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Origins of BAS?

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Has anyone done any research to figure out who coined the phrase "Battered Aggies Syndrome" ?

I am assuming it originated from this forum, should be fairly easy to figure out who we should give credit to...
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Must've been '99. That was a rough year for the pre-season #5 defending BigXII Champs.
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SELECT * FROM Posts_Table WHERE Post_Contents LIKE '%Battered Aggie Syndrome%' ORDER BY Post_Date
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I'm old (Class of '94). When I was in school, we kicked ass and had swagger. I couldn't have imagined BAS.
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2007!?!

Crazy
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dabo man said:

I'm old (Class of '94). When I was in school, we kicked ass and had swagger. I couldn't have imagined BAS.

But Couldn't win a bowl game or against a top 25 team.
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Asking ChatGPT " What is battered Aggie syndrome?" is actually quite accurate
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For me? @Clemson 2005.
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77-0..... it started with Fran....
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His name was Jack Burton.
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The weeks before the BAS appears in TA…
November 3, 2007: Texas A&M lost to Oklahoma 42-14.
November 10, 2007: Texas A&M lost to Missouri 40-26.
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panhandlefarmer said:

For me? @Clemson 2005.


Oh dammit why'd you have to remind me of that game.

But yes, that one did it for me too.
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panhandlefarmer said:

For me? @Clemson 2005.

That was the year their chubby kicker did the promo photoshoot and we made fun of him all offseason.

He kicked 6 FGs that night. Their only offensive points. They returned a punted, and well, there you go.

I was there. It was painful
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2007? 2005? 1999?

You youngsters crack me up.

BAS has been a thing for the better part of a century now, and probably longer.
It's only received its near DSM-5 designation until recently, but its lived in and among us from the very start.

My father, class of '57, at A&M during the Bear Bryant years and a baseball letterman, described how in the ensuing decades that followed the Bryant years, the faithful had to resort to kissing their dates on 1st downs as there was precious little scoring on the field to celebrate.

BAS has roamed Kyle Field since those days, and my guess it probably even dates back to when the doors opened at the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas. It is in our DNA.

There have been select few that vanquished its effect for some time...certainly Jackie Sherrill from my era and hopefully it is completely and finally conquered under the Elko era.
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Mods: to finish off the last vestiges of BAS, delete post and ban user.
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I really believe it started 2002 vs Texas Tech. Up 35-17 end of 3rd Quarter.

We missed two extra points that game (!). Game ended up going to OT and we lost.

Kingsbury and Welker killed us. It was like the foreshadowing to the UCLA game and all the other collapses where we lost games we never should have.

We hired Fran the next year and the entire program went into the abyss.
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tamc91 said:

77-0..... it started with Fran....


That G-awful OU game. 11-8-2003

This was a dominant victory for the top-ranked Sooners, who scored all their points in the first three quarters against an Aggie team that was unable to cross midfield. The game is also remembered as Oklahoma's revenge for Texas A&M knocking them from the #1 spot in the previous season. It was nauseating but we've still never been licked.
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Circa 1940
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Quote:

My father, class of '57, at A&M during the Bear Bryant years and a baseball letterman, described how in the ensuing decades that followed the Bryant years, the faithful had to resort to kissing their dates on 1st downs as there was precious little scoring on the field to celebrate.

BAS has roamed Kyle Field since those days, and my guess it probably even dates back to when the doors opened at the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas. It is in our DNA.

My maternal grandfather was class of '25. He had season tickets through 1980. I can't imagine the futility he witnessed.

But he didn't spend his days suffering and self-loathing. He just went about his life until the next game. BAS was created on TexAgs.
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They actually used that term, BAS, on ESPN this morning.

Everybody reads TexAgs.
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dabo man said:

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My father, class of '57, at A&M during the Bear Bryant years and a baseball letterman, described how in the ensuing decades that followed the Bryant years, the faithful had to resort to kissing their dates on 1st downs as there was precious little scoring on the field to celebrate.

BAS has roamed Kyle Field since those days, and my guess it probably even dates back to when the doors opened at the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas. It is in our DNA.

My maternal grandfather was class of '25. He had season tickets through 1980. I can't imagine the futility he witnessed.

But he didn't spend his days suffering and self-loathing. He just went about his life until the next game. BAS was created on TexAgs.


You can't have battered anything syndrome, when you are never given any hope that things will get better. Part of what makes battered syndrome is the batterer promises you things will be better next time. And you are suspicious that's not the case, but you cautiously wait to see if it turns out to be true. And then things get better for a while. And then you start believing that awful thing that happened really is in the past and you will never be hit with that again. And at that very moment....
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It's ironic that BAS is indeed the opposite of Battered Wife Syndrome.
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Feels like the mid early 00s to me.

Sherrill, RC (who won the big xii in its second year). All to start collapsing in the early aughts.

