one safe place said:

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A. G. Pennypacker said:

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Hank the Grifter said:

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Pichael Thompson said:

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Hank the Grifter said:

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Y'all are ridiculous.
Absolute hyperbole and just a desire to be miserable.

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Or they're just describing what they watched on film....

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Give me a break. IF you watched the film and still think the catastrophizing in the comments is warranted, you're either an idiot, can't think for yourself, just plain miserable, or all three. There were 2 bad passes total in a drill.

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But what about the drops?

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The drops are just us holding back the playbook. Think about it, all the film our opponents can get of us throwing the ball shows us (purposefully) dropping most of the passes. Then in a game they then don't bother to play defense against our receivers and our guys are wide open, no defenders nearby. Could be a touchdown, or, I suppose, we could drop the pass.

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Ha ha!

Throws and catches look much better with pads on. Maybe we really were just warming up like was actually reported.

Bunk Moreland said:

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the most cool guy said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Bobaloo said:

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Mike Leach said throwing accuracy is the #1 trait when evaluating a QB. Either the QB has it or doesn't have it.

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Oh please, not this again.

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It's not incorrect.

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Mike Leach designed offenses around a QB being able to throw dink and dunk passes to wide open receivers before a pass rush could affect their ability to deliver the ball. Target practice and it never led to amazing Pro Quarterbacks or elite success in college for a team.

The current NFL MVP completion % by year:

Wyoming: 56%
Wyoming: 56.3%
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(Buffalo)
2018: 52.8%
2019: 58.8%
2020: 69.2%
2021: 63.3%
2022: 63.3%
2023: 66.5%
2024: 63.6%

The current Super Bowl MVP completion % by year:
Alabama: 62.8%
Alabama: 60.6%
Alabama: very few snaps as backup
Oklahoma: 69.7%
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(Philly)
2020: 52%
2021: 61.3%
2022: 66.5%
2023: 65.4%
2024: 68.7%

And spare me before you make the next obvious response that everyone always does when they say "completion % doesn't = accuracy" because that was basically how Mike Leach viewed it given the completion % of all his QB's over the years.

I happen to agree it's not the only factor, but it's a major one. And players have proven they can get much better and more accurate through development. They don't just either 'have it or not' at age 20 and be locked in for life.

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You don't want to go there. Overall completion percentage is meaningless. Any college QB, including Reed, can throw enough quick passes and check downs to have a positive completion percentage. The three worst quarterbacks for us in recent history (Hubenak, Calzada, and Haynes King) still had completion percentages of 56% 56.3% and 55.6%.

What Reed cannot do (so far) is throw the ball accurately downfield. His adjusted completion percentage for passes 20+ yards is 27.8%. For reference, Haynes King's adjusted completion percentage for 20+ yard passes at GT last year was 52%.

Since you were the one who started making these ridiculous comparisons, Josh Allen's career 20+ yard completion percentage in the NFL is 63.3%. Jalen Hurts' is 64.4%.

Reed wasn't the starter all of year last year, and he should get a chance to show he can lead the team. But a 27.8% downfield completion percentage is not good, and it is cause for major concern. There were many downfield plays to be had last year. Reed did not see them and did not make them. That was a major part of our offensive failure.

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You don't want to go there. Overall completion percentage is meaningless.

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And there it is.

So "he's not accurate" and also when people do increase accuracy over time, "that's meaningless."

Yet when I point out that Leach's comment vs his accuracy/completion % stats show that he very much cared about that, we're also told that Leach was amazing and his statement (that you either are accurate or you aren't and it can't be taught) is 100% true.

Or you do what Aggie Dad did and spin it off to an argument that nobody else was having by saying "is the most important aspect."

Glad we got full circle in just a few hours' time.

Bunk Moreland said:

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You don't want to go there. Overall completion percentage is meaningless.

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And there it is.

So "he's not accurate" and also when people do increase accuracy over time, "that's meaningless."

