H1B Holder's Non-American Kids To Lose Legal Status After 21

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So what this means is that if a child of an H1B holder, not born in the US, turns 21 before their parents green card is approved, they are no longer "dependents". Their H4 (dependent) visa expires. This makes them "out of status", hence illegal (so ban on re-entry).

The children of H1Bs born in the US are safe for now (pending birthright citizenship ruling)

Good.

Time to pack up and go back home. America is NOT your home. You are an unwanted guest. Stop pretending that you have the right to stay here forever. Off you go.

H1Bs from India who have children not born in the US are out of luck. It takes decades to a century to get off the backlog.

Green Card Applicants' Kids May Lose Legal Status After Trump Admin Move
https://www.newsweek.com/h1b-green-card-applicants-children-protections-change-trump-administration-2111075
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Children of H-1B visa holders may now age out of their protected legal status while their parents apply for green cards, under a Trump administration policy change announced Friday.
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced that it was reversing a Biden administration policy that prevented young adults from losing their legal status if a parent's application was still pending when their children reached age 21.


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Why It Matters
Around 200,000 children and young adults could be affected by the change, which comes amid a flurry of alterations at the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS) to bring policies in line with President Donald Trump's directives to tighten immigration controls.

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What To Know
The USCIS policy change affects those who fall under the Child Status Protection Act (CSPA), which the administration of former President Joe Biden had allowed in February 2023 to apply to some children as soon as their parents became eligible to apply for a green card.
That meant that even if they "aged out" during the wait for a green card, they would not lose legal status.
On Friday, the Trump administration rolled those extensions back, saying that CSPA protections would once again only apply when a visa becomes available via the Department of State. USCIS said this would create a more consistent approach for those applying for adjustment of status and immigrant visas.
With long wait times for adjustment of status applications, particularly for H-1B and other temporary visa holders, this could now mean that when a dependent child turns 21, they lose their legal status and may have to leave the U.S., even if they have lived in the country for most or all of their lives.
Doug Rand, a DHS official during the Biden administration, said that many of those children would be American to their core, but would now be forced to the back of the line for a green card.

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There's just no end to the treacherous policies to be reverse, is there?
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I voted for that!
TA-OP
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While I don't agree with eliminating birthright citizenship, but if thats where SCOTUS goes, then it shouldn't be retroactive.
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Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)
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TA-OP said:

While I don't agree with eliminating birthright citizenship, but if thats where SCOTUS goes, then it shouldn't be retroactive.

Curious as to why. It's a relic of the past largely created to help former slaves by overturning the Dred Scott decision. With that said it's not really needed anymore and too many people take advantage of it. At least one parent should need to be a citizen for their kid to have it IMO.
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deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


21 year olds are not kids.
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deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)

Perhaps but let's be honest a 21 year old is not a "kid".
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deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


I agree with you. I want this to be done humanely.

But I think H1B parents of their H4 kids will end up leaving as well.
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Ozzy Osbourne said:

deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


21 year olds are not kids.


My son turns 21 tomorrow and he seems like a kid to me. I don't think I can just leave him here and permanently move to another country if I had to.
But then maybe it is because I am not used to the idea....? Not sure what to think about this.
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Ok separating perrfectly legal families is not kosher. Have the ****kng balls to say no H1s
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deddog said:

Ok separating perrfectly legal families is not kosher. Have the ****kng balls to say no H1s


100%

We have enough inhumanity in corporate America where people throw others out of a job just to make their multi million dollar bonuses. I hope we don't do that as a country. However H1Bs need to go.
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I don't see this affecting many people.

Most H-1Bs are right out of school, either without kids or kids that are very small. I've never known an H-1B to not get a green card within five years. I've never known one to bring over an almost fully-grown child.
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What are yall talking about. They're 21. Get off the tit.
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Maybe that's sending a message to India after they committed to keep buying Russian oil. Probably just a new negotiating point for the administration to have in their toolbox.
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infinity ag said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


21 year olds are not kids.


My son turns 21 tomorrow and he seems like a kid to me. I don't think I can just leave him here and permanently move to another country if I had to.
But then maybe it is because I am not used to the idea....? Not sure what to think about this.


sounds like a you issue
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deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)

Sure it is.

We arrest people with kids all the time for felonious acts and put them in jail. To my knowledge, we don't imprison their kids with them.
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deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


They're 21. They aren't "kids"
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TexasAggie_97 said:

TA-OP said:

While I don't agree with eliminating birthright citizenship, but if thats where SCOTUS goes, then it shouldn't be retroactive.

Curious as to why. It's a relic of the past largely created to help former slaves by overturning the Dred Scott decision. With that said it's not really needed anymore and too many people take advantage of it. At least one parent should need to be a citizen for their kid to have it IMO.
Because mass denaturalization of documented American citizens seems like a power I don't want the government to have… surprised that had to be clarified.
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So will this help TAMU start honoring its mandate to educate the students of Texas first?
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infinity ag said:


But I think H1B parents of their H4 kids will end up leaving as well.


