Doolittle's Raid - A Family History

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Talked to my grandma today, her first cousin is James M Parker, who was the co-pilot of crew 9 of the Doolittle Raiders. He was also a Texas Aggie, class of 41. He never graduated, joining the Army in November 1940. Here are her recollections.

James' parents, James and May, had gone to Florida to visit James before he shipped out with Doolittle. He told his parents that he couldn't say where he was going, but he would be alright, and they were taking it to the enemy. His parents assumed they were going to Europe to attack the Germans.

Shortly after the raid on Tokyo, the Houston Post had a short writeup in the middle of the front page that said that US Army Air Corps bombers had attacked Tokyo. Uncle James immediately said "that's where Jimmy is."

Jimmy's plane made it to China. They ran out of fuel and bailed out. Jimmy landed in a tree. He could hear someone below him, but didn't want to make a sound for fear it was the Japanese. Finally the other person said "I sure hope you're American!" Realizing they were both Americans, they felt safer.

Jimmy and several other Doolittle Raiders joined up and had to hike to safety. When they would enter a Chinese village, it was usually only elderly and children, as the rest had either died or were off fighting. The Chinese were excited to see the Americans and very hospitable. After the raid, the Japanese attacked a lot of these villages by surrounding them and covering everything with gas, and lighting it on fire. She said that bothered him greatly, that the people who had helped him suffered so horribly at the hands of the Japanese.

Once they linked back up with Doolittle, he told the crew that he fully expected to be court martialed upon return to the US since they lost all the planes. They had no idea they would be hailed as heroes. Once they realized that Doolittle would be promoted, he told the Raiders that anyone who wanted to go with him to the European Theater he would take. Jimmy Parker went with Doolittle and flew out of North Africa.

My grandma said the raid was a turning point for America. Just like the US learned at Pearl Harbor that the ocean wasnt big enough to prevent attack, the Japanese learned that Tokyo could be struck. It gave America the hope it dearly needed after Pearl Harbor.

Jimmy died June 19, 1991. He was 71.

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Very cool story. Thanks for posting it. What an amazing bunch of guys.
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James M. Parker, Jr. 0-421128, Major
Co-Pilot Crew 9


Attended Lon Morris Junior College and Texas A&M College. Enlisted Houston, Texas on November 21, 1940. Graduated from Advanced Flying School as pilot, July 1941. After Tokyo Raid, he served in North Africa as a pilot of light bombardment aircraft. Subsequently served in Europe in the Army of Occupation. Separated from service, June 25, 1947. Decorations include the Distinguished Flying Cross, and the Chinese Army, Navy, and Air Corps Medal, Class A, 1st Grade.
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Thanks! That raid lifted America's spirit and the rest is history!
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Thank God for The Great Generation. All men. They were about protecting country and family. No snowflake narcissists. Thanks for sharing.
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The Dolittle Raid was a swing that did not miss. Reading the book "Thirty Seconds over Tokyo" it was mentioned that Japanese on the ground waved at the planes as they were so low and thinking the planes were Japanese.
The Enola Gay was written off as a "reconnaissance" plane as it was a lone plane.
No fighter planes were "scrambled" to harass it or attempt to shoot in down.
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Moon Shadow said:

The Enola Gay was written off as a "reconnaissance" plane as it was a lone plane.
The Enola Gay was not involved with the Doolittle Raid
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Maybe Moon Shadow knows they are two different events, but was clumsy in writing.

There is a TexAgs poster who had a great uncle on the Doolittle Raid. Maybe he will chime in.
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ABATTBQ87 said:

Moon Shadow said:

The Enola Gay was written off as a "reconnaissance" plane as it was a lone plane.
The Enola Gay was not involved with the Doolittle Raid


Re-read. That's not what he was saying
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Thanks for sharing. Hearing about their experience in China was always something I wondered about. Thanks.
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Jimmy and several other Doolittle Raiders joined up and had to hike to safety. When they would enter a Chinese village, it was usually only elderly and children, as the rest had either died or were off fighting. The Chinese were excited to see the Americans and very hospitable. After the raid, the Japanese attacked a lot of these villages by surrounding them and covering everything with gas, and lighting it on fire. She said that bothered him greatly, that the people who had helped him suffered so horribly at the hands of the Japanese.
They cover this in the recent movie Midway. Absolutely savage what the Japanese did to Chinese civilians.
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81st anniversary bump

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FWIW, the man that planned the raid has an oral history that has been digitized at Columbia University.

