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AgLiving06 said:

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Krill vs Fish oil?

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The studies I have read show krill oil to be better so that's what I've been using.

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Krill oil may lead to faster or more efficient absorption but those differences often disappear in long-term supplementation studies. What matters most is how much EPA/DHA ends up in your cell membranes over time. Fish oil and krill oil can both be effective but Krill oil is WAY more expensive per mg (15x).

Agree with all. I am currently looking into creatine and have been wanting to add it. My last heavy health kick/detox I felt like I kinda over did the supplements but as of now:

B complex that is the mythafolate whatever type as i have a have the 40% MTFKR gene variant

Fish oil
NAC
D3- was deficient and now slight in range so working.

When working on cleaning out my system of booze and just bad sheet in general was on more antioxidant types. Cucumin/Tumeric, coQ10, etc.

ETA: the magnesium that's been noted several times above after dinner.

What dosage of D3? And is it better to take together with K2?

I do 5,000

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What dosage of D3? And is it better to take together with K2?

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My hormone therapist has me taking 10,000 IU of D3 and 90 mcg of K2. I read previously rule of thumb is about 50 mcg of K2 to 5000 IU of D3

ETA: I also have low T levels so may be the reason for the increased dosage. If you haven't had T levels checked I'd highly recommend.

I remember my first creatine kick after plateauing on my workouts. I started noticing a difference after two weeks, and friends started making comments after four. Of course, that was a long time ago, and my recent results have been good but not that good. The only negative side effect, then and now, is occasionally waking up with leg cramps.

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BmtAg96 said:

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What dosage of D3? And is it better to take together with K2?

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My hormone therapist has me taking 10,000 IU of D3 and 90 mcg of K2. I read previously rule of thumb is about 50 mcg of K2 to 5000 IU of D3

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I've been taking 5,000 units of Vitamin D daily for twenty years.

They did a number of blood tests a couple of weeks ago that included one for Vitamin D. The results were 110 ng/mL. According to the text accompanying the report they usual range is 30 ng/mL to 100 ng/mL so I'm slightly high on that, but not much.

I have had an enlarged prostate for more than twenty years. Initially, it was taking a lot of time to start urination -- often 30 to 45 minutes. Also, it never seemed like I was able to get much out.

I started taking Vitamin D to boost my immunity, but over the next few months I noticed that the time to start urination got shorter and shorter. Now, after twenty years of a very enlarged prostate, I can start urination about the same as when I was in my teens and twenties.

The bladder still doesn't hold as much, of course.

Morning

7g Creatine
5g Glycine
2g Taurine

Before Bed

5g Glycine
2g Taurine
750mg Gaba
1g Magnesium Glycinate
1 tsp baking soda dissolved in water

I'm self experimenting ** not recommending

I've been taking D3 gummies 50,000 IU about 3-6x a week + k2-mk7 100mcg, w/ lunch, for the last ~4mo,

Gonna check my levels soon-ish

I am about to start the following daily regiment:

Creatine 5mg
D3 5,000iu + K2 90mcg
Omega 3 (fish oil) 1,200mg + 360 mcg EPA&DHA
Multi vitamin

No headaches from that much D3?

Holy smokes

Certainly that was a typo.

I'm a big fan of Jocko. Lot of his supplements are on sale. I take creatine and his Time War multi supplement pack.

My physician put me on 2 weeks of 50k IU when I had Covid in 2020. I don't think I had issues but my symptoms were not measurable due to COVID.

He said he has patients on that rx full time.

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No headaches from that much D3?

Holy smokes

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nah, i never have been a headache person -- no negative issues with that dose (yes, 50k)



vit-D RDAs are based on the initial thought of vitamin D being a fat soluble vitamin, and not a hormone (what it actually is)

meaning, the validity of upper limit of levels is also in question


this is an interesting, short book (audible, kindle, paper) from a doc in texas
The Optimal Dose

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Not sure how interested I am in reading a book by a guy who's had his license suspended by the state of Texas

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Well I think it's probably no longer valid since he died 3 months ago.

I mean. IMO it's even more valid bc the book is still being sold, and the guy isn't around to defend the actions that had him stripped of his license to practice.

What time of day do y'all take vitamins and do you take them all at once? The omega 3 capsule is huge!

I take fish oils right before bed because I hate burping them up. Magnesium is also before bed

The rest I usually do in the morning, after breakfast

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Gonna check my levels soon-ish

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Did you have your Vitamin D levels checked before taking such a massive dose? What about calcium?

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He said he has patients on that rx full time.

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I sure hope he's tracking for toxicity.

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TikkaShooter said:

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Not sure how interested I am in reading a book by a guy who's had his license suspended by the state of Texas

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Well I think it's probably no longer valid since he died 3 months ago.

