****** The Official Houston Texans Thread 2025 ******

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Aust Ag
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If he plays even one snap, he resets his HOF eligibility clock back another 5 years.
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Aust Ag said:

If he plays even one snap, he resets his HOF eligibility clock back another 5 years.


Is Rivers even HOF worthy?

And I'm asking because I have no idea where he stacks up.
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Rivers is 44 years old

he had 6 seasons of 30+ TD passes

9 seasons of 28+ TD passes

might get in the Hall because of his 2 shocking playoff upsets of vintage Peyton Manning Colts teams
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Rivers is going to get physically destroyed.

Reflexes of a 44 year old who hasn't played in 5 years. So he will be late to reads and throws. He will have no touch on a pass. He's a torn Achilles/torn ACL waiting to happen just on the non contact side. He will get driven into the turf and his body won't know how to land or turn because it's 5 years out of practice and slow.

This just makes no sense.
CharleyKerfeld
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I think the Colts should put Pittman at QB, Tyler Warren at FB, and run the option .
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Ag_07 said:

Aust Ag said:

If he plays even one snap, he resets his HOF eligibility clock back another 5 years.


Is Rivers even HOF worthy?

And I'm asking because I have no idea where he stacks up.

I think he might be the dictionary definition of Hall of Very Good
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If Old Man River gets off the couch and leads the Colts to Super Bowl victory, they'll make a Hollywood movie about it and he'll get into the HoF.
CharleyKerfeld
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Almost forgot in the sheer goodness of Sunday night that there was Bingo update to report.

B-Rabbit and WES2006AG each got another square for successfully picking the Texans to go 2-2 on national TV this year.

This propelled B-Rabbit into a tie for first with KidDoc at 7 squares each.
It was #5 for WES2006AG.

If you picked Dalton Schultz +575 yards, things are looking good as he is currently at 574.

Other categories also ahead of pace are:
(Current/Pace/Square)
Team Wins: 8/10/9.5
Nico receptions: 61/80/80
Nico receiving yards: 916/1,198/1,100
Team interceptions: 15/20/19
Devon Achane total TDs: 11/14/12

Jared Goff is now running away with the passing yards category and passing TDs as well.
Bijan and Derrick Henry are locked into the RB yards. Bijan is up by just 46. Gibbs has 13 TD, Henry has 10.

Jamaar Chase is now 205 yards ahead of Jefferson in receiving yards.
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Ag_07 said:

Aust Ag said:

If he plays even one snap, he resets his HOF eligibility clock back another 5 years.


Is Rivers even HOF worthy?


And I'm asking because I have no idea where he stacks up.
Aust Ag
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More passing yards than Marino and Stafford.
CharleyKerfeld
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Pro-football reference has the same sort of HOF indicator that baseball-reference.com has.

It has him at 98.06 with the average HOF QB at a rating of 108. That rating is based on championships, first-team all pro selections, Pro Bowl selections, years as a starter, weighted career approximate value, games, games started, completions, attempts, yards, TD passes, longest past, sacks and INTs.

Only two guys - Brady and Manning - are above 200, with Rodgers at 199.

The only guys above 100 not in the Hall are guy who have retired in the last 5 years and aren't eligible yet - Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, and Ben Roethlisberger.

Mahomes is at 102.13. Rivers is the top guy under 100. Plenty of guys under his ranking are in there. Jim Kelly is only at 59.10; Aikman at 64.28.

And now, some funny ones.
DeShaun Watson: 25.88 - lower on the list than Bobby Hebert (27.15)
David Carr, 14.80 - just ahead of Blake Bortles at 14.73.
Vince Young did slightly better here than on the Wunderlic, with a 12.00. He is .02 points ahead of RG III, who is .03 points ahead of Bubby Brister, who is .02 points ahead of Justin Fields.

You have to have a minimum of 50 games to make the list. Terrell Pryor checks is at #248 with a rating of 0.50.





A great time waster: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_QB.htm




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I thought the Pats "easy schedule" was being blown out of proportion, but check this out. And then look at Texans
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ElkoKing said:



I thought the Pats "easy schedule" was being blown out of proportion, but check this out. And then look at Texans

Don't put a lot in to these, since I think if the titans played the Pats schedule they would still only have 2-3 wins.

You can only play the schedule you are given, and its the NFL Any Given Sunday
Pahdz
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Very true, plus this is just how the league works. Some of our best seasons have been when we played a last place schedule
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Pahdz said:

Very true, plus this is just how the league works. Some of our best seasons have been when we played a last place schedule

There's a reason a last place team wins a division every single year...it's a huge advantage
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the AFC East drew the AFC North and NFC South this year -- those are the divisions you wanted for 2025

plus the Patriots' 5th NFC opponent was the Giants (2-11)
CharleyKerfeld
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It's hard to imagine the Patriots are 11-2 but lost to the Raiders.
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I still don't expect this to end well but this is interesting and probably explains the signing. Probably not a lot of December QB street free agents that already know the offense.


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ElkoKing said:



I thought the Pats "easy schedule" was being blown out of proportion, but check this out. And then look at Texans

Not unusual for NFL SOS to have the best teams with lower numbers and the worst teams with higher SOS. Because the teams can't play themselves.

Texans' SOS is pretty dang impressive all things considered.
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Ryan34 said:

ElkoKing said:



I thought the Pats "easy schedule" was being blown out of proportion, but check this out. And then look at Texans

Not unusual for NFL SOS to have the best teams with lower numbers and the worst teams with higher SOS. Because the teams can't play themselves.

Texans' SOS is pretty dang impressive all things considered.

I don't know, Jalen Hurts committed two turnovers in one play on Monday night so it kind of felt like he was playing against the eagles.
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canadiaggie said:

Ag_07 said:

Aust Ag said:

If he plays even one snap, he resets his HOF eligibility clock back another 5 years.


Is Rivers even HOF worthy?

And I'm asking because I have no idea where he stacks up.

I think he might be the dictionary definition of Hall of Very Good


I'm not sure how he makes it. He's Top 7 all time in passing yards (63.4k in 16 seasons ) and Top 6 in TDs (421). That's more TDs and over 2k more yards than Marino had in the same 16 seasons.

He had about 23,000 more yards and 138 more TD passes than Montana had in 15 years, who had the best WR of all time in Jerry Rice as his rickshaw. Amusingly Rivers (64.9%) was also more accurate than Montana (63.2%).

He's thrown for more TDs, a better completion %, and just under 600 less yards in one less season than Big Ben.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_career.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_td_career.htm

As long as you don't take into account the numbers or supporting cast he's ok I guess.

Just being a QB on a winning team is all that used to matter. Terry Bradshaw had Franco as a RB, Lynn Swann as WR, and had a career passing % of 51.9 over 13 years. That's Anthony Richardson bad. Vince Young is embarrassed by that.

That's 187th best out of 215 QBs ever who lasted 10 years in the NFL, but in the bottom 28 QBs' defense only 4 of them started the same year or later as TB.

HOF though.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_cmp_perc_career.htm

All that's to say Rivers has an argument.
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