Yet when I point out that Leach's comment vs his accuracy/completion % stats show that he very much cared about that, we're also told that Leach was amazing and his statement (that you either are accurate or you aren't and it can't be taught) is 100% true.

Or you do what Aggie Dad did and spin it off to an argument that nobody else was having by saying "is the most important aspect."

Glad we got full circle in just a few hours' time.

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Whoa! So "Mike Leach said throwing accuracy is the #1 trait when evaluating a QB. Either the QB has it or doesn't have it."

And most important aspect are different... how?
I was supporting Mike Leach's idea. Did you miss that?

Bogey1996 said:

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I fully expect us to live and die with Reed this year. Hopefully it is for the best. I would not be surprised if Brady Hart takes over next year. Before he reclassified, he was a top 100 recruit.

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Casuga starts next year if neither of these current guys look great this year.

Bunk Moreland said:

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You don't want to go there. Overall completion percentage is meaningless.

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And there it is.

So "he's not accurate" and also when people do increase accuracy over time, "that's meaningless."

Yet when I point out that Leach's comment vs his accuracy/completion % stats show that he very much cared about that, we're also told that Leach was amazing and his statement (that you either are accurate or you aren't and it can't be taught) is 100% true.

Or you do what Aggie Dad did and spin it off to an argument that nobody else was having by saying "is the most important aspect."

Glad we got full circle in just a few hours' time.

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I'll take that as your surrender since you couldn't respond to the substance of my post.

You made no attempt to have the discussion, which was me pointing out someone else saying Leach's comment that someone is either 'accurate or they aren't' is not true. We've heard this over and over, and there are plenty of examples of QB's developing and improving accuracy as their time goes on in their career.

Also, Your use of AI/Google to try and prove me wrong is also incorrect on JA17 and Hurts, as those percentages you pulled are their career passing completion %'s in the league, not beyond 20+ yards. Had you clicked the Statmuse link you'd have seen that.

There's two passes being thrown by two qb's how do you know what pass is from who

You watch where the ball goes when they release it

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You watch where the ball goes when they release it

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You're so predictable

Has Reed been definitely named the starter?

(I mean, by Elko, and not the Zoo.).

northeastag said:

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Has Reed been definitely named the starter?

(I mean, by Elko, and not the Zoo.).

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I don't believe he has but is anyone willing to bet money against Reed?

I have to remind myself when watching these types of videos that we don't really know at what point in the practice this is taking place, what they are actually trying to achieve, etc...

That said, boy this looks real bad.

northeastag said:

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Has Reed been definitely named the starter?

(I mean, by Elko, and not the Zoo.).

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Elko has referred to Reed as the starter on many occasions, as have all the players and the rest of the staff.

A bad warmup pass won't change that.

Here is every throw of 10-15+ yards from Texas A&M QB Marcel Reed (with no defenders) that I captured across a few periods of practice today. pic.twitter.com/7tgD2a8YAh

— Carter Karels (@CarterKarels) August 7, 2025

Aggie Dad 26 said:

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4 said:

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You watch where the ball goes when they release it

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You're so predictable

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Just like the passes in the video

Oof. Those out and ups were rough.

vander54 said:

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Here is every throw of 10-15+ yards from Texas A&M QB Marcel Reed (with no defenders) that I captured across a few periods of practice today. pic.twitter.com/7tgD2a8YAh

— Carter Karels (@CarterKarels) August 7, 2025

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Seems like a much better day

Gruden style "better execution " is what we need!

Disaster averted. Back to 9-3.

the most cool guy said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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the most cool guy said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Bobaloo said:

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Mike Leach said throwing accuracy is the #1 trait when evaluating a QB. Either the QB has it or doesn't have it.

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Oh please, not this again.

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It's not incorrect.

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Mike Leach designed offenses around a QB being able to throw dink and dunk passes to wide open receivers before a pass rush could affect their ability to deliver the ball. Target practice and it never led to amazing Pro Quarterbacks or elite success in college for a team.

