Turning Point USA Halftime Show lineup is out

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HTownAg98
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oh no said:



Let me tell you a story about the song "Macarena" by Los Del Rio.
Old McDonald
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two of the funniest things to come out of this alternate performance:

1) tpusa bungling the licensing agreements so badly that they had to pull the performance from twitter at the last minute, meaning they couldn't use Elon's bot farms to juice the viewership numbers like they planned to

2) culture warriors backing themselves into the corner of having to pretend to be excited to watch the corpse of kid rock on their phones at halftime
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HTownAg98 said:

oh no said:



Let me tell you a story about the song "Macarena" by Los Del Rio.


Macarena got popular I think because of a catchy beat with a relatively easy line dance..

But yes I also recall later hearing someone asking the lines of , "Uhhh, have any of y'all ever bothered to translate it? It's not good!"
HTownAg98
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Along with a side of Ashlee Simpson level bad lip syncing.
oh no
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two of the funniest things to come out of this alternate performance:

1) communists bending over backwards to attempt to justify the viewership numbers and obsessing over their fantasies about Elon Musk bot farms.

2) culture warriors going out of their way to demean and ridicule the alternate show they pretended to not care about by deflecting from the foreign language show they didn't understand and making fun of kid rock's age.

4stringAg
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Super Bowl halftime shows have basically become a mini broadway musical rather than a mini-concert. the last two halftime shows have basically been the same thing, a guy walking around talking into a mic while a few hundred backup dancers move around in unison. Based on that clip inside the stadium it sounded like the acoustics were not great and most couldn't make heads or tails over it so I guess it comes across better on TV than in person. I mean, if you like broadway musical productions, you probably enjoyed it regardless of language. Regardless, they are impressive productions given how quick that they have to get them set up and torn down.
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We should go back to college marching bands headlining the halftime show
3rd Generation Ag
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I would have watched it if they had managed some true big names from pop, country or Christian.
Ag CPA
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Y'all are trying so hard; it's ok to admit that Kid Rock sucks.
HTownAg98
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Moe Jzyslak said:

We should go back to college marching bands headlining the halftime show


That comment is worthy of a ban.
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Ag CPA said:

Y'all are trying so hard; it's ok to admit that Kid Rock sucks.



actually he has a great voice. but to each his own
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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Satellite of Love said:

ts5641 said:

FatZilla said:

Whos the chello and violin duo?

And YT stream is starting to lag, lets crash the server due to too many viewers!

I thought that was really nice actually. Classed things up a bit. So much nicer than seeing a Spanish speaking, American hating POS.

Is he a POS? Does he hate the US? Last night's show was a call to unity.

Actually the message seemed to be that America includes all of the countries in the Western Hemisphere and that the US is just part of that, he was trying to use common themes from the US to apply to all of "America" even though we are culturally very different and . Oh, and while singing in Spanish with lyrics that were about sex acts that make WAP and Mo Bamba look tame. Very unifying. He does have a religious context to his songs as well so I guess we can give him credit for that, though he did slightly tone done the lyrics to this song for the Super Bowl.

"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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Teslag said:

TA-OP said:

Jett01 said:

If Kid Rock can sing about Jesus and Nicki Minaj can support Trump….I think we can make it.

Kid Rock also sings about diddling kids and women choking on his junk, but you do wholesome you.


Songs about wanting teen girls is unfortunately as old as rock and roll itself. Don't be a dufus and pretend Kid Rock is on an island for 20 year old lyrics.

BB King's "Sixteen", Roy Orbison's "Almost Eighteen", Chuck Berry's "Little Queenie", Bo Diddley's "Little Girl", Elvis's "Hey Little Girl", The Beatles "Saw Her Standing There" and "Little Child" and on.

Wanna cancel grown men artists that sing songs about underage girls then you better get ready to start at the very top of rock and roll history.

You left Winger off the list? How dare you!

Kip Winger? Greatest chest hair in the history of rock and roll?

Quote:

She said
I'm only seventeen (seventeen)
I'll show you love like you've never seen
She's only seventeen (seventeen)
Daddy says she's too young
But she's old enough for me




aggie93
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Ag CPA said:

Y'all are trying so hard; it's ok to admit that Kid Rock sucks.

Not a big Kid Rock fan outside of "All Summer Long" which unfortunately he didn't play, probably because it has some pretty direct references to sex, drugs, and drinking even if they aren't in an explicit way (Making love out by the lake, smoking funny things, drinking whisky out the bottle). The song is still just about looking back at youth and coming of age I can relate to in the pre internet era. He's become Born Again and ended the show with an evangelical message and singing with an acoustic guitar on stage which was nice.

Overall the show was ok. I would rather the show not have been quite so religious in nature but that's core to TPUSA so that's fine. The production value was decent but not great. Kid Rock's lip synching was bad in his his first song. The flow was off going from really mellow to really high energy too fast and back and forth, typically you go from more mellow to higher energy but this one kind of bounced too much.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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4stringAg said:

Super Bowl halftime shows have basically become a mini broadway musical rather than a mini-concert. the last two halftime shows have basically been the same thing, a guy walking around talking into a mic while a few hundred backup dancers move around in unison.

