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Elko fined shows that Snakey and the SEC office is a freaking joke

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Luke The Drifter said:

Do y'all really believe the "prove it" crap you're demanding? Did you not watch the game? Heck...my wife even pointed out in real time he was faking an injury and she knows NOTHING about football. I am of the mindset the punishment should have been much more harsh. The injury faking garbage is completely bush league (yes...even if we are the ones doing it).

I actually wish the punishment for this type of garbage was more harsh and included suspension of the player as well...or at least making the player sit out the rest of the game.

I like Coach Elko a whole lot, but I hope he's throwing a chair at the staffer who was on the sidelines telling our guy to get down.



It looked like a cramp.

We have literally no history of doing this at any point under Elko.
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the more coolest guy said:

Next time we just clap in the form of a T and stop the clock….no harm, no foul.

I cannot believe that Kirby was not sanctioned for this BS.
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Luke The Drifter said:

Do y'all really believe the "prove it" crap you're demanding? Did you not watch the game? Heck...my wife even pointed out in real time he was faking an injury and she knows NOTHING about football. I am of the mindset the punishment should have been much more harsh. The injury faking garbage is completely bush league (yes...even if we are the ones doing it).

I actually wish the punishment for this type of garbage was more harsh and included suspension of the player as well...or at least making the player sit out the rest of the game.

I like Coach Elko a whole lot, but I hope he's throwing a chair at the staffer who was on the sidelines telling our guy to get down.





Have you ever had a cramp? One second you are OK and the next you are withering in pain.
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A. G. Pennypacker said:

AggieNattie said:

AcctAg11 said:

Did he fake it? Or did he cramp?

It honestly looked like a fake from the stands. One of our staffers on sideline signaled for him to go down

Doesn't necessarily mean he's faking. Could mean he was injured but could have got off the field on his own, but was told to get down.

I have had to tell players on the soccer team I coach to go down rather than just tell me from the field that they are hurt. Play will not stop unless you go down. Sometimes a player needs to be told.
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If he was wearning any other jersey besides Texas A&M, all of y'all would say he was faking it.
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Jawn Dough said:



If he was wearning any other jersey besides Texas A&M, all of y'all would say he was faking it.

Show me a single instance this year or last where we faked an injury?

Where you perceive malice, I look for context. There is no context in our program.
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Jawn Dough said:


If he was wearning any other jersey besides Texas A&M, all of y'all would say he was faking it.


I watched the vid and it doesn't show him going down.
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We always bend over and take it.
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All you can say is he signaled like he need to go off at the end of the play and then went down. Maybe there is a better angle but would not be shocked if he was signaled in response.
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If we were charged with a timeout then what is the problem?
Jawn Dough
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Heineken-Ashi said:

Jawn Dough said:



If he was wearning any other jersey besides Texas A&M, all of y'all would say he was faking it.

Show me a single instance this year or last where we faked an injury?

Where you perceive malice, I look for context. There is no context in our program.

There's a first time for everything.

Chappell wasn't even a part of the tackle. He was perfectly fine. Looked over to the sideline and then suddenly fell down on his ass.

If that ain't faking an injury, I don't know what is.

Take off your Aggie blinders.
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The fact that A&M was fined before Ole Miss was is the real shocker to me.
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Logos Stick said:

Luke The Drifter said:

Do y'all really believe the "prove it" crap you're demanding? Did you not watch the game? Heck...my wife even pointed out in real time he was faking an injury and she knows NOTHING about football. I am of the mindset the punishment should have been much more harsh. The injury faking garbage is completely bush league (yes...even if we are the ones doing it).

I actually wish the punishment for this type of garbage was more harsh and included suspension of the player as well...or at least making the player sit out the rest of the game.

I like Coach Elko a whole lot, but I hope he's throwing a chair at the staffer who was on the sidelines telling our guy to get down.





Have you ever had a cramp? They don't sneak up on you. One second you are OK and the next you are withering in pain.

Um, that's the definition of "sneaking up on you".
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Logos Stick said:




Have you ever had a cramp? They don't sneak up on you. One second you are OK and the next you are withering in pain.

So, do they sneak up on you or not?
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I like this, a lot. They are starting a discussion about the dollar value on fairness on the field.

I'm all for referring our differences with the SEC into the financial domain.

Let's start discussing the financial impact of putative bias in officiation. I honestly am not so interested in how much money we'd be entitled to as remedy; but simply the process of having that discussion should be adequate to fund programs that will actually scrutinize, and bring transparency to, the performance & fairness of officiation outcomes. As a bonus, it'll put extra focus on (agreeing how to determine) how a given officiation mistake can impact the outcome of a game, a season over many games, and a program over many seasons.
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Jawn Dough said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Jawn Dough said:



If he was wearning any other jersey besides Texas A&M, all of y'all would say he was faking it.

Show me a single instance this year or last where we faked an injury?

