Austin ISD now has 23 schools rated F

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Science Denier said:

murphyag said:

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Ag87H2O said:

Democrats - doing less with more since ... forever.

Republicans have run the state for 30+ years. There's plenty of blame to go around


State doesn't run school districts unless the state is forced to take one over.

If the state ran the schools in this state, there would be less than 20 failing districts in the state, much less than over 20 in one ****ed Jo district.

The TEA runs public education in Texas. The governor appoints the decision makers at TEA. TEA is in charge of state curriculum and educational guidelines that all public school.districts and public schools must follow. Public school districts can only purchase TEA approved curriculum, books, software, etc.


The curriculum isn't the problem. MANY Teachers don't CANNOT teach it.

FIFY
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Owlagdad said:

My mom and dad were dirt poor farm kids.
Came home and did chores just so they could eat and family survive.
They made good grades and made something of themselves.
I would tend to say hey had lots of fortitude!
But I can imagine in a debate with a liberal, the liberal would say they had privilege and said privilege was because they were white.
All the consequences for poor behavior in schools was due to liberalism. I can remember when over at the black school, the teachers used the board and they had good behavior. Liberals took away consequences to buy votes!
I often wonder if conservatives would have said, "hell no, we aren't going to move an hour from work, you people get with the program. ". Just recently Dallas ISD took corporal punishment out of their schools. I would like to see research of the before and after!
But cheap land in Spring, Conroe , Mesquite, Plano, Round Rock and developers more than willing to make it it easier to go try and make a life where schools were good and rules were followed. What was left in inner city were grifters who make a living with their hands out because the mess that was created is too big for them!

It's way worse than you even think. I've spent the last 3 years of my working life working in a public elementary school. The things the kids can do and get zero punishment has been astonishing. I say this as a 35 year cop. It has been massively eye-opening. I don't think I'd send my kids to public school now.
And I work in a good district in a fairly affluent school.
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My kid was labeled was an emergent bilingual but that is because he's fluent in Spanish. There are/were dual language programs that all the well to do Austinites send their kids to school - Becker, Travis Heights, Zilker etc aka schools near the million dollar plus homes. We've since moved out to the Drip. Overall though, AISD and grossly mismanaged and in need of the state to root out the BS.
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I think it falls on parenting more than teachers. My kids are going to be successful no matter where they go: private, public, home because of what we teach and reinforce in the home.
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Perhaps I live in a rural fishbowl, but every ISD in Nacogdoches County is an A or a B except for Nacogdoches ISD, which is a D. Almost all of the private schools are in the city and I know a family who would not move to the city until their children were accepted into a private school. I wonder if there are many (or any) large cities in Texas that have successful ISDs.
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TrumpsBarber said:

Perhaps I live in a rural fishbowl, but every ISD in Nacogdoches County is an A or a B except for Nacogdoches ISD, which is a D. Almost all of the private schools are in the city and I know a family who would not move to the city until their children were accepted into a private school. I wonder if there are many (or any) large cities in Texas that have successful ISDs.


So, except for the ISD in the most populous part of the county. That's the underlying issue. The more populous you become the worse your public ISD will get. Directly proportional correlation for a variety of reasons.
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AxelFoley85 said:

I think it falls on parenting more than teachers. My kids are going to be successful no matter where they go: private, public, home because of what we teach and reinforce in the home.


You hope they will but if they are surrounded by negative influences all day every day it makes your job million times tougher.
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Indeed. It appears that all of the non-English speaking children live in that city, all of the youth gangs are in that city and the vast majority of the liberals live in that city. And it is a college town.
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TrumpsBarber said:

Indeed. It appears that all of the non-English speaking children live in that city, all of the youth gangs are in that city and the vast majority of the liberals live in that city. And it is a college town.


There you go.
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AxelFoley85 said:

I think it falls on parenting more than teachers. My kids are going to be successful no matter where they go: private, public, home because of what we teach and reinforce in the home.


Not talking about being successful. Yea. For kids to make A's there has to be focus at the home.

We are talking about just not failing. Failing. 23 of them. Not just one.

Teachers that don't focus on actual teaching and focus more about kids going to an insanely stupid "no kings" protest should be fired.

Especially if their school is failing.

Failing.
LOL OLD
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Wait. Wait . Wait. For all we know this is an improvement.
I feel so much better since about 11 a.m. CT on 20 Jan. 2025
AxelFoley85
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I disagree with you. It's easy to fail when you don't have involved parents and aren't following up at home, every single day. The teachers can only do so much. I don't agree with the no kings thing one bit but your hard on for one day is odd. Anyways, Matias Segura is a crook and AISD is filled with a bunch of woke administrative bloat.
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Much of the executive leadership of Austin ISD went to Tceh. This should tell you everything that you need to know.
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AxelFoley85 said:

I disagree with you. It's easy to fail when you don't have involved parents and aren't following up at home, every single day. The teachers can only do so much. I don't agree with the no kings thing one bit but your hard on for one day is odd. Anyways, Matias Segura is a crook and AISD is filled with a bunch of woke administrative bloat.

It's no5 one day. try a culture to try to make our kids dumb. And its working
LOL OLD
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GAC06 said:

Yes. Austin pays more than any other district by a wide margin according to this, but it's a few years old. In 24-25 more than half their tax revenue was "subject to recapture"

https://www.austinisd.org/budget/recapture

"Recapture" of funds another district has no right to sounds a lot like a "buy back" of guns the government never owned.


