Panthers Rookie EDGE Nic Scourton in Preseason Week 1:
— PFF College (@PFF_College) August 9, 2025
🔵 91.8 PFF Grade
🔵 1.0 Sacks | 2 QB Pressures
🔵 90.6 Pass Rush Grade
🔵 28% Win Rate@AggieFootball pic.twitter.com/DMDLipV3Au
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Elite pass rusher before we got him, good pass rusher while we had him, elite pass rusher after he leaves. Our d-line coaches did not coach up our NFL talent last year
ahpetty33 said:
Elite pass rusher before we got him, good pass rusher while we had him, elite pass rusher after he leaves. Our d-line coaches did not coach up our NFL talent last year
We haven't coached up our talent in a few years. Hoping Elko figures out a way to address that!
ahpetty33 said:
Elite pass rusher before we got him, good pass rusher while we had him, elite pass rusher after he leaves. Our d-line coaches did not coach up our NFL talent last year
...or a player hit cruise control after a solid 6 games when draft grades started being released...
ahpetty33 said:
Elite pass rusher before we got him, good pass rusher while we had him, elite pass rusher after he leaves. Our d-line coaches did not coach up our NFL talent last year
Elko's d-lines under Jimbo were also terrible at rushing the passer. I'm no expert, But I think someone smarter said his base strategy is more of a contain and stop the run than a get up the field and possibly run out of the play. I also remember the SC game where we did get up the field and had easy sacks, only for the SC QB with crisco on his jersey to slip away for huge gains.
If Nic was truly on "cruise control", then I still would consider it a coaching issue. If player is not performing to the top of their ability, it is the coaches responsibility to get the effort from the player or make a change.
Him and Shemar was in La La Land vs sips. Of course, our bad luck, and sip luck
He was hurt.
Do you find it AMAZING that players get to the NFL and are ALL STARS....at A&M they were .......Good !
NEXT YEAR IS HERE.......again
Would have been awesome if he showed up in our last 3 games.
There should be DIL penalties for that crap.
There should be DIL penalties for that crap.
ahpetty33 said:
Elite pass rusher before we got him, good pass rusher while we had him, elite pass rusher after he leaves. Our d-line coaches did not coach up our NFL talent last year
What'd you expect when we hired the DL coach and DC from the worst front 7 team in the SEC in Florida
Kids who have their NFL draft status decided and who are playing not to get hurt don't care what a coach says. And it's not like we had anyone else who was going to be any better than the half-ass effort some of our DL were giving.LV98AG said:
If Nic was truly on "cruise control", then I still would consider it a coaching issue. If player is not performing to the top of their ability, it is the coaches responsibility to get the effort from the player or make a change.
fightinag said:
Do you find it AMAZING that players get to the NFL and are ALL STARS....at A&M they were .......Good !
Like who?
examples ?
MaroonStain said:ahpetty33 said:
Elite pass rusher before we got him, good pass rusher while we had him, elite pass rusher after he leaves. Our d-line coaches did not coach up our NFL talent last year
...or a player hit cruise control after a solid 6 games when draft grades started being released...
Still unacceptable. We need to reevaluate who we're paying large sums of money to and putting out on the field if we have players hitting cruise control just to get through the season and get to the NFL.
Johnny Boyziel 2 said:fightinag said:
Do you find it AMAZING that players get to the NFL and are ALL STARS....at A&M they were .......Good !
Like who?
You serious Clark?
If serious, both DL's this thread is about are examples. Plus both Bennett brothers, even more so Mike. Kyle Allen (while not an all-star in the NFL, a guy who couldn't even play for us manages a multi-year NFL career with a lot of starts). I guess you could put Tannehill in there too. A pretty good QB for us who turned that into a decade+ quarter billion career earnings NFL tenure. Ricky Seals-Jones is another.
ccolley68 said:Johnny Boyziel 2 said:fightinag said:
Do you find it AMAZING that players get to the NFL and are ALL STARS....at A&M they were .......Good !
Like who?
You serious Clark?
If serious, both DL's this thread is about are examples. Plus both Bennett brothers, even more so Mike. Kyle Allen (while not an all-star in the NFL, a guy who couldn't even play for us manages a multi-year NFL career with a lot of starts). I guess you could put Tannehill in there too. A pretty good QB for us who turned that into a decade+ quarter billion career earnings NFL tenure. Ricky Seals-Jones is another.
This place never ceases to amaze me. The two defensive lineman that haven't even played in a regular season game yet are already NFL all stars? The only real nfl all star you mentioned is Mike Evans, and he was an all star when he played here.
ETA Michael Bennett made the pro bowl several times and was also good here
It's as if you think players' primary interest is winning, school spirit, and loyalty.the most cool guy said:MaroonStain said:ahpetty33 said:
Elite pass rusher before we got him, good pass rusher while we had him, elite pass rusher after he leaves. Our d-line coaches did not coach up our NFL talent last year
...or a player hit cruise control after a solid 6 games when draft grades started being released...
