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We would have to hop either Oregon or Ole Miss.

That would require the committee to follow either of their own rules:

That SOS and SOR are the primary data points

OR

That the loss of players or coaches are taken into consideration.

They are going to have to lie about both.

And they will.
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We definitely need to make a media push to get ahead of OM.
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TxAgswin said:

We would have to hop either Oregon or Ole Miss.

That would require the committee to follow either of their own rules:

That SOS and SOR are the primary data points

OR

That the loss of players or coaches are taken into consideration.

They are going to have to lie about both.

And they will.

If we were named Alabama or tu, we would. Sorry though, we're Texas Aggies.
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Don't expect the committee to do anything to help A&M.
Regardless of what is right or logical.
Artorias
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Tulane winning helps OM resume
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VikingNik said:

We definitely need to make a media push to get ahead of OM.


Better do it quick the selection show is tomorrow
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Don't hold your breath. I'm never gonna count on those d bags to do the right thing
TxAgswin
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yep.

Put out a story about how Colin Klien is fully focused on the task at hand and there is zero turmoil in the program and the Aggie family couldnt be prouder of the opportunities he has after the season...unlike sime other places...dont just hint at that...

Post that Moss is at 100% and never felt better.
.dies not matter if it is true or not.

Also, we should just state our case...Loudly.

Why not?
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In a just world, A&M would be 5, but I, for one, am okay with hosting Miami. Don't care to play Bama only because I don't want to play a conference opponent in the 1st round - even though I think A&M matches up with Bama better than Miami.
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Artorias said:

Tulane winning helps OM resume
So does UGA winning sec championship as that's their only loss to sec champ. We aren't jumping either Oregon or ole miss as their only losses are to their conference champs.
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yeah...do all this **** right now

Hey Looch...you up?
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If we were named Alabama or tu, we would. Sorry though, we're Texas Aggies.

It's worse than that. They don't even know we're the Texas Aggies, they think we're the Texas A&M Aggies
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TxAgswin said:

SOS and SOR are the primary data points

Oregon SOS and SOR are equivalent to ours. Maybe better now that Indiana won the conference.

Ole Miss is helped by both Georgia and Tulane winning their conferences.

Quote:

loss of players or coaches are taken into consideration

I'd put the odds of this actually lowering OM's ranking at less than 50%.

I wouldn't count on us moving from 7. And that's okay. Just win, baby!
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Why on earth would they move us ahead of any of those teams given they're in front of us already and none of us played today. Lol

They gave Ole Miss the benefit of the doubt because their coach left. They didn't want to punish them by making their 2nd round opponent be whoever we as a 7-seed will have to play.
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Again, the CFP committee just can't shake the human nature of recency bias and also equating 11-1 or 12-0 teams and conference champs.

If, IF, they followed their own stated metrics, Tx Technical would have been the lowest rated 11-1 team last week, period, and would be tomorrow as well.

Techs best non-con win is Oregon State, who lost to Sam Houston. Fully 1/2 of the Big 12 is lower rated than our best non-conference opponent not named Notre Dame. BYU is about as good as Kentucky and they are the 2nd best Big 12 team. It's a joke.
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SOS and SOR are rankings - therfore cant be equivalent. We rank ahead of Oregon in both.

Our SOS is better than all of the teams ranked ahead of us in the current CFP
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Do you all think we flip with Ole Miss to avoid the rematches of Ole Miss & Tulane and A&M vs ND?
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Ag1188 said:

Why on earth would they move us ahead of any of those teams given they're in front of us already and none of us played today. Lol

They gave Ole Miss the benefit of the doubt because their coach left. They didn't want to punish them by making their 2nd round opponent be whoever we as a 7-seed will have to play.

The committee claims they consider changes in coaching and players. The debacle at Ole Miss hadn't fully played out by Tuesday, so they might make a change based on that. I doubt it, I agree with you, but that's why a change might occur despite no games being played among 5-8. I don't think anything will change though
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TxAgswin said:

SOS and SOR are rankings - therfore cant be equivalent. We rank ahead of Oregon in both.

We currently rank ahead of Oregon by 1 spot for both. And Indiana winning the conference may have just flipped that. I don't think there is a strong argument for Oregon to be ranked behind the good guys. They are in an equal position to us in their conference and their loss is of higher quality than ours.
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No ND moves up to 9 and plays OU
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Room40 said:

Do you all think we flip with Ole Miss to avoid the rematches of Ole Miss & Tulane and A&M vs ND?

I don't think they'll rematch us with ND but it'll be bc they put Miami at 10. Nothing to do with OM
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Room40 said:

Do you all think we flip with Ole Miss to avoid the rematches of Ole Miss & Tulane and A&M vs ND?

I guess we'll find out how much the committee hates rematches.
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dixichkn said:

Room40 said:

Do you all think we flip with Ole Miss to avoid the rematches of Ole Miss & Tulane and A&M vs ND?

I don't think they'll rematch us with ND but it'll be bc they put Miami at 10. Nothing to do with OM

Yeah but they wouldn't move JMU ahead of Tulane to avoid the Ole Miss rematch IMO. There's a better argument for moving us ahead of OM if the committee wants to avoid the OM-Tulane rematch.
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farmer2010 said:

TxAgswin said:

SOS and SOR are rankings - therfore cant be equivalent. We rank ahead of Oregon in both.

We currently rank ahead of Oregon by 1 spot for both. And Indiana winning the conference may have just flipped that. I don't think there is a strong argument for Oregon to be ranked behind the good guys. They are in an equal position to us in their conference and their loss is of higher quality than ours.



Good points and you're right...their sos and sor record will go up...

So my argument made more sense a week ago actually.

