Brazos Valley Bombers - COCS baseball diamond.[Staff edit 5/29/25]

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13B said:

Why couldn't the local High School fields be built up to par to accommodate Bombers one month of play and a few tourneys when the HS isn't playing? I am not into baseball so I don't know how all of the fields are used. I assume they aren't really used during June nor year round. High Schools would get great facilities and a means to recoup income and there wouldn't be a need to build new ones every few years. Just seems like it would be a better way to spend the funds for maximum usage but maybe I'm thinking too simplistic. Not to mention, local and high school clubs could run the concessions to earn more money.

Speculating but I presume alcohol sales at a high school might be frowned upon. In addition building an expensive club space at a HS field might be a hard(er) sell to taxpayers.
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Mayor John Nichols weighs in, starting at the 6:00 mark:

https://wtaw.com/college-station-mayor-john-nichols-on-wtaw-59/

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For a guy that claims to know about economics, he sure has a funny way of showing it.
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There's a new long edit on the first post but if you just open it from your watchlist, you'll miss it.
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So these fields have always been promised and now a championship field has been in the mix always as well for all to play on.

Question when this field gets built for the bombers which will be regulation size for the high school and up are the little leagues and softball going to have that fake waist high fence placed out there for them? is the mound and bases going to be moved from the high school and above placement in order to accommodate the little league and softball teams?

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whoop1995 said:

So these fields have always been promised and now a championship field has been in the mix always as well for all to play on.

Question when this field gets built for the bombers which will be regulation size for the high school and up are the little leagues and softball going to have that fake waist high fence placed out there for them? is the mound and bases going to be moved from the high school and above placement in order to accommodate the little league and softball teams?




Portable mounds and artificial turf infields with conversion capability has been discussed all along.

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Bob Yancy said:

whoop1995 said:

So these fields have always been promised and now a championship field has been in the mix always as well for all to play on.

Question when this field gets built for the bombers which will be regulation size for the high school and up are the little leagues and softball going to have that fake waist high fence placed out there for them? is the mound and bases going to be moved from the high school and above placement in order to accommodate the little league and softball teams?




Portable mounds and artificial turf infields with conversion capability has been discussed all along.

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Thanks sorry I missed that in the discussion
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dubi said:

Bob Yancy said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

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doubledog said:

Bob, there is a saying. "When you buy a used car, you are buying someone else's problem"
I hope this does not become CoCS's problem.


Thanks for the heads up. I think this is more like, when you rent out your new boat for 28 half days out of the year, charge a fair price and inspect her real carefully when she returns to the dock. :-)

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My biggest concern with the Bombers (besides the implications that they aren't the best business partners)-

What happens when other organizations want to rent your boat for 3 full days but the boat is only available for 2.5 days so they go find a different lake? It seems like we aren't maximizing our revenue in that situation.


That's fair, but wouldn't we face that with or without the Bombers?

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I think it would be easier to rent all the fields in the diamond to someone holding a tournament instead of holding a field for the Bombers for their home games. If a tournament rents 1 field for x dollars for the entire day, should the Bombers pay that entire daily rate for their one game in the evening? Or do they pay a lesser rate and we lose tournaments?

There are 3 new fields scheduled. You are going to have a contract with the Bombers for one of them. That leaves 2 new fields that are available 100% of the time during those contracted months.

I'd like to honestly ask why can't they build their own field? The owner has land in Mid-town as already mentioned above?


What land does the owner have in Midtown?
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Not really a detail, but I heard Waco was building a semi pro field. Is it in the same vein as this?
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I've never liked the name. Doesn't make any sense, IMO. Sounds like there's a stigma too. Maybe it's time for a total rename and rebrand. Call them the Aggieland Academics.
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Nothing wrong with the name, it is in reference to the old Bryan Army Airfield, a fairly significant training base during WW2.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Bombers
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Goose83 said:

TAMU1990 said:

Bob Yancy said:

Captn_Ag05 said:

Perhaps Mr. Yancy can clarify the timing, but the new fields (including the championship stadium) were announced back in December with very little negative reaction. My thought is that the Bombers leadership saw the plans and thought it sounded like a place they could play their games rather than it being a situation where the city is building a stadium for the Bombers.


That's my general recollection. And I've learned on this thread that discussion of a champ field dates back to 2019. This is what we approved in December- 6 months ago… (see pic)

365 to center is too small. Needs to be 385 at a minimum, unless you're going to build a very tall wall.
A real championship field would be 400 feet to center field.

365 feet is a band box.
400 is optimal and I agree with that. Maybe they are building a nice, beautiful, big wall too. But 385 is the minimum if HS players are going to be on this too. I also assuming they are trying to save money by making the field smaller.
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cslifer said:

Nothing wrong with the name, it is in reference to the old Bryan Army Airfield, a fairly significant training base during WW2.
I was under the impression that the Bryan army airfield trained fighter pilots. Yoder (Wichita) was the bomber training airfield WW2.
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Dude, it is team of college kids living their baseball dream out. They dont even get paid outside of room and board so they can maintain college eligibility. I don't think historical accuracy is high on the list of priorities.
ETA: the original Bryan Bombers played at the current field in the late 40s as well.
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cslifer said:

Dude, it is team of college kids living their baseball dream out. They dont even get paid outside of room and board so they can maintain college eligibility. I don't think historical accuracy is high on the list of priorities.