Still unacceptable. We need to reevaluate who we're paying large sums of money to and putting out on the field if we have players hitting cruise control just to get through the season and get to the NFL.
texag101 said:It's as if you think players' primary interest is winning, school spirit, and loyalty.the most cool guy said:MaroonStain said:ahpetty33 said:
Elite pass rusher before we got him, good pass rusher while we had him, elite pass rusher after he leaves. Our d-line coaches did not coach up our NFL talent last year
...or a player hit cruise control after a solid 6 games when draft grades started being released...
Still unacceptable. We need to reevaluate who we're paying large sums of money to and putting out on the field if we have players hitting cruise control just to get through the season and get to the NFL.
Not sure where you came up with "school spirit" and "loyalty" from what I said. I don't expect either of those.
I do expect players here to be interested in winning, like the players at winning programs are.
WorkTogetherAgs said:Panthers Rookie EDGE Nic Scourton in Preseason Week 1:
— PFF College (@PFF_College) August 9, 2025
🔵 91.8 PFF Grade
🔵 1.0 Sacks | 2 QB Pressures
🔵 90.6 Pass Rush Grade
🔵 28% Win Rate@AggieFootball pic.twitter.com/DMDLipV3Au
Much better him than Brice.
texag101 said:Kids who have their NFL draft status decided and who are playing not to get hurt don't care what a coach says. And it's not like we had anyone else who was going to be any better than the half-ass effort some of our DL were giving.LV98AG said:
If Nic was truly on "cruise control", then I still would consider it a coaching issue. If player is not performing to the top of their ability, it is the coaches responsibility to get the effort from the player or make a change.
What do you mean by "decided"? He was a top 10 pick that played his way out of the first round altogether. Meanwhile there were consensus first round picks all over the country playing like… consensus first round picks. I don't follow you
What do you think a college player wants more between: (1) great personal stats/performance + a loss; (2) lousy personal stats/performance + a win? I realize there are other combinations, but your choice between these two will explain where we're at. Hint….players are in college to make it to "the league". (Or maximize their NIL if they fall short.). Winning is secondary. When a player is convinced his draft stock is solidified, he's going to shut it down, as we've repeatedly seen.the most cool guy said:texag101 said:It's as if you think players' primary interest is winning, school spirit, and loyalty.the most cool guy said:MaroonStain said:ahpetty33 said:
Elite pass rusher before we got him, good pass rusher while we had him, elite pass rusher after he leaves. Our d-line coaches did not coach up our NFL talent last year
...or a player hit cruise control after a solid 6 games when draft grades started being released...
Still unacceptable. We need to reevaluate who we're paying large sums of money to and putting out on the field if we have players hitting cruise control just to get through the season and get to the NFL.
Not sure where you came up with "school spirit" and "loyalty" from what I said. I don't expect either of those.
I do expect players here to be interested in winning, like the players at winning programs are.
Never heard of him. Smart to save his energy for the NFL I guess.
NewEra2023 said:ahpetty33 said:
Elite pass rusher before we got him, good pass rusher while we had him, elite pass rusher after he leaves. Our d-line coaches did not coach up our NFL talent last year
What'd you expect when we hired the DL coach and DC from the worst front 7 team in the SEC in Florida
If you think Sean Spencer is a bad DL coach, you don't know **** about football.
He was great at Penn State 10 years ago but if we dont put up at least 30 sacks this year w/ Elko calling plays it will be telling.
LV98AG said:
If Nic was truly on "cruise control", then I still would consider it a coaching issue. If player is not performing to the top of their ability, it is the coaches responsibility to get the effort from the player or make a change.
Say it again
Johnny Boyziel 2 said:fightinag said:
Do you find it AMAZING that players get to the NFL and are ALL STARS....at A&M they were .......Good !
Like who?
Michael Bennett
I guess that Nic is an Aggie, although he probably doesn't really consider himself one. Pretty short stint here. Still seems weird to have all of these transfers floating in and out.
NewEra2023 said:
He was great at Penn State 10 years ago but if we dont put up at least 30 sacks this year w/ Elko calling plays it will be telling.
We missed about 30 sacks last year because guys couldn't tackle. Hell, we missed at least 6 sacks against SCar. And there was that sack whiff against Ewers that resulted in a 30 yard run.
Our pass rush was plenty good last year. Our ability to actually tackle the QB and get the sack was where the problem was.
Who do you blame for that? the coaches? or the players?
Not sure on the coaching issue. Cashius Howell was the most consistent DL throughout the season. Scourton started off strong the first 6-7 games, but then just seemed to disappear after the Missouri game.
Glad he is doing well in the Pro's so far.
Glad he is doing well in the Pro's so far.
4 said:Johnny Boyziel 2 said:fightinag said:
Do you find it AMAZING that players get to the NFL and are ALL STARS....at A&M they were .......Good !
Like who?
Michael Bennett
Michael Bennett was an undersized DE that developed into an NFL quality player while here and continued to get better.
Stupid example.
fightinag said:
Do you find it AMAZING that players get to the NFL and are ALL STARS....at A&M they were .......meh !
FIFY
The loss of Terry Price really hurt defensive line performance