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. Got this this morning from Brazos county A&M club.

BCAMC Family:

We wanted to share a powerful example of Aggie leadership and selfless service. In response to this weekend's tragedy in Central Texas, the student leaders of Student Bonfire have mobilized to respond to the Kerr county's disaster response and recovery operations' direct request to assist with timber, brush, and debris clearing operations on the ground.

These students are volunteering their time and physical labor to help families in need, and they are doing so with remarkable heart and humility. Their advisor recently posted an update on their efforts, which you can read here on Facebook.

The Brazos County A&M Club is making a donation to support these young leaders, but more help is needed. If you'd like to contribute directly to Student Bonfire's efforts in Kerr County, you can donate through their website:
https://bonfire.ag/#support

Please be sure to annotate your gift with "Kerr County Disaster Support" so the funds are directed appropriately. Donations via Venmo are accepted through the link provided on their page.

Their advisor has confirmed that any funds not used directly by Student Bonfire for this mission will be donated to the broader Kerr County relief fund.

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Done!

And I encourage anyone that can to join me. Many of my best memories of A&M revolve around Bonfire and the lifelong friends I made as a result of my work around, in and on it. I know they will be a visual perfect example of Texas A&M and the Aggie Code of Honor and I am honored to support that effort.

Gig 'Em

HeadCiv78

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Does anyone have a link to this post where I can share it on social media?

ugh.. I didn't want to post a link, perhaps someone can help me out with this..

[We are going leave this up but any derails about lawsuits or whether the camp should be reopen will be removed. -Staff]

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Canyon Lake Agbu94 said:

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Squadron7 said:

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Question: Were any Mystic campers lost that were not in these circled cabins? (Not counting any counselors that may have headed to them to help evacuate.)

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So looking at that picture, the bottom of the pic has a dam. Is that the dam that was referenced as giving way? Looks like this camp was getting lots of water from two different ways.

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I don't think any actual dams gave way. That was a figure of speech from a witness early on. Those are low water dams there simply to create a recreational pool. Water is always flowing over the top.

I think those cabins were unique in that they were immediately surrounded by water. There was no place to go but up for them. Other cabins appear to all have an escape like backing up to a hill, etc.

EDIT: Even those cabins are not far from a hill. The water must've just gotten between them and the hill before anyone realized it. Maybe precisely because three separate flows came together right at that point.

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Two established rivers/creeks plus whatever the extent of the rain shed is brought in by the yellow highlight. I can only imagine what kind of rising effect might happen when you have three flows like that running into each other.

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This is a flood plain map that was created/updated whenever flood data was last updated years ago, it is not a diagram or depiction of the recent event.

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Thank you for this map. It is very helpful to understand what they might have been facing. I had read accounts very early on that Dick Eastland was trying to drive some of the girls to safety in his truck, but got inundated crossing a creek on the road to high ground. Seems like that might have been the road leading west-northwest from the cabins maybe? Looks like it would have been a long and dangerous trip on foot to the west-southwest to get to any accessible high ground otherwise.

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Any news on Abby pohl? I haven't seen many posts about her

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a relative of Abby's wrote on Sunday that she was still considered missing. Not sure if there have been developments since then.

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She was recovered this morning.

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Thank you for updating. May her family find peace.

Greta's family (who was the only child lost from a cabin other than the two primary affected cabins) has also reported their daughter has been recovered.

No doubt. I lost a younger cousin in a very sudden and public accident. While riding in the funeral limo on the way to the cemetery with her parents and brother we got stuck behind a white Guaranteed Overnight Delivery truck that said G.O.D. in big black letters. We felt He was speaking to us. We were also worried she may have suffered during the incident. When we got home the kitchen clock was stopped at the exact time of the incident. It gave us some comfort that she didn't suffer.

Derm- I'm very sorry for your family's loss. We in Galveston have been praying for Mary Grace, Blakely, and the other children's safe return. F92

I've been following this thread pretty religiously but wanted to double-check. Has there been any confirmation as to the status of Kelly Anne Lytal?

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I've been following this thread pretty religiously but wanted to double-check. Has there been any confirmation as to the status of Kelly Anne Lytal?

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Kellyanne's father reported yesterday that she was still unaccounted for.

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I've been following this thread pretty religiously but wanted to double-check. Has there been any confirmation as to the status of Kelly Anne Lytal?

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Kellyanne's father reported yesterday that she was still unaccounted for.

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Thanks I did see that. Just couldn't remember when it was and if there had been anything since then.