Where you perceive malice, I look for context. There is no context in our program.

There's a first time for everything.

Chappell wasn't even a part of the tackle. He was perfectly fine. Looked over to the sideline and then saddenly fell down on his ass.

If that ain't faking an injury, I don't know what is.

Take off your Aggie blinders.

The guy that spent all of last year injured, on a team that hasn't faked an injury before, goes down with what looks like a cramp, in a game where we can't afford to lose a timeout or be assessed a penalty, and your first assumption is that we faked an injury?

If I have on Aggie blinders, then you need to take off your moron cap.
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Jawn Dough said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Jawn Dough said:



If he was wearning any other jersey besides Texas A&M, all of y'all would say he was faking it.

Show me a single instance this year or last where we faked an injury?

Where you perceive malice, I look for context. There is no context in our program.

There's a first time for everything.

Chappell wasn't even a part of the tackle. He was perfectly fine. Looked over to the sideline and then suddenly fell down on his ass.

If that ain't faking an injury, I don't know what is.

Take off your Aggie blinders.


Can you show us?
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Snakey is a steaming pile of *****
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Hank the Grifter said:

Logos Stick said:

Luke The Drifter said:

Do y'all really believe the "prove it" crap you're demanding? Did you not watch the game? Heck...my wife even pointed out in real time he was faking an injury and she knows NOTHING about football. I am of the mindset the punishment should have been much more harsh. The injury faking garbage is completely bush league (yes...even if we are the ones doing it).

I actually wish the punishment for this type of garbage was more harsh and included suspension of the player as well...or at least making the player sit out the rest of the game.

I like Coach Elko a whole lot, but I hope he's throwing a chair at the staffer who was on the sidelines telling our guy to get down.





Have you ever had a cramp? They don't sneak up on you. One second you are OK and the next you are withering in pain.

Um, that's the definition of "sneaking up on you".




OK, they don't manifest themselves gradually.
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Logos Stick said:

Jawn Dough said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Jawn Dough said:



If he was wearning any other jersey besides Texas A&M, all of y'all would say he was faking it.

Show me a single instance this year or last where we faked an injury?

Where you perceive malice, I look for context. There is no context in our program.

There's a first time for everything.

Chappell wasn't even a part of the tackle. He was perfectly fine. Looked over to the sideline and then suddenly fell down on his ass.

If that ain't faking an injury, I don't know what is.

Take off your Aggie blinders.


Can you show us?

I posted the vid. Watch it yourself.
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A. G. Pennypacker said:

AggieNattie said:

AcctAg11 said:

Did he fake it? Or did he cramp?

It honestly looked like a fake from the stands. One of our staffers on sideline signaled for him to go down

Doesn't necessarily mean he's faking. Could mean he was injured but could have got off the field on his own, but was told to get down.

He also went down after the ball was placed or something along those lines... so the timing of when he dropped played into this as well
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Texmexag said:

Interesting, is the SEC fined for the performance of their referees? Do they compensate schools for poor performance of their employees that may change the outcome of a game?

The only people in sports who are never, ever held accountable are the refs, other than in the rarest, most extreme circumstances, and even then it usually ends up being a slap on the wrist.

Players, coaches, announcers, ADs, staff, etc. etc. etc. can get penalized, fined, or fired.

Okay, back to my usual haunt.
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Jawn Dough said:

Logos Stick said:

Jawn Dough said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Jawn Dough said:



If he was wearning any other jersey besides Texas A&M, all of y'all would say he was faking it.

Show me a single instance this year or last where we faked an injury?

Where you perceive malice, I look for context. There is no context in our program.

There's a first time for everything.

Chappell wasn't even a part of the tackle. He was perfectly fine. Looked over to the sideline and then suddenly fell down on his ass.

If that ain't faking an injury, I don't know what is.

Take off your Aggie blinders.


Can you show us?

I posted the vid. Watch it yourself.


I did.

I dont see him "being fine, looking at the sideline, and suddenly falling on his rear" in the vid you posted. I don't see him at all until the ref waves play dead and he's on the ground and the cam is on him from above.
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Is this the first time an SEC team has had a questionable injury that may have been faked?

Was this the most egregious occurrence?

Unfortunately, I doubt the answer is yes to either of these questions.
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Why would he fake an injury knowing they would be charged a timeout when all they had to do was call a timeout?

Or is it believed he reacted to the "play calling" too late?
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Jawn Dough said:

Logos Stick said:

Jawn Dough said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Jawn Dough said:



If he was wearning any other jersey besides Texas A&M, all of y'all would say he was faking it.

Show me a single instance this year or last where we faked an injury?

Where you perceive malice, I look for context. There is no context in our program.

There's a first time for everything.

Chappell wasn't even a part of the tackle. He was perfectly fine. Looked over to the sideline and then suddenly fell down on his ass.

If that ain't faking an injury, I don't know what is.

Take off your Aggie blinders.