I wonder if NIL allows them to get paid during the summer?
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RELLIS was a training field, not a bomber base. I get the connection but think it deserves revisiting. Was a loose one when it started and is even looser now. Doesn't help that the last thing you want to do in sports is to BOMB. Aggieland Academics. I stand by the suggestion. lol
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Pretty sure it is also paying homage to the original Bryan Bombers minor league team from the 40s.
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AggiePhil said:

RELLIS was a training field, not a bomber base. I get the connection but think it deserves revisiting. Was a loose one when it started and is even looser now. Doesn't help that the last thing you want to do in sports is to BOMB. Aggieland Academics. I stand by the suggestion. lol


College Station Cannons?

Sorry it's a fun word game to play. I like the Bombers as an Air Force veteran, but IF the name is changed, gotta disagree with "Academics."

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dubi said:

I'd like to honestly ask why can't they build their own field? The owner has land in Mid-town as already mentioned above?
Why would you buy a boat if you can get a sucker to buy the exact boat you want, maintain it for you, and let you rent it whenever you want for next to nothing?
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My words are not intended to be disrespectful to any of the staid and venerable members of College Station City Council
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Brian Alg said:

dubi said:

I'd like to honestly ask why can't they build their own field? The owner has land in Mid-town as already mentioned above?
Why would you buy a boat if you can get a sucker to buy the exact boat you want, maintain it for you, and let you rent it whenever you want for next to nothing?


This. College Station joins the ranks of cities subsidizing wealthy people's sports teams.
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Hornbeck said:

Brian Alg said:

dubi said:

I'd like to honestly ask why can't they build their own field? The owner has land in Mid-town as already mentioned above?
Why would you buy a boat if you can get a sucker to buy the exact boat you want, maintain it for you, and let you rent it whenever you want for next to nothing?


This. College Station joins the ranks of cities subsidizing wealthy people's sports teams.


The City is leasing a facility to the Bombers for a few evenings during two months over the summer. Hardly subsidizing the team.
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Mr.Short-termMemory said:

Hornbeck said:

Brian Alg said:

dubi said:

I'd like to honestly ask why can't they build their own field? The owner has land in Mid-town as already mentioned above?
Why would you buy a boat if you can get a sucker to buy the exact boat you want, maintain it for you, and let you rent it whenever you want for next to nothing?


This. College Station joins the ranks of cities subsidizing wealthy people's sports teams.


They are leasing a facility to a team for a few evenings during two months over the summer. Hardly subsising the team.


Agreed.

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doubledog said:

cslifer said:

Nothing wrong with the name, it is in reference to the old Bryan Army Airfield, a fairly significant training base during WW2.
I was under the impression that the Bryan army airfield trained fighter pilots. Yoder (Wichita) was the bomber training airfield WW2.


Bryan Air Force Base was originally activated in 1943 as a U.S. Army Air Forces installation known as Bryan Army Air Field. The base housed a flight instructors' school and was assigned the task of developing a standardized system of instrument flight training. The Full Panel Attitude System developed at the base was one of the most significant contributions the base made to pilot training. The instrument training school at Bryan AAF was the only one of its kind in the United States Army Air Forces.[1]

With the end of World War II (WWII), the base was inactivated. The installation became Bryan Air Force Base upon the establishment of the U.S. Air Force (USAF) as a separate service in September 1947.[2]

In 1951, with the outbreak of the Korean War, the base was reactivated for USAF pilot training and the runways were extended.[2] Assigned to the Air Training Command, it conducted advanced flight training in the T-33 Shooting Star.[citation needed] In 1955, after combat in Korea had wound down, the USAF began reducing operations at the base, and in 1957, it announced that the base would be inactivated again in 1958.[2] The USAF fully vacated the base in May 1961.[4][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Air_Force_Base
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The city gets to use it all they want during the off-season! Glol. Who falls for this?

Another funny part to me is that it is so trashy. College Station is the home of Texas A&M, has so much going for it. Golden age prosperity stuff if city hall would recognize what we have going on and let citizens capitalize on it. And instead they are distracted by an opportunity to simp for the Bombers? Hilarious
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Brian Alg said:

The city gets to use it all they want during the off-season! Glol. Who falls for this?

Another funny part to me is that it is so trashy. College Station is the home of Texas A&M, has so much going for it. Golden age prosperity stuff if city hall would recognize what we have going on and let citizens capitalize on it. And instead they are distracted by an opportunity to simp for the Bombers? Hilarious


??? Tournament baseball doesn't have an off-season. And as mentioned above, it does not appear the Bombers will have exclusive rights to the field even during the summer. I can see them getting first choice for 4 weekends during the 8 weeks they have games in June and July. Even this season, they have no home games on weekends in June.