It's very socialist in nature, and it shocks nobody that Austinites are against socialism when they are the ones being screwed by the government.

So anyone know what changes the Government when it took over Houston ISD? What led to improvements? And what's up with Fort Worth ISD ?
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AxelFoley85 said:

I disagree with you. It's easy to fail when you don't have involved parents and aren't following up at home, every single day. The teachers can only do so much. I don't agree with the no kings thing one bit but your hard on for one day is odd. Anyways, Matias Segura is a crook and AISD is filled with a bunch of woke administrative bloat.


Lack of parent support isn't unique to Austin ISD. Why is Austin so much worse? Teachers are a big part of the problem, specifically in Austin ISD. A large number of them are more concerned with politics than teaching. During the 7 years my kids were in middle and High School, never once heard anything about education initiatives.
All they cared about was social issues. Over and over. The administration drove out all the good teachers. And yes I have nothing but disdain for that school district
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I'm not sure who has the best numbers?
Kiss my beans
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In defense of Austin ISD, I am prepared to say that I am entirely satisfied with the quality of the education received by my older daughter at LASA. The problem is that the exceptional outcomes are concentrated to a limited number of schools.
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Vestal_Flame said:

In defense of Austin ISD, I am prepared to say that I am entirely satisfied with the quality of the education received by my older daughter at LASA. The problem is that the exceptional outcomes are concentrated to a limited number of schools.

LASA is absolutely the exception.
Its the #34 high school in the country, and #4 in Texas (per Gemini). At Bowie (where my kids went), they had 1 and at most 2 good/great teachers every year. Most were trash. Many did absolutely nothing.
As opposed to LASA, where 6/7/8 out of 8 teachers are exceptional
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Communism has taken over our public school system.
Marvin J. Schiller
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cas8019 said:

I'm not sure who has the best numbers?


I didn't argue Leander vs Austin ISD I argued Vandegrift. Vandegrift has the lowest spend per student of any of the 6 HS's in Leander ISD and it is by far the highest performing. The overall difference between Leander ISD and Austin ISD is still significant (the only question is just how significant depending on how you want to account). The article posted based on TEA data is over $20k per student in AISD.

I can certainly understand why this guy doesn't want to talk about Vandegrift and just dismiss it because it has more wealthy and involved parents. They pay monster taxes that subsidize the rest of LISD and beyond but get the least back themselves. The District even restricts a lot of things that parents want to do to fundraise for Vandegrift because they insist on a significant portion of that money sent to other schools in the district so it hurts fundraising. Vandegrift gets the most out of everything they have because they have students that want to succeed and parents that are involved. It's also not the same as LASA because LASA is a magnet school you have to apply to. They don't even have the same Top 10/5% rules that apply to them for A&M and Texas. Vandegrift just has anyone who lives in their area and not everyone is affluent.

The point remains the same though, money doesn't have a relationship to results and often has an adverse relationship. Parental involvement is the best indicator but they don't want to talk about that because it devalues administration and special programs and even teachers. If you want to have great schools you need to get parents involved and supportive but that shifts the power dynamic.

It's the same reason they don't school choice. Look at New Orleans which had been a disaster in terms of education. They shifted to a charter model and have seen huge improvements. Parents can send their kids to any school they want in the area with the only limitation being that they may have to go in a lottery if they don't have enough seats. The floor has risen significantly and the results have seen solid and consistent improvement. Prior to 2005 they had 60% of their schools that were rated as academically unacceptable and they made that move to a full charter system and now have zero "F" rated schools. Considering the demographics, funding issues, and other factors in New Orleans that is staggering yet a place like AISD wants nothing to do with that type of model.
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Gotta love the media. The thing they feature is some former teacher crying talking about funding cuts and a state takeover when they spend more per student than any other large district and have been able to stop the state from taking over in spite of being a complete failure.

"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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Vestal_Flame said:

Much of the executive leadership of Austin ISD went to Tceh. This should tell you everything that you need to know.

I really believe AISD systematically went after any remotely conservative teachers, or teachers that didn't adhere to their TDS filled agenda.

Pretty much every outstanding teacher my kids had at Bowie, either retired or moved to a better school district. There were several that did this, both conservative and liberal. Everything has to be anti-Trump, or you are no use to the district.
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BadMoonRisin said:

Keep this in mind when the teachers bring out their kids for protests who can barely read.

Half the people on this website can barely spell and most of them went to Texas A&M.
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Public school success is based on Zip Codes more than anything else.
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GAC06 said:

Yes. Austin pays more than any other district by a wide margin according to this, but it's a few years old. In 24-25 more than half their tax revenue was "subject to recapture"

https://www.austinisd.org/budget/recapture

"Recapture" of funds another district has no right to sounds a lot like a "buy back" of guns the government never owned.


I am both a taxpayer and a parent in Austin ISD. There is a profound cognitive dissonance in paying my taxes.
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Bull Meachem said:

Public school success is based on Zip Codes more than anything else.

In Austin, that is certainly true. Back when we lived there, one would see bumperstickers about how great certain zip codes were. More than a location, a lifestyle. Travis Heights, Zilker Park Area and the like.
 
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