Massie is worse than John McCain

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The grift continues.
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Is Liz Cheney still alive? Maybe he can get her to join as his running mate. Make their whole platform J6, TDS, and hate for Israel.
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Add in MTG and the Cryin RINO along with Tillis, Cornyn, Cassidy and it's quite the formidable breakout party.

Tons of charisma and leadership and the world's best policies according to some.
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The amazing part to me is watching Cornyn still playing up his work with Trump in his ads, even after Trump endorsed his opponent. These same people who despise the guy and are doing everything they can to subvert his agenda are shameless enough to pretend to love working with him for the sake of their commercials and their re-election hopes. Massie hyping how often he did vote with Trump is just part of that game. When the key votes came about and Trump and the party asked for his support, he wasn't there. And he didn't have the political wisdom to just sit quietly in his office about it, he went out and appeared publicly with democrats while doing it. Just terribly unsmart political posturing for somebody elected in a district that heavily supported Trump.
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Massie being Massie...

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TAMUallen said:

Massie being Massie...




Going to laugh my ass off when his big donors turn out to be AIPAC and Adelson.
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His biggest donor was already a zionist (Jeff Yass).

Dude is not taking the L well.
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can all the dummies supporting this grifter explain how years ago Massie STATED HE WOULD ONLY SERVE A FEW TERMS

now seven terms later, after being defeated, he is running again for political office.

but libertarian!

literally everything this guy says and does is a sham
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It has something to do with his principles and commitment to true conservatism (but not libertarianism) for sure.

There has to be a very simple answer here.
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LMCane said:

can all the dummies supporting this grifter explain how years ago Massie STATED HE WOULD ONLY SERVE A FEW TERMS

now seven terms later, after being defeated, he is running again for political office.

but libertarian!

literally everything this guy says and does is a sham


You know, I dont mind him as a Libertarian. HOWEVER, he had been elected as a republican by his voters to do republican things and not to become the anti Israel, banging Boebert, weird knock off piss poor copy of Rand Paul
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flown-the-coop said:

It has something to do with his principles and commitment to true conservatism (but not libertarianism) for sure.

There has to be a very simple answer here.


Petulance and narcissism. He has great ideas but lacks the skill and wisdom to deal with not getting his way.
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TAMUallen said:

LMCane said:

can all the dummies supporting this grifter explain how years ago Massie STATED HE WOULD ONLY SERVE A FEW TERMS

now seven terms later, after being defeated, he is running again for political office.

but libertarian!

literally everything this guy says and does is a sham


You know, I dont mind him as a Libertarian. HOWEVER, he had been elected as a republican by his voters to do republican things and not to become the anti Israel, banging Boebert, weird knock off piss poor copy of Rand Paul

Randy will generally comply when it really matters but if he has a chance to make an inconsequential protest votes (more like his father did).

Massie decided he was the most important member of the GOP though not a single dole wanted him to be that for appreciated hi trying to be that. And now he is on his way out.
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I'm Gipper
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Teslag said:

And that "cheap trick" does work, which is why Massie will be sitting his "principled" ass at home next year.

And that's why Cleveland Rocks!
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

Of course you do because Trump said so. (I Voted for Trump, it's ok to disagree on things with him)

And I agree but we all know Biden wasn't going to push to release it. But Trump could've just released it and a good majority of this blow back wouldn't have happened but he decided to die on the hill of defending the Epstein files.

And Massie did mention prior to the Trump admin. He has stated he was under the impression everything would be released when he got in office but when that didn't happen he pushed for it. I don't see how that is a negative on wanting to get transparency on something like this.

Epstein being tied to powerful individuals in the world is undeniable and is by no means a "Democratic hoax"

Oh bull *****

I always thought the Epstein **** was stupid.

Yes, he was a bad guy that did bad things. Yes he knew a lot of rich/powerful-ish people.

But for the entire GOP to be up in arms about it - WHILE the Democrats fan the flames, because they gave zero ****s about it until they realized they could make it a political tool to spin up a big chunk of the MAGA right - is dumb as ****.

It's not a big conspiracy theory. It's not JFK/grassy knoll level ***** It's not 9/11 truther level ***** It's not the Illuminati and the Rothschilds level *****

And it NEVER was.

Trump played it up because his base was passionate about it. Just like he did with the Hillary "Lock Her UP" ***** It made the base happy.

Of course, in Trump 1.0, he dropped the Hillary thing and the base just let it fade away.

I honestly think he was expecting the same reaction to dropping the Epstein files.

BTW, Massie didn't care about the Epstein **** until Trump started pushing it. If he was SO gung ho about it, why wasn't he attacking the Biden administration the way he did the Trump administration - The Biden administration had the same ****ing information...
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nortex97 said:

Such a scam artist.

To the surprise of...no one.

