Modern DNA Testing Uncovering WWII Rapists?

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AgRyan04
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The historical movie thread and this Cheddar Man/relative DNA match story got me thinking.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/the-family-link-that-reaches-back-300-generations-to-a-cheddar-cave-1271542.html

Kinda dark, but I did some quick, rudimentary Google searches but didnt uncover anything.

We have all read about the attrocities that the Red Army (or any any Army for that matter) commited against the German female popluation as they advanced through Germany into Berlin.

Have there been any instances where some people get linked up on Ancestory.com or some DNA site in the modern era only to discover that their (great) grandfather had been a perpertrater.

I suppose you coukd ask the same question in a less dark manner, and it just be consensual liberated/liberator but with unknown or "lost" partners.

With the technology we have now, its bound to happen at some point.

It would actually make for a pretty interesting movie or mini-series....could have multiple story lines from then and now that end up weaving together. The war from each of their perspectives. Did he survive the war? Did she survive the war? What paths did their families take post-war all the way up to now.....kinda like a Kennith Follett book series
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aalan94
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Certainly possible. Even though the number of US rapists is small, it's more likely to find them than the Russians. Or at least specific Russians. I say that because probably very few Russians are submitting their DNA into databases. So the answer would be some German guy or gal does a DNA kit and it doesn't say Vlad from Vladivostok, but hits as some kind of European/Urals or something.

I have seen a lot of videos on YouTube where American servicemen who served in Korea and the Philippines in the 60s and 70s are getting matches with their kids. In those cases, or at least the ones where they talk to a news crew, it's all consential, one-night flings, etc. But rape is possible in those cases.
Rabid Cougar
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Amerasians kids from Viet Nam in the 70's ... thousands of them ... vast majority not the results of rapist...

I saw kids in Afghanistan that certainly didn't look like they belonged there.
Martels Hammer
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Rabid Cougar said:

Amerasians kids from Viet Nam in the 70's ... thousands of them ... vast majority not the results of rapist...

I saw kids in Afghanistan that certainly didn't look like they belonged there.
Alexander the Great's Army?
Belton Ag
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If you took DNA samples from every ethic Slav or Pole in Central and Eastern Europe you'd probably find a lot of German DNA mixed in dating from around 1939 to 1942.

If you took DNA samples from every ethnic German in the same region and Eastern Germany, you'd probably find a lot of Russian DNA dating from around 1944-1948.

One of the many tragedies of wars of conquest.
Sapper Redux
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Martels Hammer said:

Rabid Cougar said:

Amerasians kids from Viet Nam in the 70's ... thousands of them ... vast majority not the results of rapist...

I saw kids in Afghanistan that certainly didn't look like they belonged there.
Alexander the Great's Army?


Fair skin, red hair, and blue eyes are found in western and central Asian populations. Rare, but normal. Alexander's army wouldn't have looked that out of place with most people in the Persian empire.
CanyonAg77
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DNA testing is already discovering affairs and incest. Finding wartime rapes and affairs would not be a surprise.

I would like to do some DNA testing, not that I expect a surprise, but I am not interested in giving info to databases who will do as they will with it
AgRyan04
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But it could make a great book or movie, right!?!
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AgRyan04
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CanyonAg77 said:

DNA testing is already discovering affairs and incest. Finding wartime rapes and affairs would not be a surprise.

I would like to do some DNA testing, not that I expect a surprise, but I am not interested in giving info to databases who will do as they will with it


Same!
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RebelE91
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A friend of mine was born in 1970, and her mom is Korean and born around 1940. My friend did the 23&me and the results game back that she was 1/4 Japanese and 1/4 Korean. They asked her mom about it the mom threw a big fit, made lots of accusations about their motives, and the scene was so ugly my friend never mentioned it it to her mother again.
Tecolote
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Martels Hammer said:

Rabid Cougar said:

Amerasians kids from Viet Nam in the 70's ... thousands of them ... vast majority not the results of rapist...

I saw kids in Afghanistan that certainly didn't look like they belonged there.
Alexander the Great's Army?
Probably Russians from 1979 on.

Know many Germans and some are former East German. As disgusting and awful as the rapes by the Soviets were, the East German women even were encouraged to not try to abort pregnancies from Soviet rapes. They knew the German male population was almost nonexistent and at least children from Caucasian Soviets would pass as German.
Aggie Dad 26
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Sapper Redux said:

Martels Hammer said:

Rabid Cougar said:

Amerasians kids from Viet Nam in the 70's ... thousands of them ... vast majority not the results of rapist...

I saw kids in Afghanistan that certainly didn't look like they belonged there.
Alexander the Great's Army?


Fair skin, red hair, and blue eyes are found in western and central Asian populations. Rare, but normal. Alexander's army wouldn't have looked that out of place with most people in the Persian empire.


I saw a lot of grown Afghan men with pale skin, red beards

I was told when we were there it was related to the Russians and rape/relationships from previous wars
OldArmyCT
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Friend of mine bought a car in SF when he came home from Vietnam, drives it to Oklahoma. Spent a night in Arizona and screwed a bar girl he met. 50 years later his "daughter" contacts him, she discovered this thru a 23 & Me search. He gets tested again, she's really his daughter, she doesn't want anything but to meet but they now have a relationship and he put her in his will (which is substantial).
combat wombat™
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OldArmyCT said:

Friend of mine bought a car in SF when he came home from Vietnam, drives it to Oklahoma. Spent a night in Arizona and screwed a bar girl he met. 50 years later his "daughter" contacts him, she discovered this thru a 23 & Me search. He gets tested again, she's really his daughter, she doesn't want anything but to meet but they now have a relationship and he put her in his will (which is substantial).


I was contacted on ancestry by a lady who was born in Jamaica. Her mother had been a singer in a club/bar. My dad was a marine and was briefly in Jamaica. He's got another daughter. My dad, sister, and I all did our DNA and we were all matches.
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