I reserve the right to be an angry old Ag regardless
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TxAgswin said:

SOS and SOR are rankings - therfore cant be equivalent. We rank ahead of Oregon in both.

Our SOS is better than all of the teams ranked ahead of us in the current CFP


This, and our wins @ND @LSU @Mizzou are all better than @PSU
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I think they want no rematches in the first round and good second round games so no ole Miss Tulane or Ags ND or ou bama. To avoid a third bama v Georgia game, if Georgia is 2 as sec champs bama can't be 10 since 7-10'winner plays 2. So bama could be out with Miami and ND both in. Or bama is 9 and Miami is 10 with no Irish.

Tech is over seeded at 4 and we a should be higher than 7. Dropping ole Miss down and maybe Oregon gets some much better matchups. Aggies at 5 hosting JMU, the vs Tech at 4.
6 Oregon hosting 11 Tulane then playing Ohio state. 7 ole miss hosting 10 ND with winner playing Georgia and 8 ou hosting 9 Bama winner facing Indiana. But this is unlikely so who knows?
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there are actually predictions on ESPN that have us hopping Ole Miss...

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/playoffpredictions120625/college-football-playoff-picks-predictions-conference-championships
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farmer2010 said:

TxAgswin said:

SOS and SOR are the primary data points

Oregon SOS and SOR are equivalent to ours.
Oregon's schedule is an absolute joke. There 2 FBS OOC opponents have 3 wins between them.
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LatinAggie1997 said:

TxAgswin said:

SOS and SOR are rankings - therfore cant be equivalent. We rank ahead of Oregon in both.

Our SOS is better than all of the teams ranked ahead of us in the current CFP


This, and our wins @ND @LSU @Mizzou are all better than @PSU

Man Oregon's resume is pretty garbage as far as quality wins. Didn't realize it was that bad.

It just furthers my belief that this conference expansion is horrible and I hate it.

I have said it before and will again. The 12 team playoff would have been perfect in the prior set up where the Big XII was legit and the Pac 10 was around.

You would generally (this year with the ACC is an outlier) have 5 legit and good conference champs.

Like this year you'd have

Pac10-Oregon
Big10-Indiana
SEC-UGA
Big XII-OU (perhaps Tech but they've literally played crap)
ACC-Miami (hopefully the actual best teams would have been able to play the conf title game if it wasn't so diluted with the pac 10 leftovers they added).

So there are 5 teams.

Then you get 7 more teams. Let's say ND, Ohio State, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Ole Miss, maybe a Southern Cal (since they'd just play Pac 10 teams), and maybe Texas.

If some non power 5 team pulled a Boise, UCF, or Cincy and went undefeated they'd get in over some fringe team from a power 5.

The expansion has allowed SEC and Big 10 conference schedules to be diluted and watered down. And in turn a conference like the Big XII has been filled with average teams and very few good ones. I don't know wtf happened to the ACC. No reason they shouldn't be better. But they too have watered down the conference with second rate pac 10 teams and teams they added form non-P5 conferences.
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BTKAG97 said:

farmer2010 said:

TxAgswin said:

SOS and SOR are the primary data points

Oregon SOS and SOR are equivalent to ours.

Oregon's schedule is an absolute joke. There 2 FBS OOC opponents have 3 wins between them.

As of last week,

SOR: A&M 3, Oregon 4
SOS: A&M 16, Oregon 17

Turns out our schedule is only marginally better. And our loss is much worse than theirs.
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farmer2010 said:

BTKAG97 said:

farmer2010 said:

TxAgswin said:

SOS and SOR are the primary data points

Oregon SOS and SOR are equivalent to ours.

Oregon's schedule is an absolute joke. There 2 FBS OOC opponents have 3 wins between them.

As of last week,

SOR: A&M 3, Oregon 4
SOS: A&M 16, Oregon 17

Turns out our schedule is only marginally better. And our loss is much worse than theirs.
Go look at their schedule and make up your own mind. Oregon's schedule is a firey pile of trash.

The Big Ten 9 game conference schedule allows teams to get propped up by a heap of manure. 13 of 18 teams in that conference are bad. USC and MU, are unknowns even with 9 wins because they play garbage conference opponents. Same with Oregon to a slightly better degree. Only IU and OSU are worth a damn in that conference if you really look at it with a magnifying glass.

The Conference OOC is a abject joke.
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I could see Ole Miss passing Oregon with the Tulane win looking even better, just to avoid the rematch. Ole Miss-JMU, Oregon-Tulane, A&M vs. Bama/Miami. 2/3 side of the bracket looking really tough with Ohio State/Georgia. Regardless of how you feel about Tech and Indiana's seasons, I think most teams would prefer to draw them over the more traditional powers with recent hardware.
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farmer2010 said:

BTKAG97 said:

farmer2010 said:

TxAgswin said:

SOS and SOR are the primary data points

Oregon SOS and SOR are equivalent to ours.

Oregon's schedule is an absolute joke. There 2 FBS OOC opponents have 3 wins between them.

As of last week,

SOR: A&M 3, Oregon 4
SOS: A&M 16, Oregon 17

Turns out our schedule is only marginally better. And our loss is much worse than theirs.


The committee doesn't use the ESPN SOS. They use a formula they came up with on a Big Chief tablet. Essentially it only looks at win/loss and thus treats all conferences as equivalent. A win over North Texas counts for more than a win over Missouri. It might even count more than a win over Notre Dame.
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kb2001 said:

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If we were named Alabama or tu, we would. Sorry though, we're Texas Aggies.

It's worse than that. They don't even know we're the Texas Aggies, they think we're the Texas A&M Aggies


I've been telling people this for years.
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