The current NFL MVP completion % by year:

Wyoming: 56%
Wyoming: 56.3%
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(Buffalo)
2018: 52.8%
2019: 58.8%
2020: 69.2%
2021: 63.3%
2022: 63.3%
2023: 66.5%
2024: 63.6%

The current Super Bowl MVP completion % by year:
Alabama: 62.8%
Alabama: 60.6%
Alabama: very few snaps as backup
Oklahoma: 69.7%
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(Philly)
2020: 52%
2021: 61.3%
2022: 66.5%
2023: 65.4%
2024: 68.7%

And spare me before you make the next obvious response that everyone always does when they say "completion % doesn't = accuracy" because that was basically how Mike Leach viewed it given the completion % of all his QB's over the years.

I happen to agree it's not the only factor, but it's a major one. And players have proven they can get much better and more accurate through development. They don't just either 'have it or not' at age 20 and be locked in for life.

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You don't want to go there. Overall completion percentage is meaningless. Any college QB, including Reed, can throw enough quick passes and check downs to have a positive completion percentage. The three worst quarterbacks for us in recent history (Hubenak, Calzada, and Haynes King) still had completion percentages of 56% 56.3% and 55.6%.

What Reed cannot do (so far) is throw the ball accurately downfield. His adjusted completion percentage for passes 20+ yards is 27.8%. For reference, Haynes King's adjusted completion percentage for 20+ yard passes at GT last year was 52%.

Since you were the one who started making these ridiculous comparisons, Josh Allen's career 20+ yard completion percentage in the NFL is 63.3%. Jalen Hurts' is 64.4%.

Reed wasn't the starter all of year last year, and he should get a chance to show he can lead the team. But a 27.8% downfield completion percentage is not good, and it is cause for major concern. There were many downfield plays to be had last year. Reed did not see them and did not make them. That was a major part of our offensive failure.

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Haynes King was 23 last year and had been in a college program since COVID, had started at QB for multiple years under two different coaches at two different schools. Reed was in his 2nd year and 19-20 years old getting his first meaningful playing time in an offense that was designed for someone else. Would you like to go back to King's first year of meaningful playing time and see what the results were?

Dear lord you people are miserable.

northeastag said:

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Has Reed been definitely named the starter?

(I mean, by Elko, and not the Zoo.).

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Elko from media days

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"We have quarterback Marcel Reed primed to take a huge jump this year," Elko said. "... He's a leader in his own way as he now steps into being the face of our program and the quarterback of our program."

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Zackdh9 said:

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vander54 said:

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Here is every throw of 10-15+ yards from Texas A&M QB Marcel Reed (with no defenders) that I captured across a few periods of practice today. pic.twitter.com/7tgD2a8YAh

— Carter Karels (@CarterKarels) August 7, 2025

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Seems like a much better day

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They are in pads. We throw and catch better in pads. And not when we are just warming up.

Haynes King was not a good fit for Jimbo's offense. He's a good fit for G Tech's. End of story.

Ag1188 said:

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Bogey1996 said:

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I fully expect us to live and die with Reed this year. Hopefully it is for the best. I would not be surprised if Brady Hart takes over next year. Before he reclassified, he was a top 100 recruit.

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Casuga starts next year if neither of these current guys look great this year.

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Love it. Put it out there. Don't be afraid to call for that backup QB - even if he isn't in school yet.

I'll agree with this. Not knocking Marcel or anybody but I'd like to see the HUN kid play some.

Speaking of the Hun school, the school is named after the founder. I always thought there was some connection to German people. My bad. Sounds like a good place though. Didn't know some kids live there.

In 2024, Reed was #5 in the SEC in QBR. The top 3 are gone this year and #4 is Nussmeier. I trust last season's performance more than watching a few passes in practice. And I expect Reed to be improved in his Sophomore season!

4D chess. These videos aren't allowed to be taken if it wasn't staged. Love the disinformation campaign