Tomorrow night:

College Station, TX - On Wednesday night, July 9, 100% of all profits at Texas Roadhouse on University Drive will go to the Community Foundation of the Texas Hill Country. 3-10 pm

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Question: Were any Mystic campers lost that were not in these circled cabins? (Not counting any counselors that may have headed to them to help evacuate.)

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I've been to Hunt, but never to Camp Mystic so this is all speculation. I believe the cabins for Guadalupe camp are circled below, meaning for them to find shelter outside the cabins (which were being inundated) they would have to cross the small dam to the south.

Headmaster/Pastor of Blakely's school:

We pray:
Merciful Father, the generations rise and pass away before You. You are the strength of those who labor and the repose of the blessed dead. We give You thanks for all who have lived and died in the faith, especially for Blakely, our dear sister. In this body You gave her life and poured out Your Holy Spirit when You washed her in the renewing waters of Holy Baptism. By the same Spirit, You led her to confess with her mouth that Jesus is Lord and to believe in her heart that You have raised Christ from the dead. Give us faith to commend our sister to You and to await with confidence the resurrection of all Your saints, living and departed; through Jesus Christ, Your Son, our Lord, who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and forever.

Five of us had the chance to go out and help in the recovery efforts yesterday. We were working with, of all places, the Doss Volunteer Fire Department. Searched the area of the two RV parks that were washed away. Pictures do not do it justice. Extremely painstaking work. Multiple groups on their hands and knees digging through debris. At one point we were up at least 15' - 20' doing anything we could to pull debris piles apart. Later in the day the large excavators were able to get down to the river and then across to the island we were working. That will help efforts now they they have more of those available. We also had a huge influx of state and federal departments join later in the day. It reminded me of the day after Bonfire fell. Lots of work going on and suddenly stop to listen or find someone. Completely surreal.

We continue to keep everyone in our prayers, including all of the search and rescue folks.

The cabins you circled are up on a hill, where the older campers stay. They would not have evacuated those cabins.

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Question: Were any Mystic campers lost that were not in these circled cabins? (Not counting any counselors that may have headed to them to help evacuate.)

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I've been to Hunt, but never to Camp Mystic so this is all speculation. I believe the cabins for Guadalupe camp are circled below, meaning for them to find shelter outside the cabins (which were being inundated) they would have to cross the small dam to the south.

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What you circled there is what they call "senior hill". All the girls were safe in this area, although they were trapped by the bridge yes.

This is an accurate map of the camp site. The two cabins in red, Twins and Bubble Inn are where the majority of children were lost. There was one child in a different cabin in that area, reportedly "Jumble House"

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Question: Were any Mystic campers lost that were not in these circled cabins? (Not counting any counselors that may have headed to them to help evacuate.)

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I've been to Hunt, but never to Camp Mystic so this is all speculation. I believe the cabins for Guadalupe camp are circled below, meaning for them to find shelter outside the cabins (which were being inundated) they would have to cross the small dam to the south.

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That's senior hill. It is part of the Guadalupe camp but the waters didn't get up there. "The flats" is where the younger campers were and is down where the tennis courts and dining hall are.

Here's a better pic

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My daughter knew Chloe, Childress, one of the counselors who passed

My daughter wrote me, "God is so cool, in Chloe's mirror at home before all of this "

Moar tears

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She had no way of knowing that she was writing this for her family and loved ones, as they enter the longest wait of their lives.

I was reminded of Fireflight's "For Those Who Wait." People who wait with Christ-like character are stronger than you can know.

As of this morning, the figure is that five camp girls and a counselor have not yet been recovered.



To the best of my knowledge, the counselor is Katherine, and the girls are Ellen, Kellyanne, Virginia, Cile, and Margaret S.

Again choosing not to list their last names but all are girls whose images were circulated immediately after the floods.

Prayers to the families whose last hopes are recovering their girls to lay them to rest. An absolutely unimaginable situation to be in.

I have been following this thread since Friday and although I do not personally know any of these children or families my heart is absolutely broken. I never attended Camp Mystic but I did used to go to church camp in Kerrville as a kid. I will continue to pray for these families and am going to go to Hobby Lobby to get pink ribbon.

Looking at these maps of the camp and reading the information here, I know lots of girls were evacuated to the Rec Hall and Wiggle Inn girls floated in their cabin. Did the girls in Giggle evacuate or were they able to stay in their cabin? Just curious since they were between Wiggle and Bubble.