Very odd that someone that originally ran on term limits would do this...
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samurai_science said:

Bulldog73 said:

A list of Massie votes which were at least arguably anti-conservative-
May 2013, voted against the Stolen Valor Act of 2013
November 2016, voted against an extension of U.S. sanctions against Iran
April 2017, he expressed skepticism over the role of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad in the 2017 Khan Shaykhun chemical attack.
May 2017, voted against sanctions on North Korea.
March 2019, voted to override Trump's veto of a measure unwinding Trump's declaration of a national emergency at the southern border
2019 sent letters to Trump telling him to end unauthorized military action in Afghanistan and to end support of Saudis against the Houthis.
July 2019, voted against a House resolution opposing efforts to boycott Israel and the Global Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement
November 2019, voted no on the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019
December 2019, voted against the Uighur Intervention and Global Humanitarian Unified Response (UIGHUR) Act
December 2021, voted against the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act
September 2021, voted against $1 billion of funding for Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system.
May 2022, voted against a non-binding resolution denouncing antisemitism and opposition to Israel.
2025, voted against the One Big Beautiful Bill Act and Full-Year Continuing Appropriations and Extensions Act, 2025. He never sponsored a recission bill to remove the overspending he claimed to have found.
July 2025, despite having never mentioning Epstein files during Biden administration, Massie introduced a discharge petition alongside Democratic representative Ro Khanna to force a vote on a law to compel the release of the Epstein files.
February 2026, Massie grandstands with Khanna identifying 6 unrelated individuals as being Epstein associates.


In summation, Massie has been a consistent opponent to Israel, a consistent advocate for Iran and despots throughout the world, especially of the Muslim kind, and an attention *****.


Syria was better with Assad, so he got that right.

Well, as long as you weren't a Syrian in Syria, this is true...
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TAMUallen said:

LMCane said:

can all the dummies supporting this grifter explain how years ago Massie STATED HE WOULD ONLY SERVE A FEW TERMS

now seven terms later, after being defeated, he is running again for political office.

but libertarian!

literally everything this guy says and does is a sham


You know, I dont mind him as a Libertarian. HOWEVER, he had been elected as a republican by his voters to do republican things and not to become the anti Israel, banging Boebert, weird knock off piss poor copy of Rand Paul

I will give him a pass for banging Boebert.

I would too if given the chance (theoretically).
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Ag with kids said:

samurai_science said:

Bulldog73 said:

A list of Massie votes which were at least arguably anti-conservative-
May 2013, voted against the Stolen Valor Act of 2013
November 2016, voted against an extension of U.S. sanctions against Iran
April 2017, he expressed skepticism over the role of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad in the 2017 Khan Shaykhun chemical attack.
May 2017, voted against sanctions on North Korea.
March 2019, voted to override Trump's veto of a measure unwinding Trump's declaration of a national emergency at the southern border
2019 sent letters to Trump telling him to end unauthorized military action in Afghanistan and to end support of Saudis against the Houthis.
July 2019, voted against a House resolution opposing efforts to boycott Israel and the Global Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement
November 2019, voted no on the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019
December 2019, voted against the Uighur Intervention and Global Humanitarian Unified Response (UIGHUR) Act
December 2021, voted against the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act
September 2021, voted against $1 billion of funding for Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system.
May 2022, voted against a non-binding resolution denouncing antisemitism and opposition to Israel.
2025, voted against the One Big Beautiful Bill Act and Full-Year Continuing Appropriations and Extensions Act, 2025. He never sponsored a recission bill to remove the overspending he claimed to have found.
July 2025, despite having never mentioning Epstein files during Biden administration, Massie introduced a discharge petition alongside Democratic representative Ro Khanna to force a vote on a law to compel the release of the Epstein files.
February 2026, Massie grandstands with Khanna identifying 6 unrelated individuals as being Epstein associates.


In summation, Massie has been a consistent opponent to Israel, a consistent advocate for Iran and despots throughout the world, especially of the Muslim kind, and an attention *****.


Syria was better with Assad, so he got that right.

Well, as long as you weren't a Syrian in Syria, this is true...

It actually was better for the average Syrian, I would know. Supporting sunni and foreign fighters during the civil war really helped out the average Syrian live a peaceful life.

But your right, its much better now with mass murders of Syrian Christians and other Syrians. Having pro sunni ISIS/AL Qaeda leaders is certainly a beacon for peace and stability. LOL John McCain sure did love the Al Qaeda fighters

Syria was stable before with Assad, that is fact, which is good for the SURROUIDING countries. The middle east runs better with dictators.
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samurai_science said:

Ag with kids said:

samurai_science said:

Bulldog73 said:

A list of Massie votes which were at least arguably anti-conservative-
May 2013, voted against the Stolen Valor Act of 2013
November 2016, voted against an extension of U.S. sanctions against Iran
April 2017, he expressed skepticism over the role of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad in the 2017 Khan Shaykhun chemical attack.
May 2017, voted against sanctions on North Korea.
March 2019, voted to override Trump's veto of a measure unwinding Trump's declaration of a national emergency at the southern border
2019 sent letters to Trump telling him to end unauthorized military action in Afghanistan and to end support of Saudis against the Houthis.
July 2019, voted against a House resolution opposing efforts to boycott Israel and the Global Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement
November 2019, voted no on the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019
December 2019, voted against the Uighur Intervention and Global Humanitarian Unified Response (UIGHUR) Act
December 2021, voted against the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act
September 2021, voted against $1 billion of funding for Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system.
May 2022, voted against a non-binding resolution denouncing antisemitism and opposition to Israel.
2025, voted against the One Big Beautiful Bill Act and Full-Year Continuing Appropriations and Extensions Act, 2025. He never sponsored a recission bill to remove the overspending he claimed to have found.
July 2025, despite having never mentioning Epstein files during Biden administration, Massie introduced a discharge petition alongside Democratic representative Ro Khanna to force a vote on a law to compel the release of the Epstein files.
February 2026, Massie grandstands with Khanna identifying 6 unrelated individuals as being Epstein associates.


