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Ai roofing machine. Doesn't take much imagination to realize our world is changing dramatically. Denial will just delay adaptation.

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Another nice proof of concept, this actually looks like it has potential, what does it cost? Has this moved beyond POC, is it commercially available?

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Signel said:

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What happens when that bot can change an alternator or wire up a 220v circuit in your garage? What happens when companies realize they can run 24/7 workforces that don't need much guidance or even pay?

In my estimation, we are likely 3 to 5 years away from full on AI and Robotic replacement for 60% to 80% of the entire world's workforce.

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Automation doesn't just happen out of the blue, it takes years to develop. There's nothing that exists today that even suggests any of that is on the horizon.

Take residential construction, for instance. Where's automation being introduced? There's nothing automated when pouring concrete or framing a home.

My BIL can barely read or write but he has managed to build a lucrative HVAC business. Somehow he managed to secure a deal with one of the largest manufactured home sellers in North Texas. They sell a **** ton to Choctaw Nation in Southern Oklahoma. Those installations are stupid easy, everything is basically sold as a kit. Now he has a Hispanic crew doing 8-10 installs a week, on each installation he makes 500 bucks, they make 500 bucks and everybody is happy. All he does is service calls, which is largely warranty work.

Point being, automation doesn't just happen, it is incrementally implemented. Until I see that incremental automation happening, I'm calling bull**** on your premise.

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3 years ago in your backyard by a fellow Aggie

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Nice proof of concept, where is this tech actually being used? BYW, what's going to cover that ugly as **** facade?

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But didn't engineers and architects still design all of that? Won't they make the mods and improvements? Who's on site, and engineer or a blue collar worker?

I would recommend that they work on developing AI or robotics.

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ntxVol said:

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Chetos said:

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ntxVol said:

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What happens when that bot can change an alternator or wire up a 220v circuit in your garage? What happens when companies realize they can run 24/7 workforces that don't need much guidance or even pay?

In my estimation, we are likely 3 to 5 years away from full on AI and Robotic replacement for 60% to 80% of the entire world's workforce.

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Automation doesn't just happen out of the blue, it takes years to develop. There's nothing that exists today that even suggests any of that is on the horizon.

Take residential construction, for instance. Where's automation being introduced? There's nothing automated when pouring concrete or framing a home.

My BIL can barely read or write but he has managed to build a lucrative HVAC business. Somehow he managed to secure a deal with one of the largest manufactured home sellers in North Texas. They sell a **** ton to Choctaw Nation in Southern Oklahoma. Those installations are stupid easy, everything is basically sold as a kit. Now he has a Hispanic crew doing 8-10 installs a week, on each installation he makes 500 bucks, they make 500 bucks and everybody is happy. All he does is service calls, which is largely warranty work.

Point being, automation doesn't just happen, it is incrementally implemented. Until I see that incremental automation happening, I'm calling bull**** on your premise.

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3 years ago in your backyard by a fellow Aggie

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Nice proof of concept, where is this tech actually being used? BYW, what's going to cover that ugly as **** facade?

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But didn't engineers and architects still design all of that? Won't they make the mods and improvements? Who's on site, and engineer or a blue collar worker?

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I can absolutely guarantee there is no AI involved in the design or implementation!

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In my estimation, we are likely 3 to 5 years away from full on AI and Robotic replacement for 60% to 80% of the entire world's workforce.

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The technology may very well be here, but people will not be ready for that change. That will take a generation for humans to hand their lives over to robots.

By 2055, I think most manual jobs will also be taken over by AI-bots.

I've gone back to school late in my career and it's been a huge shock to me how easily an internet search for research will just slap all the answers right in front of you in a second.

Pursuing Data Analytics.

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I've gone back to school late in my career and it's been a huge shock to me how easily an internet search for research will just slap all the answers right in front of you in a second.

Pursuing Data Analytics.

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You may want to rethink that. That's an application ripe for AI.

Absolutely correct. Analytics can be looked at many ways, but the key components are: 1) looking at data and understanding it, 2) figure out how it is relevant for your customer, 3) and telling that story.

AI is already better at 1 and 3, and getting much better at 2.

There are going to be analyst jobs, but most companies won't need nearly as many as are employed now. And the opportunity for junior analyst (or new college grad) will be limited the most.

So if you love it and are VERY good, I'd say stick with it but realize it is likely to be an uphill climb.

my .02.

Interested discussion. I think we just reenacted the "move my cheese" book.

Agree, but by and large, folks are looking ahead and question in OP is how to guide the younger generation. For so long it's been college for those excelling academically….yes, I know colleges including A&M have significant young adults who did not and have not excelled academically. This discussion started for those that have excelled academically and proven to be in the top 10% of students in the country.

Funny, I was just thinking about creating this same thread. I have one kid in 3rd grade, one in 6th, and an 8th grader currently picking high school courses. They're all pretty smart and good at math and sciences. For a lot of years, if you had kids that were good at STEM you pushed them that direction, and they would probably do well. Now it's scary as hell not knowing for sure where to lead them.

Personally, I've made a living buying and selling real estate and managing my own rent houses. I suspect at least one of my kids will follow along in that. I can see it being at least partially insulated form AI. AI can analyze markets and deals for you, but sellers and tenants are always going to want to interact with another human. Theres also a certain amount of street hustling, business sense and gut decision making that I don't see AI being able to replicate. When do you let a tenant slide on rent vs filing an eviction? When does a stove need to be replaced vs the tenant just wants a new stove? It's just basic business but it takes a humans decision making. It's all part of turning $10s into $20s and AI wont be able to do that any time soon.

