Strange situation with citation

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Yesterday I received a letter from an attorney's office hundreds of miles away claiming to represent a county two counties over. It says I have a speeding citation from 2022 they are trying to collect and I failed to appear in court. Problem is, I've never been pulled over in that county let alone received a citation, never received notice to appear, and the listed drivers license number is not even close to mine. The only thing accurate is my name and address. There are also typos in the letter so I assumed scam and was going to trash. My husband gets curious and tries to look up the case number with my real DL and nothing shows. He looks it up with my last name and boom there it is again with correct name and address. Search another database with my DOB and again nothing. Search with the listed DL and my DOB and nothing. Basically, nothing at all makes sense. I'm assuming some type of administrative mistake, someone is out there with a fake ID impersonating me, or the law firm was hired to track down the person that failed to appear in court and that person happens to have my name. Anyone ever hear of something like this?
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I'd call either the agency or court associated with the ticket and find out directly.
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Sounds like a scam.
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maroon barchetta said:

Sounds like a scam.

FTA warrants aren't something to screw around with. I've had one for not paying an expired registration ticket. Police will come to your work and arrest you with zero warning.

Easier to be an adult, call the courts associated, and talk to them to ensure it's not real. If OP is finding information on "some website" it may be legit bad info entered into the system. We don't know if they're looking on the court's website. I got a warning back in December from DPS with the wrong license plate and vehicle on it. I've never even owned that type of car before. Mistakes happen.
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I'm not saying to disregard it and not make some follow-up calls. I'm saying it sounds like it will ultimately be a scam.
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Don't call any number given to you in the letter or by somebody trying to contact you. Call the court directly and ask them about it.
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txags92 said:

Don't call any number given to you in the letter or by somebody trying to contact you. Call the court directly and ask them about it.

You call back after you confirm it's a scam. Keep them on the line for hours promising you're on the way to get them the gift cards required to settle up.

Its glorious
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It is 100% a legitimate case and the attorney office is legit. But it pays to have contacts. A couple texts and someone is resolving it at the courthouse now. They think the attorney office used AI/web/database scraping tools and the algorithm said I was a good enough match.
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Final update. Deputy contact pulled case files and yes, only association with me is a shared first and last name. I appear nowhere in the case files. Vehicle I've never owned, email address I've never had. No warrants for me and nothing else for me to do.
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And law enforcement/county courts wonders why they are almost universally distrusted
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Will you share the name of the group that sent it to you so in case others see the same thing? Its likely they sent more than one letter.

The other possibility is that the group reaching out to you had a misidentification in their research and just grabbed the wrong person. In other words, not a scam.
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The Fife
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That's the kind of Citation I was expecting to find here!
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AlphaBean said:

Final update. Deputy contact pulled case files and yes, only association with me is a shared first and last name. I appear nowhere in the case files. Vehicle I've never owned, email address I've never had. No warrants for me and nothing else for me to do.


This is exactly what a criminal would say.
AlphaBean
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Oh yes, my husband has been relentless since opening that mail.
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The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But, it's still on the list.
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If you know you never had a ticket in that jurisdiction, I would ignore it

Scams can be so dammed sophisticated.

I had one call me a couple years ago that was pretty involved. Said they were serving me for something. When would I be home. Had A LOT of personal information. Since the possibility of being sure in my business does exist it had a small inkling of possibility. Since I never believe anyone that calls out of the blue I was vague, didn't answer anything and told them to come serve me at their convenience. Hung up. They kept calling. Blocked them. Then they went next level in my experience. They called my wife. She never answers at work, so they left a message. They left me messages too, to call and pay them to make it go away. Ultimately their story broke down. I found it interesting and concerning that they had developed enough enough background information to have my info and my wife's info and a basic amount of background on me. They fell short on how they were going to actually get paid, but they or ai or something had compiled a lot of information.

I have gotten to the point that I don't believe ANYTHING I get phone, email, mail. Whatever.
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AlphaBean said:

It is 100% a legitimate case and the attorney office is legit. But it pays to have contacts. A couple texts and someone is resolving it at the courthouse now. They think the attorney office used AI/web/database scraping tools and the algorithm said I was a good enough match.

What law firm was it?
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Greener Acres said:

Will you share the name of the group that sent it to you so in case others see the same thing? Its likely they sent more than one letter.

The other possibility is that the group reaching out to you had a misidentification in their research and just grabbed the wrong person. In other words, not a scam.



Linebarger Goggan Blair & Sampson out of San Antonio, though I suspect there are countless attorneys across the state working with all the counties. They are legit, case is legit. But it ain't my case.
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AlphaBean said:

Final update. Deputy contact pulled case files and yes, only association with me is a shared first and last name. I appear nowhere in the case files. Vehicle I've never owned, email address I've never had. No warrants for me and nothing else for me to do.



Back in the 1990s my cousin got pulled over and subsequently hauled into Bexar County Jail by SAPD. They were looking for a guy named Mares, but somewhere along the way the handwritten name Mares got keyed into the computer system as Mapes (the same last name of my cousin). A couple of other fields matched, so the cops assumed they had their man. Lawyer told my cousin the best he could expect was a verbal apology from the police and it would be a waste of effort to file suit about a clerical error even though he spent a night in the clink for nothing.

Yeah, that's a story a criminal would tell.
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AlphaBean said:

Final update. Deputy contact pulled case files and yes, only association with me is a shared first and last name. I appear nowhere in the case files. Vehicle I've never owned, email address I've never had. No warrants for me and nothing else for me to do.

My first and last names are both among the top 10 most popular names in the US. So I can't wait to see what I get.

When we were checking into the hospital for kid #2, the clerk got her panties in a wad because we had an unpaid bill at the hospital and wasn't going to let us admit. Gee, is it possible that the woman with the same very common first and last names as my wife and my wife were two different people? Especially as the address was from 20 miles away from ours?

This is after we had been in two weeks prior for pre-check in.

Wife was ready to go home, and let the clerk explain it to the OB in the morning. But a family friend and doctor just happened to be there that night checking on a patient, and he made the clerk see the light.

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so the cops assumed they had their man. Lawyer told my cousin the best he could expect was a verbal apology from the police and it would be a waste of effort to file suit about a clerical error even though he spent a night in the clink for nothing.


Yeah EF the police
Tumble Weed
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In 1999 I had a warrant issued for my arrest in Amarillo.

I appeared before the judge and showed him the receipt that I had kept when I paid the ticket. He sent me to the clerk and it was dropped. Just a simple clerical error.

I was fortunate because I happened to keep the receipt in my glovebox. I have always been horrible at keeping up with paperwork. Got lucky with that receipt.
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Did you sell a vehicle and not keep the license plates?
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You should send the law firm an invoice or bill for your hours spent researching and figuring out their error. Just like they would bill you a stupid amount for their time.
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Burdizzo said:

AlphaBean said:

Final update. Deputy contact pulled case files and yes, only association with me is a shared first and last name. I appear nowhere in the case files. Vehicle I've never owned, email address I've never had. No warrants for me and nothing else for me to do.



Back in the 1990s my cousin got pulled over and subsequently hauled into Bexar County Jail by SAPD. They were looking for a guy named Mares, but somewhere along the way the handwritten name Mares got keyed into the computer system as Mapes (the same last name of my cousin). A couple of other fields matched, so the cops assumed they had their man. Lawyer told my cousin the best he could expect was a verbal apology from the police and it would be a waste of effort to file suit about a clerical error even though he spent a night in the clink for nothing.

Yeah, that's a story a criminal would tell.

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