Does anyone know how many girls were attending the camp when the floods hit?

A couple hundred I believe

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I have been following this thread since Friday and although I do not personally know any of these children or families my heart is absolutely broken. I never attended Camp Mystic but I did used to go to church camp in Kerrville as a kid. I will continue to pray for these families and am going to go to Hobby Lobby to get pink ribbon.

Looking at these maps of the camp and reading the information here, I know lots of girls were evacuated to the Rec Hall and Wiggle Inn girls floated in their cabin. Did the girls in Giggle evacuate or were they able to stay in their cabin? Just curious since they were between Wiggle and Bubble.

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We only know details from first hand accounts right now. There were posters here confirming that Wiggle Inn girls stayed in their bunks and Chatterbox girls left on foot to higher ground. We may not know those details unless a family reports their child's first hand experience.

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What you circled there is what they call "senior hill". All the girls were safe in this area, although they were trapped by the bridge yes.

This is an accurate map of the camp site. The two cabins in red, Twins and Bubble Inn are where the majority of children were lost. There was one child in a different cabin in that area, reportedly "Jumble House"

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Did all the cabins on the right (from bug house to chatterbox) evacuate? Which cabins did the girls float in mattresses on and survive? Did any cabins get washed away completely or were people swept away while evacuating? Just trying to piece together everything.

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What you circled there is what they call "senior hill". All the girls were safe in this area, although they were trapped by the bridge yes.

This is an accurate map of the camp site. The two cabins in red, Twins and Bubble Inn are where the majority of children were lost. There was one child in a different cabin in that area, reportedly "Jumble House"

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Did all the cabins on the right (from bug house to chatterbox) evacuate? Which cabins did the girls float in mattresses on and survive? Did any cabins get washed away completely or were people swept away while evacuating? Just trying to piece together everything.

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No cabins washed away but many had water up the the ceiling. The cabins to the right did evacuate, some to the rec hall (a wooden 2 -story building that is somehow still standing. The cabins are limestone) and some up sky high. Dick might've driven some of these girls to Senior hill. These cabins were evacuated first because they are lower than Twins, Bubble, and Wiggle. The rec hall is the same elevation as Twins, etc (higher than chatterbox etc.) and has a weaker foundation so girls in these cabins were not immediately evacuated. For sure in Wiggle Inn girls floated on mattresses and survived (this might have also happened in Gigglebox). This was able to occur because they have vaulted ceilings. Twins and Bubble do not have vaulted ceilings. No cabin, including chatterbox, etc. had ever flooded in the 99 years of Mystic

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Does anyone know how many girls were attending the camp when the floods hit?

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I saw 700.

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aginlakeway said:

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Does anyone know how many girls were attending the camp when the floods hit?

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I saw 700.

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This is closer to what I heard.

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What you circled there is what they call "senior hill". All the girls were safe in this area, although they were trapped by the bridge yes.

This is an accurate map of the camp site. The two cabins in red, Twins and Bubble Inn are where the majority of children were lost. There was one child in a different cabin in that area, reportedly "Jumble House"

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Did all the cabins on the right (from bug house to chatterbox) evacuate? Which cabins did the girls float in mattresses on and survive? Did any cabins get washed away completely or were people swept away while evacuating? Just trying to piece together everything.

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The cabins appear to all be there post flood. The videos of the whole cabins floating around were at the boys camp and all of those boys were safe. A parent of a little girl in Wiggle Inn reported they stayed in their cabin during the storm. A family member of a little girl in the Chatterbox cabin told us that the counselors led them up on hill on foot, with some other cabins as well. We simply do not have the details of exactly how it transpired that some girls did not make it.

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I saw 700.

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They are quoting 700 but I wonder if that is the total of both the main Mystic campground and the secondary one.

There are 23 cabins at the Guadalupe river Camp Mystic. With 15 or so girls in each cabin I simply don't know how that adds up to 700.

I just saw where the body of the Odessa Police Officer, who was camping with family and friends, has been found and identified.

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I saw 700.

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They are quoting 700 but I wonder if that is the total of both the main Mystic campground and the secondary one.

There are 23 cabins at the Guadalupe river Camp Mystic. With 15 or so girls in each cabin I simply don't know how that adds up to 700.

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It's going to be both camps. I worked in the office at one of the other major camps in Hunt and each term was ~300. Had dances each term with the old section of Mystic camp (Cypress Lake wasn't built yet) and they had a similar number.

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What you circled there is what they call "senior hill". All the girls were safe in this area, although they were trapped by the bridge yes.