That man was Captain Donald B. Duncan, who was an early naval aviator, getting his wings around 1921.

You can listen to him tell the story of his part in the planning of the raid at the link above, audio part 7. Jump ahead to 00:51:07 minutes into part 7. I goes until 01:46:20. The raid would not have happened as it did without him (at least on the navy side of things). He did the legwork to work with Ernie King and Hap Arnold, selected the B-25, tested B-25 take-offs in the Atlantic in February 1942, selected Hornet as the carrier, coordinated with Nimitz and Halsey, laid the plan out to Doolittle, coordinated to get Doolittle and Co. to Alameda and get the B-25s, loaded, etc. I think he should be considered an honorary raider. Probably only Doolittle ever met Duncan, and that's why he's not one, but Duncan made things happen on the navy end.

And another reason to dislike Miles Browning is that Duncan gave the handwritten plan of the raid to him, and Browning didn't save them!

And if you're really nerdy, you can listen to audio parts 7 (~01:55:00 to the end) to 11 (beginning to 01:17:00), and hear his time as captain of USS Essex (CV-9), from his selection as prospective commanding officer, fitting the ship out, getting VF-9 into action for Operation TORCH, commissioning the ship, shakedown, the transit through the Panama Canal, and then on to Hawaii and finally the Marcus and Wake raids, and then his early relief by King. He laid the groundwork for the greatest fighting ship in navy history, even though he was only involved in two raids with her.

Hell, all the clips are pretty fascinating, but you've really got to be a navy nerd to plow through them all. But he seems to have been respected by all, including King, Nimitz, Roosevelt, Towers, etc. And King may have paid him the highest honor when Duncan relayed King telling him "I'll tell you one thing, Duncan, you're no "yes" man."
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Bump for the 83rd anniversary of the raid.
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from the 1943 Longhorn



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My Dad was in ROTC at Ga Tech when Pearl Harbor was bombed. Quit school and flew fighters during the war. I was raised that I had an obligation to serve and should be in ROTC and serve as an officer. Thought I'd go to Tech too but we moved to Texas during the summer before my junior year in high school. Thought I might want to stay in Texas. My Dad had good things to say about A&M having served with Aggies.

We went for an A&M tour my junior year. Our guide was Jimmy Doolittle'66, grandson of General Doolittle. My Dad remembered me asking if the food in Duncan was always that good. He later reminded me that I was so star stuck, I would have thought anything was good. It wasn't long after arriving that I realized he was correct.
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F4GIB71 said:

Our guide was Jimmy Doolittle'66, grandson of General Doolittle.




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https://flighttestmuseum.org/our-team/jimmy-doolittle-iii/

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Jimmy Doolittle III, formerly employed as an engineering test pilot by Denmar Tech Services of Reno NV and is currently employed as a glider tow pilot by Skylark North Glider School of Tehachapi. Retired from his first two flying careers, US Air Force after 30+ years commissioned service and Southwest Airlines after 6+ years, Jimmy's duty titles included: AFFTC Vice Commander, USAF Test Pilot School (TPS) Commandant, Test Wing Deputy for Operations, TPS Ops Officer, A-7/F-5E /F-20 Experimental Test Pilot, A-1/A-7 Fighter/Attack pilot, T-38 and F-16 Instructor Pilot, Forward Air Controller, F-15,/A-10 and YF-17 Flight Test Project Engineer. He flew EC-18, EC-135 and YC-141 in USAF global transoceanic test support and the B737 for Southwest as a line pilot. Jimmy flew more than 200 combat missions in the A-1 Skyraider flying all over Southeast Asia from Nakhon Phanom Royal Thai Air Base. He is a graduate of USAFTPS Class 79B and was a member of the Cadet Corps at Texas A&M completing a BS and MS in Mechanical Engineering. Jimmy has more than 12,000 hours of flying time in about 100+ different types of aircraft and is a Fellow and former President of the Society of Experimental Test Pilots, a member of the AFA, EAA, and Daedalians, a former Scout leader, married 56 years, father of two Eagle Scouts, a grandfather, and an avid outdoorsman. Jimmy is a longtime board member and former Chairman of the Board of Directors of the FLIGHT TEST HISTORICAL FOUNDATION and is a Life Patron of the Flight Test Historical Foundation.