Your terms are acceptable!

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infinity ag said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


21 year olds are not kids.


My son turns 21 tomorrow and he seems like a kid to me. I don't think I can just leave him here and permanently move to another country if I had to.
But then maybe it is because I am not used to the idea....? Not sure what to think about this.

Then you're free to leave along with him, in your scenario.

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MookieBlaylock said:

infinity ag said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


21 year olds are not kids.


My son turns 21 tomorrow and he seems like a kid to me. I don't think I can just leave him here and permanently move to another country if I had to.
But then maybe it is because I am not used to the idea....? Not sure what to think about this.


sounds like a you issue



possible. I'm just telling you what I feel about it right now. He can start a full time job but not sure he can manage with no elders in the country. Who knows.
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BigRobSA said:

infinity ag said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


21 year olds are not kids.


My son turns 21 tomorrow and he seems like a kid to me. I don't think I can just leave him here and permanently move to another country if I had to.
But then maybe it is because I am not used to the idea....? Not sure what to think about this.

Then you're free to leave along with him, in your scenario.




hmm thank god then that I was born in the great state of Texas!
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They are going to have to draw the line somewhere, and when they do, many will not be happy.
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BigRobSA said:

infinity ag said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


21 year olds are not kids.


My son turns 21 tomorrow and he seems like a kid to me. I don't think I can just leave him here and permanently move to another country if I had to.
But then maybe it is because I am not used to the idea....? Not sure what to think about this.

Then you're free to leave along with him, in your scenario.



My oldest daughter turns 38 next month and she still seems like a kid to me...

But, that's Einstein's theory of relativity for you...
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infinity ag said:

MookieBlaylock said:

infinity ag said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


21 year olds are not kids.


My son turns 21 tomorrow and he seems like a kid to me. I don't think I can just leave him here and permanently move to another country if I had to.
But then maybe it is because I am not used to the idea....? Not sure what to think about this.


sounds like a you issue



possible. I'm just telling you what I feel about it right now. He can start a full time job but not sure he can manage with no elders in the country. Who knows.

All nine of my kids were out and on their own at 21.

Why can't your kid do the same?
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Ag with kids said:

infinity ag said:

MookieBlaylock said:

infinity ag said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


21 year olds are not kids.


My son turns 21 tomorrow and he seems like a kid to me. I don't think I can just leave him here and permanently move to another country if I had to.
But then maybe it is because I am not used to the idea....? Not sure what to think about this.


sounds like a you issue



possible. I'm just telling you what I feel about it right now. He can start a full time job but not sure he can manage with no elders in the country. Who knows.

All nine of my kids were out and on their own at 21.

Why can't your kid do the same?


Username checks out
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Ag with kids said:

infinity ag said:

MookieBlaylock said:

infinity ag said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


21 year olds are not kids.


My son turns 21 tomorrow and he seems like a kid to me. I don't think I can just leave him here and permanently move to another country if I had to.
But then maybe it is because I am not used to the idea....? Not sure what to think about this.


sounds like a you issue



possible. I'm just telling you what I feel about it right now. He can start a full time job but not sure he can manage with no elders in the country. Who knows.

All nine of my kids were out and on their own at 21.

Why can't your kid do the same?


Maybe he can.
But what happened is all you Boomers got us into a a terrible economy with your mismanagement and with all our jobs sold out to low-cost foreigners so that you all could pad your 401ks. He goes to a Top 5 US university for Computer Science, but it still is a struggle to get a job even though he had several internships at several known companies. All his peers are having the same problem. This summer, he's doing 2 internships at the same time - one in the office and one remotely, so he is busy all the time.

So when he gets a job which hopefully should happen in some months, he will be out on his own. Until then I will support him.
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Good! Get rid of every loophole.
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Ag with kids said:

BigRobSA said:

infinity ag said:

Ozzy Osbourne said:

deddog said:

Separating parents from kids is not what America is about.

Just have the balls to get rid of H1s already. ( or my preference - be very selective)


21 year olds are not kids.


My son turns 21 tomorrow and he seems like a kid to me. I don't think I can just leave him here and permanently move to another country if I had to.
But then maybe it is because I am not used to the idea....? Not sure what to think about this.

Then you're free to leave along with him, in your scenario.



My oldest daughter turns 38 next month and she still seems like a kid to me...

But, that's Einstein's theory of relativity for you...


Same here. Both of mine in their 30's and I just can't believe they're married, homeowners, have children, etc. Life is weird like that.
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My philosophy was inherited from my father and goes like this: At the age of eighteen all kids must depart. They can go to work, to the military, or to college they help pay for, but the non-negotiable word is GO. It is a really fine policy for everyone, the parents and the kids.
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The military "separates" families all the time and ships 18 year olds to foreign lands.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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