AustinScubaAg said:

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chjoak said:

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Seeing a TON of Xhaka to Chelsea smoke

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Hate to see it but never fault a player for making a move to a better side.

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Better?

Ok bigger not better.

I love the guy but I think this says more about the issues going on with Chelsea.

chjoak said:

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Marti's value just went up

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He's had a good tournament so far in his appearances

AustinScubaAg said:

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Can't cheer for brazil but good for Marti.

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same

gabriel and marti won the game essentially....after gabs gave up the first goal to japan

wangus12 said:

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chjoak said:

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Marti's value just went up

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He's had a good tournament so far in his appearances

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Just goes to show again that we don't really help him by putting him on an island by himself way out to the far left

Aston Villa have come out and said it has to be at least 130m for Morgan Rogers so hopefully we walk away from that. He isn't worth anywhere close to it. Far to inconsistent for that to happen.

Man City have yet again ****ed up the market by pay 120m for Anderson who has had one good season (yes, I know he's massively talented) in the PL. I don't blame Villa for demanded at least 130 for Rogers, but we have now jumped the shark in player valuation. Teams are demanding 100+ for above average players. At this point, only PSG and Man City are going to be able to sign players. I think this might go as far to change how players sign contracts by either requesting affordable release clauses or max 3 year deals. Players and their agents really don't like being held hostage (even if they did sign the contract) and its simply not sustainable for every average player to be worth what teams are demanding now.

Top 5 is a HUGE stretch in my opinion. Not sure he would be top 5 on our team when everyone is fit.

#AVFC consider Morgan Rogers among the top five players in the PL. Believe he is worth more than what Man City are paying for Anderson and the value of other No 10s, including Wirtz, with Rogers more experienced in the PL.

The history of British transfer fees @TheAthleticFC…

— Jacob Tanswell (@J_Tanswell) June 30, 2026

chjoak said:

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Top 5 is a HUGE stretch in my opinion. Not sure he would be top 5 on our team when everyone is fit.

#AVFC consider Morgan Rogers among the top five players in the PL. Believe he is worth more than what Man City are paying for Anderson and the value of other No 10s, including Wirtz, with Rogers more experienced in the PL.

The history of British transfer fees @TheAthleticFC…

— Jacob Tanswell (@J_Tanswell) June 30, 2026

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lol at top 5 in the PL after one pretty good season (that he slowed down at the end of)

chjoak said:

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With this current market, I think I'd rather role the dice on affordable options with upside. Think I would also keep Marti and see if I could adjust tactics a bit to unlock his strengths.

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Agree with this. When he's on, he's really freaking on. The question is if Arteta can bend his tactics to that degree. I'm a bit skeptical that he could, honestly, but the man just led us to the PL title so it's kinda hard to be too critical.

Am I too crazy for thinking that maybe one of those Moroccan wingers would be a good try? I really liked the pace they were flashing last night.

Maximus_Meridius said:

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chjoak said:

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With this current market, I think I'd rather role the dice on affordable options with upside. Think I would also keep Marti and see if I could adjust tactics a bit to unlock his strengths.

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Agree with this. When he's on, he's really freaking on. The question is if Arteta can bend his tactics to that degree. I'm a bit skeptical that he could, honestly, but the man just led us to the PL title so it's kinda hard to be too critical.

Am I too crazy for thinking that maybe one of those Moroccan wingers would be a good try? I really liked the pace they were flashing last night.

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Can he.... yes. Will he.... IDK. We've shown the ability to produce more offensively but our tactics seem to swing between offensive OR defensive but not both. We need to figure out how to be a top defense but also produce more goals. Personally think the answer is quicker, more direct counter attacks rather than slowing down and dominating possession. After we score a couple we can slow things down and kill them with possession. Think that plays heavily into Marti & VG's strengths.

As far as budget options at W.....Think Tzolis has a lot of potential. Seems to be a late bloomer but has had near 1 G+A/90 for the last 3 seasons. Granted that was in lesser leagues but still notable. After him I would be looking at Godts from Ajax, Nusa from Leipzig, Minteh from Brighton, Schjelderup from Benfica, Jesus Rodriguez from Como or maybe even Tillman from Leverkusen.

I wonder if the EPL with take the world cup overreaction to touching the keeper on a corner. The keeper should have no more or less protection than any other player on a corner.

With that said obstruction when it comes to corners is a tough rule to manage for keepers. Unlike a normal player the keeper may be moving to be in position to make a save as apposed to moving to claim the ball. what is obstruction in that context. Giving the keeper unlimited free movement is too far IMO but intentionally moving to block the keeper when not within reasonable playing distance of the ball probably should be a foul.

AustinScubaAg said:

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I wonder if the EPL with take the world cup overreaction to touching the keeper on a corner. The keeper should have no more or less protection than any other player on a corner.

With that said obstruction when it comes to corners is a tough rule to manage for keepers. Unlike a normal player the keeper may be moving to be in position to make a save as apposed to moving to claim the ball. what is obstruction in that context. Giving the keeper unlimited free movement is too far IMO but intentionally moving to block the keeper when not within reasonable playing distance of the ball probably should be a foul.

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The disallowed German goal was BS. If you watch the replay in slow-mo the Paraguay GK hits the German player in the junk. That's why he is "draped" over the GK.

I'm expecting a crackdown on corners, but we don't mess with the keeper near as much as people think we do

chjoak said:

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AustinScubaAg said:

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I wonder if the EPL with take the world cup overreaction to touching the keeper on a corner. The keeper should have no more or less protection than any other player on a corner.

With that said obstruction when it comes to corners is a tough rule to manage for keepers. Unlike a normal player the keeper may be moving to be in position to make a save as apposed to moving to claim the ball. what is obstruction in that context. Giving the keeper unlimited free movement is too far IMO but intentionally moving to block the keeper when not within reasonable playing distance of the ball probably should be a foul.

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The disallowed German goal was BS. If you watch the replay in slow-mo the Paraguay GK hits the German player in the junk. That's why he is "draped" over the GK.

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agreed. There was one angle that made it look like a foul. My gut is that was the only angle they showed the on field ref.

Feel bad for Timber.

PJYoung said:

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Feel bad for Timber.

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which one?

so easy to hate haaland during EPL season, but I'm finding it impossible to hate on him when we're talking about Norway

zgolfz85 said:

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PJYoung said:

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Feel bad for Timber.

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which one?

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Gyokeres and Saliba are really going after it

Jakub Kiwior has joined Porto after the Portuguese side exercised their option to make his loan deal permanent.

All the best, Jakub ❤️

— Arsenal (@Arsenal) July 1, 2026

At least Madueke is having a good game.

AustinScubaAg said:

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I am torn. I want England to win because they likely have a better chance to beat Mexico but want them to lose to give Rice and Saka more rest.

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They have a better chance in theory but they may legit melt in Mex City

AustinScubaAg said:

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I am torn. I want England to win because they likely have a better chance to beat Mexico but want them to lose to give Rice and Saka more rest.

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I want England out as soon as possible. A shame it didn't happen today to a Cinderella rather than having to look to Mexico to do it