The hope of Fran the man in Aggieland. To 77-0. To… well… the rest is history.

Many flashes in the pan. Lots of great starts. Lots of near misses over the last 25 years.

Many upsets, but absolutely effing zero big games… prime time… when it's two great teams… the Ags folded. Just about without exception. For 25 years.

And so. BAS became a thing.

Today's winner for the General Board Burrito Lottery is:

Tex117
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dabo man said:

I'm old (Class of '94).

Yeah man, you're a pretty old dude, alright.
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third deck said:

2007? 2005? 1999?

You youngsters crack me up.

BAS has been a thing for the better part of a century now, and probably longer.
It's only received its near DSM-5 designation until recently, but its lived in and among us from the very start.

My father, class of '57, at A&M during the Bear Bryant years and a baseball letterman, described how in the ensuing decades that followed the Bryant years, the faithful had to resort to kissing their dates on 1st downs as there was precious little scoring on the field to celebrate.

BAS has roamed Kyle Field since those days, and my guess it probably even dates back to when the doors opened at the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas. It is in our DNA.

There have been select few that vanquished its effect for some time...certainly Jackie Sherrill from my era and hopefully it is completely and finally conquered under the Elko era.

I was a student during the 4 seasons ('58-'61) following Bryant's departure for Alabama. During those 4 years our overal football record was 12-24-4. We ended up in last place in the SWC in '59 and '60 with zero conference wins both years.,. In 12 games against tu, Arkansas and TCU we never won a game. The closest we came was a 14-14 tie against TCU in 1960. The 4 years after I graduated ('62-'65) were even worse than my 4 with an overall 9-30-1 record,

We had 3 tie games in 1960 including a 0-0 tie vs, SMU which gave rise to the yell "Tie the hell outa (opponent)." I was born in 1940, 8 months after we won the MNC so I had been conceived as of that game, but don't remember much of it. As of my 35th birthday in Sept. 1975 our overall record against tu was 3-32-1.
Hearing those SOBs singing that "poooor Aggies" year after year after year, just remebering it now gats my anger and hatred for tu all stirred up again.

Finally, as far as BAS goes, try being a fish in the Corps in 1958 after a foootball loss and go back to Dorm 17 and have a bunch of angry "A" Armor pissheads hazing you as if you were personally responsible for the loss and you'll know what I'm talking about. A few olds on TexAgs probably know, but I expect most of you have no clue.

Anyhow, enough history lesson for one night!

Charlie Wallace, AMC '62
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BAS started for me in Boulder in 1995…

Didnt start calling it that till 2016
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TexanJeff said:

BAS started for me in Boulder in 1995…

Didnt start calling it that till 2016



This is the answer……..
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So it's pretty clear the first time it appeared was November of 2007

I like a previous poster had a dad that was '57 for those old Ags , they knew they were the underdog , they were ok with it , they did not have expectations of winning , they were proud never quit and hated the t-sips

Jump forward 20 years and enough of these guys had made enough money and they wanted to elevate A&M to a serious football program. Expectations were raised coaches got fired and eventually Jackie was brought in and for 10 glorious years we were 9-1 against the horns

From that success came BAS A generation of young Aggies had tasted success and shed there identity as gritty underdogs and now were what they believed to be Alpha Dogs


The Fran disaster happened and because these Ags remembered the greatness they "could not quit" Aggie football because of how good it used to make them feel and they believed A&M was the sleeping Giant that was going to permanently leave Tu in the dust and become a true elite program

For those who suffer from BAS it is real because they can't quit Aggie Football, they are always expecting the worst to happen and they wanting to feel like it did when we were beating tu regularly or had JFF and the new SEC membership seemed like a ticket to The Promised Land
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BAS started the minute after the 1940 sip game. We found a way to Aggie it up and lose. If we win that game, we go undefeated into the bowl game and have a great chance to win a back to back Natty. It took a massive turn for the worst when we lost to Colorado in 95.
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At the sugar bowl 98 season for me

That punt with a few minutes left down by 14 told me we just accept defeat but play football safely.
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What's curing it is Elko going for it on 4th down on our own 35 in the first quarter against Arky.
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My uncle is ab Armor 54 dad is C Armor 58, I know exactly what you are talking about!!
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krosch11 said:





that post from 2007 is so money, so on point and topical. Jack Burton, are you still on this site? is he the satoshi nakamoto if the most infamous phrase in the aggiesphere?


It is a phrase that is literally everywhere. TV, YouTube, Radio...

Is this the original post?
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Demo_Slug said:

dabo man said:

I'm old (Class of '94). When I was in school, we kicked ass and had swagger. I couldn't have imagined BAS.

But Couldn't win a bowl game or against a top 25 team.


RC is where it started he choked every bowl game and important road games. The other thing was all the schools around us were awful. Once ou hired stoops he was in trouble.
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