This is an accurate map of the camp site. The two cabins in red, Twins and Bubble Inn are where the majority of children were lost. There was one child in a different cabin in that area, reportedly "Jumble House"

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Did all the cabins on the right (from bug house to chatterbox) evacuate? Which cabins did the girls float in mattresses on and survive? Did any cabins get washed away completely or were people swept away while evacuating? Just trying to piece together everything.

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No cabins washed away but many had water up the the ceiling. The cabins to the right did evacuate, some to the rec hall (a wooden 2 -story building that is somehow still standing. The cabins are limestone) and some up sky high. Dick might've driven some of these girls to Senior hill. These cabins were evacuated first because they are lower than Twins, Bubble, and Wiggle. The rec hall is the same elevation as Twins, etc (higher than chatterbox etc.) and has a weaker foundation so girls in these cabins were not immediately evacuated. For sure in Wiggle Inn girls floated on mattresses and survived (this might have also happened in Gigglebox). This was able to occur because they have vaulted ceilings. Twins and Bubble do not have vaulted ceilings. No cabin, including chatterbox, etc. had ever flooded in the 99 years of Mystic

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I also read at one point that some girls may have also been transported to the Cypress Lake camp while evacuating.

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What you circled there is what they call "senior hill". All the girls were safe in this area, although they were trapped by the bridge yes.

This is an accurate map of the camp site. The two cabins in red, Twins and Bubble Inn are where the majority of children were lost. There was one child in a different cabin in that area, reportedly "Jumble House"

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Did all the cabins on the right (from bug house to chatterbox) evacuate? Which cabins did the girls float in mattresses on and survive? Did any cabins get washed away completely or were people swept away while evacuating? Just trying to piece together everything.

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No cabins washed away but many had water up the the ceiling. The cabins to the right did evacuate, some to the rec hall (a wooden 2 -story building that is somehow still standing. The cabins are limestone) and some up sky high. Dick might've driven some of these girls to Senior hill. These cabins were evacuated first because they are lower than Twins, Bubble, and Wiggle. The rec hall is the same elevation as Twins, etc (higher than chatterbox etc.) and has a weaker foundation so girls in these cabins were not immediately evacuated. For sure in Wiggle Inn girls floated on mattresses and survived (this might have also happened in Gigglebox). This was able to occur because they have vaulted ceilings. Twins and Bubble do not have vaulted ceilings. No cabin, including chatterbox, etc. had ever flooded in the 99 years of Mystic

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I also read at one point that some girls may have also been transported to the Cypress Lake camp while evacuating.

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From what I can gather, this may have been what Dick was trying to do before the tragedy fully struck. There appears no other place to drive girls from Bubble Inn

Looks like aerial survey https://engelsjk.com/posts/an-unnamed-wandering-plane/

Derm, so many people here have expressed beautifully loving, compassionate, and spiritual condolences to you and to others who have lost family members and friends, and I join them. I am profoundly sorry for your family's loss. I will continue to pray fervently for all of you to find comfort and peace through your admirably strong faith in our Lord and in the emotional embrace of countless Aggies and others who have commented here, many of whom you have never met but feel love for you.

I also want you to know that I confidently believe that you are an instrument of the Holy Spirit through your sharing with us the unwavering strength of your faith in our Lord throughout this incomprehensible tragedy. You and others here have encouraged a renewal of my relationship with God and inspired me to become closer to Him.

I will never forget Mary Grace, her precious camp sisters, and all the other victims of the flood who have passed on to eternal joy and spiritual fulfillment in heaven. I will joyously meet them one day, together with being reunited with my beloved family members and friends who have preceded me in completing their faith journey. May God embrace you and your family with His love and give you peace.

My girls have been at Cypress Lake since it opened (this was the first year not there). For those asking about numbers. I believe CL is 200+ and Guadalupe is 500+. As the cabins get older, they open up more slots. Some of the older cabins have 25+ kids sleeping on bunk beds, etc. at Guadalupe. CL still has spots available, but Guadalupe is at capacity every session, every year.

I hope/believe they will reopen. My daughter is adamant that she will be a counselor next year. One more piece of information that I can recall. There were some cabins that flooded in the '32 flood when it got up to the footings of the Dining Hall. But those cabins were torn down and all of the modern cabins are several feet higher than the 1932 high water mark. Britt (Dick's son) told me that story when he gave us the tour during Covid in 2020 before my girls had their first session at Cypress Lake.