Trump and Putin to meet face to face next week

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Houston Lee
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I think the big sticking point was the cease fire. Or maybe Trump wants the original copy of the pee tapes…
aginlakeway
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SA68AG said:

Meeting was a bust.


How do you know that? How could it be a bust if any positive progress was made?

Maybe wait and hear more before stating is was a bust?
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The fact that they did not announce a ceasefire, did not take any questions from the press, and the body language was cold and not real happy, at least on Trump's part, is it good indication that this was probably not a major success.
sam callahan
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Liberals and the Military Industrial Complex rejoice!

The war continues!
Ag with kids
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P.H. Dexippus said:

A little different from the last time Putin did sightseeing with a POTUS.


I don't see Reagan's Chief of Staff in that pic...and when did he get promoted?
japantiger
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I'm reminded of the first Regan and Gorbachev meeting....sometimes it takes time.

Just like during the Cold War, it's better to be talking

I've worked in and visited both countries....I have friends in both. I would like to see an agreement to stop the killing
aginlakeway
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4 said:

The fact that they did not announce a ceasefire, did not take any questions from the press, and the body language was cold and not real happy, at least on Trump's part, is it good indication that this was probably not a major success.


Any success means it wasn't a bust. IMO.
UhOhNoAgTag
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Just tell me when I can buy Russian vodka again
nortex97
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It's probably an issue that no ceasefire/sanctions/oil-gas exploration agreement was reached. Not surprising, really, but disappointing of course. The Biden proxy-war hawks will celebrate, undoubtedly.

I suspect we are closer to an end than the war caucus will admit though. The question is whether Kiev will insist on continuing.
japantiger
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UhOhNoAgTag said:

Just tell me when I can buy Russian vodka again

Russian Standard Platinum...best vodka in the world
Sq 17
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4 said:

The fact that they did not announce a ceasefire, did not take any questions from the press, and the body language was cold and not real happy, at least on Trump's part, is it good indication that this was probably not a major success.


Body language looked like a parent teacher conference where nobody wanted to be there and they really had nothing to go over
FrozenInYesterday
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Found it interesting that Trump called out the Russian delegation for being almost as famous as the boss, especially one. Was that Lavrov who wore the CCCP sweater? Is Lavrov causing the hold up on the "major" point?
SA68AG
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aginlakeway said:

SA68AG said:

Meeting was a bust.


How do you know that? How could it be a bust if any positive progress was made?

Maybe wait and hear more before stating is was a bust?

There was no mention of a cease fire or even progress toward a cease fire. For me that's a complete bust.

"Being close" to a deal with Putin is not being close to anything.

Putin is clearly stringing things out to move further into Ukraine.

Trump needs to implement sanctions immediately. That's the only thing that's going to move the needle with Putin.
FireAg
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Not watching presser, but news reporting they have an agreement on some things and made significant progress…
Yukon Cornelius
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Is it at all possible they don't want to broadcast what was agreed upon until talking with Zelensky? Probably best to give this some time before determining if it was successful or not.
The Kraken
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fc2112 said:

Putin dragging his balls over Joe Biden.

If Trump had been president, the war wouldn't have happened.


Stroking Trump's ego.
bam02
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FireAg said:

Not watching presser, but news reporting they have an agreement on some things and made significant progress…


No no no no no. No mention of solving man-made global warming or systemic racism. Complete bust!
aginlakeway
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SA68AG said:

aginlakeway said:

SA68AG said:

Meeting was a bust.


How do you know that? How could it be a bust if any positive progress was made?

Maybe wait and hear more before stating is was a bust?

There was no mention of a cease fire or even progress toward a cease fire. For me that's complete bust.

"Being close" to a deal with Putin is not being close to anything.

Putin is clearly stringing things out to move further into Ukraine.

Trump needs to implement sanctions immediately. That's the only thing that's going to move the needle with Putin.


Agree to disagree. Any progress means it's not a bust. IMO. And we have no idea what was discussed.

We'll see what happens next. I think Fox is interviewing Trump later. Glad they're talking rather than not talking.
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EX TEXASEX said:

I could also see him saying " Sorry about that Vlad. These fighter jocks are just like teenage boys,They asked if they could do a flyby and I told them no , and they still do it anyway. " !!!

Somehow, I don't think any of those folks in the planes will be looking for the number of Truck Master anytime soon...
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Sq 17
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Not sure anything can be " agreed upon " without talking to Zelensky

Maybe this is part of a complicated ceasefire really looks like Putin trying to avoid sanctions and Trump trying to make something happen without going all in to help Ukraine
P.U.T.U
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How can there be a peace deal when only one of the sides is at the meeting? Trump confirmed the next step is he will talk to Zelensky and NATO
aginlakeway
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P.U.T.U said:

How can there be a peace deal when only one of the sides is at the meeting? Trump confirmed the next step is he will talk to Zelensky and NATO


Yep. Not complicated.
4stringAg
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Biden just said "Don't" and went back to ****ting his diaper. At least Trump is trying to broker a resolution to this quagmire and today's meeting gives him one more data point towards possible actions to achieve that.
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Old Army Ghost
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P.U.T.U said:

How can there be a peace deal when only one of the sides is at the meeting? Trump confirmed the next step is he will talk to Zelensky and NATO
nato is america and her friends sk what we so goes and ukraone cant do anything without us
Old Army has gone to hell.
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That is GOLD
Waffledynamics
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Moscow makes the decision on continuing, not Kyiv.
Yukon Cornelius
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Saw a video of them after the speech's yucking it up. I think progress likely has been made but they won't disclose anything yet.
docb
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I'm not sure what to think of that meeting but I think Putin is going to have to take more of a beating financially before any real peace comes.
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I'll offer this:

If somebody ultimately blows a peace deal, it will be Zelensky.

That guy is a moron.
FlyRod
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annie88 said:

Oh wow two world leaders meeting. Shocking.

And yeah, yeah yeah about what's been going on but still. I'm sure the left will go bonkers over this.


Not this one. This is very normal stuff if you lived through the Cold War. U.S. presidents were meeting with Brezhnev while the Soviets were directly contributing to killing U.S. servicemen in Vietnam.

It's gross, but that's politics.
Yukon Cornelius
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There's a video of them after the speeches laughing and saying goodbye.
TexAgs91
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[We've given several timeouts for personal attacks. Keep the discussion to the meeting between Trump and Putin. If the personal attacks continue, so will the bans. There's your warning -- Staff]
74Ag1
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Meeting was a "10"
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