It's become a formula that is no longer about the performance, it's about creating a big display (lights, props, dancers..kinda, big production), making some kind of forced 'statement', getting eyeballs (controversy), and selling products.
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Old McDonald said:

two of the funniest things to come out of this alternate performance:

1) tpusa bungling the licensing agreements so badly that they had to pull the performance from twitter at the last minute, meaning they couldn't use Elon's bot farms to juice the viewership numbers like they planned to

2) culture warriors backing themselves into the corner of having to pretend to be excited to watch the corpse of kid rock on their phones at halftime

It just cracks me up when libs use this.

Elon cleaning up the bots is why so many of their mouthpieces suddenly lost followers. And they lost their minds over it.
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Quote:

We should go back to college marching bands headlining the halftime show

It wouldn't make any money, but since SB halftime lasts about 30 minutes I love to see some decent marching bands.

Maybe mix it up a bit and have three bands from different styles perform:

FTAB (obviously)
Ohio State (or one of the other fun B1G bands, but not Oregon, their band sucks)
PVU/Grambling or other HBCU bands just because they are loud and fun to watch (as long as you ignore all the twerking)

I would say some DCI bands, but that's only a summer things and they likely couldn't get a show together for February.

It's only a pipe dream and the sidelines and security would be a complete nightmare but I can hope can't I?
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SpreadsheetAg said:



Those numbers may justify an on-going alternative halftime show. Sweet!
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Moe Jzyslak said:

We should go back to college marching bands headlining the halftime show


That I would agree with!
would love to see the Aggie band do that show where they have 4 lines intertwining in the middle of the field…
awesome to watch!
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Old McDonald said:

two of the funniest things to come out of this alternate performance:

1) tpusa bungling the licensing agreements so badly that they had to pull the performance from twitter at the last minute, meaning they couldn't use Elon's bot farms to juice the viewership numbers like they planned to

2) culture warriors backing themselves into the corner of having to pretend to be excited to watch the corpse of kid rock on their phones at halftime


Guess your to "old" to figure out how to get it on TV.
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Gigem314 said:

4stringAg said:

Super Bowl halftime shows have basically become a mini broadway musical rather than a mini-concert. the last two halftime shows have basically been the same thing, a guy walking around talking into a mic while a few hundred backup dancers move around in unison.

It's become a formula that is no longer about the performance, it's about creating a big display (lights, props, dancers..kinda, big production), making some kind of forced 'statement', getting eyeballs (controversy), and selling products.

I think that's partly true for concerts in general. The production value for a concert has sky rocketed. I took my nephew to see Playboi Carti last year and they had two Semi trucks drive out into the pit area to create part of a platform stage. He also had full size pickup trucks on the floor with smoke cannons and dancers on them. I also saw Chappell Roan last fall and she had a pretty elaborate set as well with multiple costume changes and set design.


As far as Bud Bunny's show last night:


I'm familiar with a bit of his music but don't speak enough Spanish to understand it. Much like Selena even if I don't understand it, I still enjoy it ( el chico del apartamento 512 is probably my favorite regardless of the lyrics).

I really liked the design of the show. The forced perspective, quick set changes, and costume changes made it feel like I was watching a music video. It felt pretty unique from that perspective. The wedding portion was really cool and felt like a super bowl halftime show while some of the parts in the reeds and cane felt like it was straight out of In The Heights.

I do have one minor complaint. There were a few portions were he just sang with a simple drum beat backing and no other music or vocals. The song he was singing at the time wasn't super melodic and came across like he was was just speaking instead of singing. A minor critique, but I think it just fell a little flat for me.

There was obviously a ton of symbolism if you are looking for it. A lot of the things featured were cultural touchstones for immigrants, Puerto Ricans, and Americans (there's always a kid asleep on some chairs at a wedding). He finished by saying "God Bless America" and then brought out every flag in the Americas North, Central, and South (even Canada was represented). The jumbotron displayed a message of "The only thing more powerful than hate is love" and he held up a football that said "Together, we are America." I think that if someone is taking that message as a slight or shot at them, maybe they need to rethink their priorities. Overall I thought it was good and nice change of pace.
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dreyOO said:

SpreadsheetAg said:



Those numbers may justify an on-going alternative halftime show. Sweet!

Wife and I were part of the 10M viewers...

Loved the line up...loved the show...

Glad I skipped the rabbit...
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StandUpforAmerica said:



Brad's point is so dumb.

Pander to 11% of the country? Why?

How about instead, we simply expect all cultures who immigrate here to assimilate?
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Ag CPA said:

Y'all are trying so hard; it's ok to admit that Kid Rock sucks.

His cover of "Til You Can't" was really good. It also appears like he is rebranding (or whatever they call it in the music industry) to his actual name of Robert Ritchie.
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nai06 said:

I think that's partly true for concerts in general. The production value for a concert has sky rocketed. I took my nephew to see Playboi Carti last year and they had two Semi trucks drive out into the pit area to create part of a platform stage. He also had full size pickup trucks on the floor with smoke cannons and dancers on them. I also saw Chappell Roan last fall and she had a pretty elaborate set as well with multiple costume changes and set design.