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As a youngster, I was more likely to have as heroes war heroes such as Jimmy Doolittle than ball players, although I did have a couple of those as well. But I had no idea that Doolittle's grandson is an Aggie.
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I just started reading Doolittle's autobiography. It was co-written with Carrol V. Glines who had already written four books about different aspects of Doolittle's life. It's starting out pretty good.

Every one of the crews under his command has their own story of that famous raid. They didn't fly in one formation over Tokyo. In fact the industrial complex that Doolittle hit in central Tokyo was just one of several targets.

Doolittle's B-25 entered Tokyo from the north, flew under a squadron of Japanese fighters that didn't see them, dropped their payload then continued south. He was flying so low that he evaded a squadron of fighters pursuing him by flying around some hills. He ditched his plane in eastern China in a stinky rice paddy. All of his crew members survived but he initially considered the mission a failure because the plan was for the B-25s to make it to Burma where they would be used for bombing missions from there. That became impossible when they had to launch about 400 miles farther from Tokyo than planned because they thought the Hornet had been spotted by the Japanese. Doolittle actually thought he might be court marshaled if he made it home.
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I just finished the Doolittle autobiography, "I could never be so lucky again".

In the appendix he details what happened to each crew. Lt. James H. Parker is mentioned as the co-pilot of crew no. 9. It bombed a Tokyo Gas and Electric plant on the shore of Tokyo Bay, south of the city. All crew members survived.

Doolittle says that it was this crew's escape that triggered the Japanese vengeance which resulted in an incredible 250,000 Chinese citizens being massacred.

I found he story of Doolittle's life to be amazing. What I didn't realize was that in the 1920/30s he was one of the most famous stunt and racing pilots in America, maybe second to only Lindberg. He set multiple speed and endurance records, e.g. for the fastest coast to coast trip across the US. He tells the story in a completely self-deprecating manner.

He was grounded several times for antics during his early stint in the military. Once, as co-pilot of a two seater biplane he crawled out of the cockpit, onto the wing then onto the landing gear where he perched himself for landing. To win a $5 bet. Another time he chased some geese into a canyon and didn't leave himself room to get out and crash landed. For fun he buzzed a couple of soldiers on the ground. They didn't duck and he clipped one of their heads with a wheel and crashed. He was afraid he had killed the soldier, and vice versa.

He left the Air Corps in the early 30s to go to work for Shell for $600 per month vs the $200 the army was paying him. On his first day on the job he was going to fly one of the company's most expensive airplanes to relocate his family. He overloaded the plane with his wife and two sons and tried to takeoff in the snow, wrecking the plane and doing more damage than a year's salary.

He tells in detail how Douglass Mc Arthur rejected him as Pacific commander because of his reckless reputation (and though he didn't say it, maybe out of fear that Doolittle might get too much publicity). And how he embarrassed himself by putting his foot in his mouth during his first meeting with Eisenhower.