Where I see AI affecting a lot of things is in evening the playing field amongst humans. Making all people in a given field more equal. People with specialized skills begin to no longer stand out. For many years, you had to be a good photographer with some artistic skills to take good pictures. Then came the digital camera and photo editing software and 25 years later, everyone takes great pictures. For many years, it took real skills to be a good persuasive writer. Now chatgpt can make any dum-dum sound like they know what they're talking about. Instead of seeing doctors eliminated, I expect to see all doctors become more equal. It will be harder for the good ones to distinguish themselves. It no longer takes the smartest doctor to find a diagnosis. It just takes any old doctor plugging in the data and getting back the same diagnosis and treatment plan. But, there still needs to be someone there doing the exam. There will be a whole lot of that before we see these fields eliminated entirely. The sad part of all of that is we'll be killing off part of what makes us human. Removing the incentive to excel and innovate.

If unknown future wanted demand obtaining engineering degree better employment opportunity with the respect across all industries, don't even need to get licensed. Or if direct interest, support any pre professional degree. If cannot influence best options do not dissuade college. Point is get the kid in college, keep'em outta the real world for 4 additional years to enter world with a sword. Even if it a small stupid liberal arts sword...still a sword.

There's the safe path and the likely right path. Safe says college. Likely right path is start earning now, skip college, focus on going to the college of AI and learn how to use the tools. Build for yourself

14-30 year olds are probably gonna have a pretty rough time (middle of the range especially so). 0-13 year olds will probably be fine. Tell them to learn guitar or pottery or something relaxing.

Very interesting comment, and as a dad with an 11 year old son and 7 year old daughter, really insightful.

I've got a few years to figure it out (I naively tell myself), but how strange it is to have to navigate these things with your kids when things are changing at an ever-increasing pace.

Things were much simpler when my parents gave me guidance.

I could tell my kids what I thought was the "right thing to do" tomorrow, and in two years, that plan could potentially be blown to shreds.

The State of Texas better get on the ball and bring back VOTECH high schools.

Plumbers, electricians, mechanics, HVAC techs, carpenters, etc... cannot be replaced by AI (yet?). These jobs pay well and are always in demand.

I literally wouldn't know where to begin. You better at least make you kids intimately familiar with AI and how it works so they can be a part of it rather than looking in from the outside.
Oh and learn to weld.

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Kids? This is going to affect everyone, and very very quickly. I am expecting unemployment numbers to tick up through 2026 and get really bad in 2027 with major impacts on any information type of jobs (including software and white collar jobs sitting behind a computer).

In the early 2030s even most physical/manual jobs will be able to be done by humanoid or specialist robots. Including plumbers and electricians and mechanics....

People and society are not prepared....how could they be?

Even if you have a bunch of money saved, what is the value of that money if the economy is cratered? People aren't working, not paying taxes, have no money to put into the economy....

The futuristic ideal of "abundance" is possible on paper, but the process to get there from here has the potential to be quite dystopian and tragic.

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Good lord that's depressing!

WWII memorabilia is always a safe spot to apply units.

Ammo = the currency of the robot controlled future

Unless you want a Robocop scenario I'd say police work is safe.

Robo roofer is going to get his ass kicked by 10 illegals roofing.

The other thing I would do is tell your kids to identify as Indian.

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Marry someone who is already rich is about the best advice I can give a young person right now.

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Have you been giving my step daughter advice? Because this is her philosophy.

Kozmozag said:

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Robo roofer is going to get his ass kicked by 10 illegals roofing.

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New Christmas song?

10 illegals roofing
9 cartels killing
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I see this going towards an expertise in the efficient architecture of building AI agents as the company's operational backbone being the critical skill to have in the future.

You'll need to know how to build and leverage AI agents to expedite/automate tasks and easily expose critical business insights across various software platforms your Org uses daily, and how to efficiently scale those Agents as the business grows.

Much like the still critical skill of writing clean, readable, and efficient code that can be easily scaled up has meant big bucks in Silicon Valley if you could do that, so too will be the skill of architecting AI agents in the same way.

Then, there will be people who "manage" those agents, too. Ensuring they have the proper data access, personalities for content generation/customer interactions, errors are logged and debugged, etc.

I think the "end of the world" scenarios are over done, but I do also think that as noted earlier that lots of jobs that required a person in front of a screen will be replaced by AI to some degree.

The truth is in the middle somewhere, but where AI closes some doors I believe it will open others that may be pretty cool and well paying.

I see AI being very useful in assembling information, analyzing data, and performing calculations. In the way that being able to search the internet opened us up to immediate access to all the world's information, AI will be able to aggregate that information and communicate it in usable ways. But I see, at least hopefully, we leave the decision making to humans. Let AI provide the information and provide suggestions or recommendations, let it be a tool to make humans more capable and productive. My concern with that is it will breed laziness and dependence, the computer said it so it must be true. But I think humans possess better insight and discretion.

Manual labor is a different area. Robotics are advancing to do things humans can do, sure. But there will be times when it's cheaper to let humans do it. And overall I think we'll see robots working alongside humans, where the human can tell the robot what to do and the robot can do the things that are hazardous or require more precision or dexterity or strength or endurance or handling harsh elements. There's a huge leap between being able to do physical tasks and thinking, planning, troubleshooting, and making decisions.

To the original OP, if we're talking about early careers for school age kids today, we need to try to forecast where things will be in 10-30 years. Yes, AI and robotics will make some jobs obsolete (I wouldn't tell any kids to get into driving semis) and it will reduce the headcount in other areas. But it will also create new jobs that don't exist. And overall, again I think at least for the next couple of generations AI and robotics will work alongside humans and make humans more productive and capable. So how do we prepare our kids to be the ones smart enough and capable enough to still add value in that process? Memorizing facts isn't useful any more. Critical thinking, logic, and problem solving are. Now, more than ever, we need to make sure our kids are learning HOW to think more than WHAT to think.