In summation, Massie has been a consistent opponent to Israel, a consistent advocate for Iran and despots throughout the world, especially of the Muslim kind, and an attention *****.


Syria was better with Assad, so he got that right.

Well, as long as you weren't a Syrian in Syria, this is true...

It actually was better for the average Syrian, I would know.

But your right, its much better now with mass murders of Syrian Christians and other Syrians. Having pro sunni ISIS/ALQaeda leaders is certainly a beacon for peace and stability. LOL

Syria was stable before with Assad, that is fact, which is good for the SURROUIDING countries. The middle east runs better with dictators.

Well, when dictators kill everyone that even slightly gets out of line, I suppose that helps with the stability.

By the same token, the USSR was better off when Stalin was running it...
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Ag with kids said:

samurai_science said:

Ag with kids said:

samurai_science said:

Bulldog73 said:

A list of Massie votes which were at least arguably anti-conservative-
May 2013, voted against the Stolen Valor Act of 2013
November 2016, voted against an extension of U.S. sanctions against Iran
April 2017, he expressed skepticism over the role of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad in the 2017 Khan Shaykhun chemical attack.
May 2017, voted against sanctions on North Korea.
March 2019, voted to override Trump's veto of a measure unwinding Trump's declaration of a national emergency at the southern border
2019 sent letters to Trump telling him to end unauthorized military action in Afghanistan and to end support of Saudis against the Houthis.
July 2019, voted against a House resolution opposing efforts to boycott Israel and the Global Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement
November 2019, voted no on the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019
December 2019, voted against the Uighur Intervention and Global Humanitarian Unified Response (UIGHUR) Act
December 2021, voted against the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act
September 2021, voted against $1 billion of funding for Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system.
May 2022, voted against a non-binding resolution denouncing antisemitism and opposition to Israel.
2025, voted against the One Big Beautiful Bill Act and Full-Year Continuing Appropriations and Extensions Act, 2025. He never sponsored a recission bill to remove the overspending he claimed to have found.
July 2025, despite having never mentioning Epstein files during Biden administration, Massie introduced a discharge petition alongside Democratic representative Ro Khanna to force a vote on a law to compel the release of the Epstein files.
February 2026, Massie grandstands with Khanna identifying 6 unrelated individuals as being Epstein associates.


In summation, Massie has been a consistent opponent to Israel, a consistent advocate for Iran and despots throughout the world, especially of the Muslim kind, and an attention *****.


Syria was better with Assad, so he got that right.

Well, as long as you weren't a Syrian in Syria, this is true...

It actually was better for the average Syrian, I would know.

But your right, its much better now with mass murders of Syrian Christians and other Syrians. Having pro sunni ISIS/ALQaeda leaders is certainly a beacon for peace and stability. LOL

Syria was stable before with Assad, that is fact, which is good for the SURROUIDING countries. The middle east runs better with dictators.

Well, when dictators kill everyone that even slightly gets out of line, I suppose that helps with the stability.

By the same token, the USSR was better off when Stalin was running it...

But he did not kill everyone, that's the thing. Certainly not Syrian Christians, they lived in peace and had no issues, as did many OTHER groups such as Kurds. The only groups he suppressed where groups we dont like, well until we supported them under Democrats and McCain types.

You are misinformed


Libya and Iraq were both stable, but look what happened when you removed the strong arm type who was not a hardcore islamist. Chaos and today hotbeds of destabilization. Assad was secular, which is good for that part of the world.
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The Syrians you are so worried about under Assad are worse off now, especially minority groups, they are being wiped out.
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samurai_science said:

The Syrians you are so worried about under Assad are worse off now, especially minority groups, they are being wiped out.

I'm not worried about the Syrians.

I was pointing out that Assad was a dictator that killed anyone that got out of line, like Stalin.

And you pointed out Libya and Iraq - yep, dictators that killed anyone that got out of line.

I didn't make a judgement about removing them or not.

Just pointing out why there was "stability" in those countries.
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Ag with kids said:

samurai_science said:

The Syrians you are so worried about under Assad are worse off now, especially minority groups, they are being wiped out.

I'm not worried about the Syrians.

I was pointing out that Assad was a dictator that killed anyone that got out of line, like Stalin.

And you pointed out Libya and Iraq - yep, dictators that killed anyone that got out of line.

I didn't make a judgement about removing them or not.

Just pointing out why there was "stability" in those countries.


Wrong " as long as you weren't a Syrian in Syria". That's what you said which is what I pushed back on because it's patently false. He was not at all like Stalin, that's dumb as hell

 
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