Can you show us?

I posted the vid. Watch it yourself.

How about you watch. Bottom of the screen in the slot. Can't plant his foot to stay with the receiver and is barely jogging after him. Then looks over at the sideline and throws his hands up. Previous play, he tried running off the field and someone told him to go back on.

Something wasn't right. It wasn't a fake.



Excited to hear your rebuttal.
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Logos Stick said:

Jawn Dough said:

Logos Stick said:

Jawn Dough said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Jawn Dough said:



If he was wearning any other jersey besides Texas A&M, all of y'all would say he was faking it.

Show me a single instance this year or last where we faked an injury?

Where you perceive malice, I look for context. There is no context in our program.

There's a first time for everything.

Chappell wasn't even a part of the tackle. He was perfectly fine. Looked over to the sideline and then suddenly fell down on his ass.

If that ain't faking an injury, I don't know what is.

Take off your Aggie blinders.


Can you show us?

I posted the vid. Watch it yourself.


I did.

I dont see him "being fine, looking at the sideline, and suddenly falling on his rear" in the vid you posted. I don't see him at all until the ref waves play dead and he's on the ground and the cam is on him from above.

You're being willfully obtuse. The telecast showed the replay of him doing exactly that if you actually bothered to watch more than 5 seconds.
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Previous play where he tries to run off the field.

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AcctAg11 said:

Did he fake it? Or did he cramp?

Quote:

Steve Shaw, the national coordinator of football officials, reviewed video of the situation submitted by the SEC which occurred with 12:36 remaining and Texas A&M leading 38-27. Prior to Chappell going down, a Texas A&M staff member can be seen on video standing near the 25-yard line signaling to Chappell and pointing to the ground.


Chappell had no contact during the previous play and showed no signs of injury until he sat down and pointed to his right leg. Texas A&M was flagged and charged a timeout because Chappell presented as injured after the ball was spotted.

The senior cornerback returned to the game on the second play of Arkansas' next offensive drive.
"As determined by the National Coordinator, the action by player, especially with the concurrent action by the coach in the team area, is a clear attempt to gain an unmerited advantage by stopping the game to be awarded an injury time out," the conference said in its release. "The action violates the spirit of the injury timeout and fair play and was conducted in a manner that appears to attempt to circumvent the NCAA's injury time out rule to avoid the team being charged a time out."

The conference also issued a public reprimand to Texas A&M coach Mike Elko for the feigned injury violation. A second feigned injury would result in another reprimand and a $100,000 fine. Any further violations of the policy would result in Elko receiving a one-game suspension.

The SEC said further violations will result in additional fines and potentially the suspension of coaches, assistants or players.

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Jawn Dough said:

Logos Stick said:

Jawn Dough said:

Logos Stick said:

Jawn Dough said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

Jawn Dough said:



If he was wearning any other jersey besides Texas A&M, all of y'all would say he was faking it.

Show me a single instance this year or last where we faked an injury?

Where you perceive malice, I look for context. There is no context in our program.

There's a first time for everything.

Chappell wasn't even a part of the tackle. He was perfectly fine. Looked over to the sideline and then suddenly fell down on his ass.

If that ain't faking an injury, I don't know what is.

Take off your Aggie blinders.


Can you show us?

I posted the vid. Watch it yourself.


I did.

I dont see him "being fine, looking at the sideline, and suddenly falling on his rear" in the vid you posted. I don't see him at all until the ref waves play dead and he's on the ground and the cam is on him from above.

You're being willfully obtuse. The telecast showed the replay of him doing exactly that if you actually bothered to watch more than 5 seconds.


Ah ok. I didn't watch that far. An intelligent person would have started the vid at that point since that's where the evidence is! It's not as obvious as you claim.
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Sorry that you couldn't figure it out on your own and needed a little bit of hand-holding.
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5 Dollar Footlong said:

AD should tell the SEC we will pay the fine as soon as tu gets around to identifying and expelling those who threw garbage on the field during Georgia last year or following up with jerking their liquor privileges.

In the meantime get bent.



So much this
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Heineken-Ashi said:

Jawn Dough said:



If he was wearning any other jersey besides Texas A&M, all of y'all would say he was faking it.

Show me a single instance this year or last where we faked an injury?

Where you perceive malice, I look for context. There is no context in our program.


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Both can be true... he was injured and we utilized it to gain an advantage. If you watch the series as someone mentioned earlier Chappel wanted to come off or was gassed and the coaches said he had to keep playing and suck it up as coaches often do. Then when he got beat like a drum the next play I'm sure the coaches up top were on the headset to get him out and then the GA signaled for him to go down. Yes it was an attempt to game the system to not have to sub or use a timeout for an injured player but I dont feel like it was an attempt to simply just slow down the Hog tempo becuse we had been dealing with their pace of play all game and they had not done anything extrememlly different on that drive with regard to hurry up or no huddle.
 
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