I understand being against a repeat of the scenario at Travis Field. But from what been reported, that's not what happening in College Station.
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Independence H-D said:

doubledog said:

cslifer said:

Nothing wrong with the name, it is in reference to the old Bryan Army Airfield, a fairly significant training base during WW2.
I was under the impression that the Bryan army airfield trained fighter pilots. Yoder (Wichita) was the bomber training airfield WW2.


Bryan Air Force Base was originally activated in 1943 as a U.S. Army Air Forces installation known as Bryan Army Air Field. The base housed a flight instructors' school and was assigned the task of developing a standardized system of instrument flight training. The Full Panel Attitude System developed at the base was one of the most significant contributions the base made to pilot training. The instrument training school at Bryan AAF was the only one of its kind in the United States Army Air Forces.[1]

With the end of World War II (WWII), the base was inactivated. The installation became Bryan Air Force Base upon the establishment of the U.S. Air Force (USAF) as a separate service in September 1947.[2]

In 1951, with the outbreak of the Korean War, the base was reactivated for USAF pilot training and the runways were extended.[2] Assigned to the Air Training Command, it conducted advanced flight training in the T-33 Shooting Star.[citation needed] In 1955, after combat in Korea had wound down, the USAF began reducing operations at the base, and in 1957, it announced that the base would be inactivated again in 1958.[2] The USAF fully vacated the base in May 1961.[4][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Air_Force_Base


As an Air Force veteran, that's the neatest thing I've ever read on Texags. Thanks for that. Fly. Fight. Win.

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There are an incredible number of astronauts and Vietnam era and beyond pilots born in Bryan TX because of that base. It's great to fly over and think about , and to use the airport at Hearne which was a remote training strip.
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It is my understanding that Hearne was one of at least 2 associated facilities.
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EBrazosAg said:

There are an incredible number of astronauts and Vietnam era and beyond pilots born in Bryan TX because of that base. It's great to fly over and think about , and to use the airport at Hearne which was a remote training strip.


So full of history around here we don't often think about. I'm guilty of it, anyway. That's good bull. Much obliged.

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Another interesting story about the base.....

The first aircraft to fly through a hurricane ON PURPOSE took off from there.

In 1943, Lt. Col. Joe Duckworth made the first intentional flight into a hurricane from Bryan Air Field in Texas. This daring flight, prompted by a bet with British pilots training at the base, involved a single-engine AT-6 trainer and a navigator. The flight into the hurricane near Galveston, Texas, demonstrated the feasibility of collecting data within these storms, marking the beginning of the Hurricane Hunters mission.
Elaboration:
Bet and Daring Flight:
Duckworth, a flight instructor, took off with his navigator, Lt. Ralph O'Hair, into the eye of a hurricane. This was not just a flight into the storm; it was a deliberate act of flying straight into its core.
Second Flight:
After successfully returning, the base's weather officer, Lt. William Jones-Burdick, also went on another flight into the storm with Duckworth. This second flight further solidified the idea of collecting data within hurricanes.
Foundation of Hurricane Hunting:
Duckworth's flights, and the subsequent creation of the 3rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron (later the 53rd WRS, known as the Hurricane Hunters), established the concept of intentionally flying into hurricanes to gather meteorological data.

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Independence H-D said:

Another interesting story about the base.....

The first aircraft to fly through a hurricane ON PURPOSE took off from there.

In 1943, Lt. Col. Joe Duckworth made the first intentional flight into a hurricane from Bryan Air Field in Texas. This daring flight, prompted by a bet with British pilots training at the base, involved a single-engine AT-6 trainer and a navigator. The flight into the hurricane near Galveston, Texas, demonstrated the feasibility of collecting data within these storms, marking the beginning of the Hurricane Hunters mission.
Elaboration:
Bet and Daring Flight:
Duckworth, a flight instructor, took off with his navigator, Lt. Ralph O'Hair, into the eye of a hurricane. This was not just a flight into the storm; it was a deliberate act of flying straight into its core.
Second Flight:
After successfully returning, the base's weather officer, Lt. William Jones-Burdick, also went on another flight into the storm with Duckworth. This second flight further solidified the idea of collecting data within hurricanes.
Foundation of Hurricane Hunting:
Duckworth's flights, and the subsequent creation of the 3rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron (later the 53rd WRS, known as the Hurricane Hunters), established the concept of intentionally flying into hurricanes to gather meteorological data.

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Consider the symmetry of the history of Rellis: we have a retired 4 star general, a warthog and viper driver- as president of Texas A&M at a time when Rellis is increasingly stepping up on the national stage. What's been accomplished under Chancellor Sharp and what's about to be…extraordinary.

Are we ready for what's next? It puts silly debate about baseball fields into perspective, if you let it.

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Yancy '95
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Where will the bombers hold their practices?
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tbone94 said:

Where will the bombers hold their practices?
They'd have to lease field somewhere...high schools, private schools, Travis Field, new College Station fields. Not sure how much they practice before the season, but they have games six days a week.

 
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