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From a "cardiac event" no less.

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I sure hope he's tracking for toxicity.

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Gonna check my levels soon-ish

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Did you have your Vitamin D levels checked before taking such a massive dose? What about calcium?

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ya
I'd have to look again to see exactly but last Sept it was ~50-60,
I was taking 5-10k 3-6x a week prior to that

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Kwade23 said:

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TikkaShooter said:

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Not sure how interested I am in reading a book by a guy who's had his license suspended by the state of Texas

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Well I think it's probably no longer valid since he died 3 months ago.

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From a "cardiac event" no less.

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while it sounds fun to poke at someone going outside the norm,

He was also a paraplegic for ~40+ years, undoubtedly contributing to his cardiac disease

Was not aware he lost his license, but it looks like it was from Medicare fraud ha, and not medical negligence


I would never tell anyone to take such big doses,
But I do agree with the thought that the RDAs are misled and think that maybe the toxicity concerns are overblown (given that it is not a fat soluble vitamin)


I will report back with my levels sometime soon, assuming I'm still alive

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Was not aware he lost his license, but it looks like it was from Medicare fraud ha, and not medical negligence

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I don't know about Medicare fraud. His license was revoked because the "Respondent's continuation in the practice of medicine would constitute a continuing threat to the public welfare" due to issues including unregistered clinics, improper prescribing, and patient safety concerns (fentanyl and patient deaths).

Um yeah Medicare fraud wasn't why he lost his license.

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Um yeah Medicare fraud wasn't why he lost his license.

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My GP on the other hand just sent me a "retirement" email after the feds got him in that big bust that just happened.

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Was not aware he lost his license, but it looks like it was from Medicare fraud ha, and not medical negligence

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I don't know about Medicare fraud. His license was revoked because the "Respondent's continuation in the practice of medicine would constitute a continuing threat to the public welfare" due to issues including unregistered clinics, improper prescribing, and patient safety concerns (fentanyl and patient deaths).

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another pain doc taken down for unsafe prescribing

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During this time, we have admitted over 4700 patients, the vast majority of whom agreed to supplementation with either 5000 or 10,000 IUs/day.

There have been no cases of vitamin D3 induced hypercalcemia or any adverse events attributable to vitamin D3 supplementation in any patient.

Three patients with psoriasis showed marked clinical improvement in their skin using 20,000 to 50,000 IUs/day.

The average serum calcium level in these 2 groups was 9.5 (no D3) vs 9.6 (D3), with ranges of 8.4 to 10.7 (no D3) vs 8.6 to 10.7 mg/dl (D3), after excluding patients with other causes of hypercalcemia.

The average intact parathyroid hormone levels were 24.2 pg/ml (D3) vs. 30.2 pg/ml (no D3).

In summary, long-term supplementation with vitamin D3 in doses ranging from 5000 to 50,000 IUs/day appears to be safe.

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Conclusion
Daily oral intake of vitamin D3 ranging from 5000 IU/d to 60,000 IU/d for several years was well tolerated and safe in both our patients and staff. The mean 25OHD blood levels in our patients appear to take around 12 months to plateau on 5000 IU/d and 10,000 IU/d.

The average 25OHD values we observed in patients taking 10,000 IU/d at 12 months (96 ng/ml) and 16 months (97 ng/ml) are almost identical to what is currently considered to be the upper limit of normal (100 ng/ml) and are approximately

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an article from 2019

this article has nothing to do with our friend Dr Judson Somerville

vit-D levels are checked on almost everyone in adult PCP, endo, neuro, etc clinics;
without supplementation, levels are usually <35ish -- and this is in sunny states -- this is suboptimal

even though the pharmacokinetic risk for D-toxicity hypercalcemia levels is ~250-300+, dont need to drive people up to that level.
the probable near-max therapeutic levels are going to be ~100-150, and clinically (on the population, not individual standpoint), this appears to be quite safe

typical vit-D recs, IMO, should be -- D3 (not d2) 2500 to 5000 IU daily w/ (fatty) food w/ K2-mk7 ~100mcg

Anyone on beta alanine? Currently in the middle of a 3.5g/day build period for 45 days. Still way to early to notice anything, but wondering if anyone else has had any experience with it and if it actually helped with 3-10 min intervals for them or not.

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Anyone on beta alanine? Currently in the middle of a 3.5g/day build period for 45 days. Still way to early to notice anything, but wondering if anyone else has had any experience with it and if it actually helped with 3-10 min intervals for them or not.

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The greatest benefit is in the 1-4 minute range. Marginal gains at best.

Great results with regards to dead skin removal.

I'm not questioning that Vit D has hormonal properties but where are you getting that it is not a fat soluble vitamin? It is long established that KADE are all fat soluble.