I don't think rap concerts are an accurate sample size of concerts in general though. For certain genres, yes there's more pressure to provide visual entertainment. But for others, it's about the musicians on stage and not the props. Obviously the SB doesn't focus on musicianship, they want flash and entertainment...hence the reason it's mostly become rap stars and the occasional pop star.

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There was obviously a ton of symbolism if you are looking for it. A lot of the things featured were cultural touchstones for immigrants, Puerto Ricans, and Americans (there's always a kid asleep on some chairs at a wedding). He finished by saying "God Bless America" and then brought out every flag in the Americas North, Central, and South (even Canada was represented). The jumbotron displayed a message of "The only thing more powerful than hate is love" and he held up a football that said "Together, we are America." I think that if someone is taking that message as a slight or shot at them, maybe they need to rethink their priorities. Overall I thought it was good and nice change of pace.

They certainly packed it with symbolism, I'm just not sure a lot of audiences found it as compelling or authentic as some are making it out to be. It wasn't mean spirited (some of his music has a reputation for it) so they were wise to tone it down for the SB. But, like most productions that these things have turned into, they were trying too hard with the forced messaging. It felt like an answer in search of a problem.
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BTKAG97 said:

Ag CPA said:

Y'all are trying so hard; it's ok to admit that Kid Rock sucks.

His cover of "Til You Can't" was really good. It also appears like he is rebranding (or whatever they call it in the music industry) to his actual name of Robert Ritchie.

Good for him. He has a good voice for country music. I always thought that, even with his early stuff where he'd put out 1-2 token songs on his album where he wasn't rapping and screaming. It felt like that was more authentically him than the 'Kid Rock' persona.
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AgGrad99 said:

StandUpforAmerica said:



Brad's point is so dumb.

Pander to 11% of the country? Why?

How about instead, we simply expect all cultures who immigrate here to assimilate?

The decision was made for $$$$$. It had to do with the NFL wanting to expand its reach in the Latino communities around the world. NFL wants to capture the large number of soccer fans from around the world. It was a business decision.
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Gigem314 said:

BTKAG97 said:

Ag CPA said:

Y'all are trying so hard; it's ok to admit that Kid Rock sucks.

His cover of "Til You Can't" was really good. It also appears like he is rebranding (or whatever they call it in the music industry) to his actual name of Robert Ritchie.

Good for him. He has a good voice for country music. I always thought that, even with his early stuff where he'd put out 1-2 token songs on his album where he wasn't rapping and screaming. It felt like that was more authentically him than the 'Kid Rock' persona.

Just downloaded his version of Till you Can't. The studio version is worth the listen.
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murphyag said:

AgGrad99 said:

StandUpforAmerica said:



Brad's point is so dumb.

Pander to 11% of the country? Why?

How about instead, we simply expect all cultures who immigrate here to assimilate?

The decision was made for $$$$$. It had to do with the NFL wanting to expand its reach in the Latino communities around the world. NFL wants to capture the large number of soccer fans from around the world. It was a business decision.

And the simps who want nothing more than to be considered nice and caring by everyone lapped it up like a pig in slop.
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murphyag said:

AgGrad99 said:

StandUpforAmerica said:



Brad's point is so dumb.

Pander to 11% of the country? Why?

How about instead, we simply expect all cultures who immigrate here to assimilate?

The decision was made for $$$$$. It had to do with the NFL wanting to expand its reach in the Latino communities around the world. NFL wants to capture the large number of soccer fans from around the world. It was a business decision.



Understood. That wasn't Brad's point though.
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aggie93 said:





But but but… don't you know kid rock is old? And don't you know an obscure kid rock song from almost 30 years ago wasn't family friendly either?
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Tree Hugger said:

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We should go back to college marching bands headlining the halftime show

It wouldn't make any money, but since SB halftime lasts about 30 minutes I love to see some decent marching bands.

Maybe mix it up a bit and have three bands from different styles perform:

FTAB (obviously)
Ohio State (or one of the other fun B1G bands, but not Oregon, their band sucks)
PVU/Grambling or other HBCU bands just because they are loud and fun to watch (as long as you ignore all the twerking)

I would say some DCI bands, but that's only a summer things and they likely couldn't get a show together for February.

It's only a pipe dream and the sidelines and security would be a complete nightmare but I can hope can't I?

Having marching bands at half time is what lead to the alternative half time shows and then the modern Super Bowl productions. If I had my way, I'd like to see performers that were actual musicians, but most of those sucked (Springsteen and The Who, I'm looking at you two). But I'm about as likely to get my way as you are as long as Jay-Z is in charge of the halftime show.
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Ferg said:



And of the TVs that stayed tuned in, how many of them just had the channel on but weren't actually watching the show and were distracted doing other things while they waited for the 2nd half to start?

Thing that is encouraging about the TPUSA numbers…you had to actively change over to it, which means the numbers they report were people actively watching that show…

The NFL really screwed up…
 
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