting Russia to abandon all Ukrainian lands that they've invaded.
ChrisTAMU
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Arresting visitors from a nuclear state during peace negotiations on our soil. That's the precedent you want to set? Surely, you're joking.
docb
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Talking about Iraq?

Oh yea I almost forgot about some of the people we deal with on this board
Rockdoc
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ChrisTAMU said:

Arresting visitors from a nuclear state during peace negotiations on our soil. That's the precedent you want to set? Surely, you're joking.

No, check his posting history. You'll understand.
ChrisTAMU
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Truly, unbelievable.
Jack Ruby
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docb said:

Every one of those Russian fckrs should be arrested.


And then what?
nortex97
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Good.
Waffledynamics
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FIDO_Ags said:

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Exactly as predicted


You're silence when Russian drones hit civilian buildings in Ukraine speaks volumes.


Again, and again, and again.
Krombopulos Michael
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Don't worry Zelensky fan boys, you're going to get the war you've always wanted with Russia. The Russians would be insane to allow NATO peace keepers to enter the chat.

The City of London bankers have been pulling this kind of crap for 100s of years......They need another war to keep the financial system rolling and never forget, to profit from the arms sales.


Yukon Cornelius
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Young british men into the meat grinder. Muslim third worlders into the young british girls.
Jbob04
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Geez I can't stand the Ukraine bros on F16. Truly an embarrassment
nortex97
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Waffledynamics said:

FIDO_Ags said:

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Exactly as predicted


You're silence when Russian drones hit civilian buildings in Ukraine speaks volumes.


Again, and again, and again.

It's just…false. I noted the horrific images of kids etc. from Russian strikes just a couple weeks ago.
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3539552/replies/70596454
The issue is that I don't see Kiev as 'the good team/righteousness,' so I don't feel a need to put such proclamations in bold or on repeat (and of course Kiev ludicrously claims to down something like 95% of Russian drones so who knows what the Russians are targeting half the time).

I also try not to post 'war porn' links/images of people dying etc. as though I am an excited spectator in some kind of Hunger Games movie. Oh, and my tax dollars aren't being used (to my knowledge) to send the Russians bombs/missiles/intelligence/targeting data, just another small difference (vs. funding both sides in for example Israel v. Hamas. I guess technically we helped fund some of the Iranian munitions industry over the years, which wound up going via components to Russia. Thanks Obama/John F Kerry/Biden.)
nortex97
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Young british men into the meat grinder.

Please.

London has all of…wait for it, 20-25 tanks. This is not the British Army of 1943, or 1916, or any other year. No "Old Contemptible's" with ranks of combat-experienced soldiers exist for the Union Jack. Starmer may want to sound like Churchill this year, but the cold hard reality is they have practically zero deployable combat forces to send to Kiev.

Maybe a company-size element. They can't even protect their refueling aircraft (A330's) on the tarmac back in the UK from their jihadists.
docb
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nortex97 said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

Young british men into the meat grinder.

Please.

London has all of…wait for it, 20-25 tanks. This is not the British Army of 1943, or 1916, or any other year. No "Old Contemptible's" with ranks of combat-experienced soldiers exist for the Union Jack. Starmer may want to sound like Churchill this year, but the cold hard reality is they have practically zero deployable combat forces to send to Kiev.

Maybe a company-size element. They can't even protect their refueling aircraft (A330's) on the tarmac back in the UK from their jihadists.

Well that's good because I don't know how they'd provide air cover with tanks.
Im Gipper
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Nortex97: MTG & Barnes? Cmon Man! You are better than that!

I'm Gipper
Sq 17
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Peacekeepers are there as a trip wire not as a deterrent. IF a ceasefire happens and Europe wants it to be honored then Europeans will have to be in harms way. European Soldiers probably guarantee that Putin honors the ceasefire. If he breaks the ceasefire and kills English Polish and French Soldiers NATO would push Russia all the way back to the 2021 borders
akaggie05
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AF1 just landed at Elmendorf, with a C-32 right behind it. Looks like Putin's IL-96 is a few minutes out. Two E-3s in the area as well.
Maroon Dawn
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TexAgs91 said:

Maybe he wants his country back?

I know he probably doesn't stand a chance, but there's something to be said for the never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never attitude


Ok I get that, but Russia already stole Crimea during Obama's term and no one is even mentioning it. It's Russian territory now and Ukraine isn't even attempting to get it back.

They aren't getting Donbas back.

But that doesn't mean they aren't getting nothing. Russia should only get Donbas in return for guarantees that recognize Ukraines right to exist and right to enter into treaties for mutual defense (if not NATO then European peacekeepers)

If Putin won't do that then keep bleeding his military until he will
AgsMnn
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samurai_science
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TexAgs91 said:

Maybe he wants his country back?

I know he probably doesn't stand a chance, but there's something to be said for the never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never attitude

He is free to pay for his own war
 
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