He's truly on the short list of greatest American heroes. His book, written when he was 91, is well worth the read.
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McInnis.....was recommended to me, and finished it earlier this year. Like you mentioned, I have a whole new appreciation for everything else he did; racing/testing/etc....Almost like his accomplishments never ended.
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I was privileged to have got to meet Gen. Doolittle in 1979 while working at a CAF air show. My mom worked for the township of Olmos Park ( SA). At that time Col. Edward J. "Ski" York was city manager and my mom's boss and close friend. Colonel York was the pilot of plane #8 of the Doolittle Raiders and was also Doolittle's Operation Officer. Colonel York was the only West Point grad in the group. His plane was the one that went to Russia.
Colonel York knew of my involvement of the CAF and my interest in WWII aviation history….and that my dad had been a crew chief for a B-25 in WWII. For three years he took artwork that I gave him to the annual Doolittle Raiders Reunions and had all the Raiders that attended it each year sign the pictures for me.
They hang in our house and are some of my most precious possessions.
Sadly Colonel York passed away in 1984 at only 72.
I read Gen Doolittle's biography when it was first published in 1991. What a great read!
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Gunny456 said:

For three years he took artwork that I gave him to the annual Doolittle Raiders Reunions and had all the Raiders that attended it each year sign the pictures for me.
They hang in our house and are some of my most precious possessions.
Obligatory

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Was passing through Columbia, SC last week, and a freeway intersection north of the airport is named "Doolittle Raiders Intersection". If you're like me and wondered why, the present CAE airport was their first home, until Doolittle decided it was too public and moved them to Florida

https://www.southcarolinapublicradio.org/sc-news/2022-04-18/doolittle-raid-begun-in-south-carolina-sees-80th-anniversary?_amp=true

Columbia was planning a Raiders Museum, I don't know how far it got

https://carolinanewsandreporter.cic.sc.edu/museum-to-be-built-in-columbia-to-honor-wwiis-doolittle-raiders/

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Currently reading "Target Tokyo". Great and informative read I would recommend
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My mom's second cousin was in the Doolittle raid. Can't remember his name but he was from Texas. He also crash landed in China and made it back to the U.S. A few months after the raid he was killed in a training mission plane crash in Louisiana. To go thru that and die in a training mission. Crazy.
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James Doolittle was on my company's board of directors in the early 80's. I will see if I can find a picture of me with him. I did not realize how short he was. As they say, he played way bigger than he was.
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Forgot to add a few years ago I was in the HO and at a meeting with the company archivisit and there was a picture of Doolittle in the room. She said the Doolittle family asked if the company would return any photos of the General that did not involve any of company activities. The family was gathering as much memorbilia to be sent to one of the Air Force museums. She said our company was able help out.
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Tx Ag72 said:

James Doolittle was on my company's board of directors in the early 80's. I will see if I can find a picture of me with him. I did not realize how short he was. As they say, he played way bigger than he was.


He was 5'4". In his book he said that when he was young other kids would try to bully him and that's what led him to becoming a boxer who was always at the top of his weight class while in high school then during his early days in the military.
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After following this thread and reading Doolittle's autobiography, I stumbled across this in the library and checked it out. It tells of the war crimes trial of the Japanese officials who were involved in the sham trial of the captured Doolittle Raiders. I found it very interesting and can highly recommend it.

Spoiler alert - here's a summary.

Two of the sixteen crews were captured. There were 8 survivors.

All the survivors were tortured to sign blank confessions, put on trial which lasted an hour, were not given legal representation, then sentenced to death. Hirohito commuted the sentences of five of the eight to life imprisonment. One of these men died in captivity, the other four were liberated at the end of the war.

Four Japanese officials were put on trial. The trial was far from black and white. Two of these were scapegoats (I think). None were executed, and were sentenced from 5 to 8 years.

There were five officials much more responsible for what happened. One of them committed suicide after Japan's surrender, three were tried for other war crimes in the Tokyo tribunal, including Hideki Tojo. The fifth was shielded from prosecution by MacArthur after having helped demobilize Japan's military.

And unfortunately there's strong evidence that two of the B-25s did strafe civilian facilities including a school where a young boy was killed. This in spite of Doolittle's strong instructions before the raid where he warned the crews to attack only military or industrial targets. In fact, in Doolittle's book he said that he himself passed up an opportunity to strafe a legitimate target as he was leaving Japanese air space out of concern over how that could cause the Japanese to treat any POWs they might take.


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