***** Official Houston Astros 2025 Season Thread *****

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superaggie73
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Drunken Overseas Bettor said:

Offensively, this team reminds me a lot of the late 90s teams. A couple of monsters in the lineup, but even those guys are mostly making their money off of the caiber of pitchers they're not going to see in the playoffs.

In 97, the Astros scored: 1, 3, 1 in the playoffs = 5 runs (1.67 /game)
In 98, it was: 1, 5, 1, 1 8 runs ( 2 per game)
In 99, it was: 6, 1, 3, 5 (15 runs (3.75 per game)
In 01, it was 4, 0, 2 (6 runs, 2 per game)

So 99 is sort of the outlier, although they lost that one game 7-5.


We saw the weak-ass playoff offense back last last year with 3 total runs vs Detroit. I hope I'm wrong, but the Astros' MO the whole season on offense has been to swing early in counts at pitches that the pitchers obviously want them swinging at, making a lot of soft contact, and being forced to play station to station, but doing so with a very inconsistent commitment to their running game, which is pretty essential if you're having to play small ball by default because outside of Paredes and Caratini, nobody works the count consistently - Yordan gets a free pass for now if he can regain that form, great.

What really concerns me the most is that outside of Jake and Paredes early before their injuries and Walker here lately, the Astros' two biggest offensive improvements didn't happen by managerial strategy or by hitting coach prowess, but by total accident! Pena moved to leadoff on a whim of a suggestion by Altuve, who was having to run in on his stubby little legs from left field and getting tired. Altuve moving to third was because he sucked so hard hitting 2nd and then couldn't hit leadoff again because Pena was killing it.

The last game I was at, the extra inning win over Baltimore when they retire Wagner's jersey, was the case in point of why I think they have little to no shot of making a playoff run. Espada manages like he's a 12 year old playing a video game. Once it's late in the game, he's hitting all of his buttons and going for every pinch hitter, every strategy, every - everything with no regards to how it might impact the game later. In that game, he had a pitcher stuck in the middle of the lineup who they were going to have to bat or burn if Baltimore wasn't a bunch of morons. The other day, they burned Caratini for a single AB and didn't leave him to DH, then Diaz took one on the hand. If that thing is any more serious, you're about to have Dubon playing catcher for the first time ever.

It's just really infuriating and with Hader out indefinitely, the margin of error late in close is just that more razor thin.



The biggest problem with this team is the guy managing it. He looks completely lost at all times and his decisions show it daily. I don't think this club has any confidence in him at all. And when that happens, players will never play to their capabilities or beyond. It's so much easier for a team to play loose and free when they trust the guy making the decisions. And that doesn't mean they don't like the guy. Hell, I'm sure most are tight with him after he was "best friend" and confidant on the bench in his assistant days. He may have been the best bench coach ever, but he is no manager at all. But nobody trusts him at all as a decision maker.
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tjack16 said:

Which of the American League playoff teams would you confidently pick us to beat in a 7 game playoff series?



Well we aren't playing the As, Angels, Rockies, CWS, Rangers or any other bottom feeder so I like changes better than normal.
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Hulla Baller
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EastCoastAgNc said:



Now is NOT the time Harris County. This couldn't have waited until the off season? FFS
Mathguy64
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EastCoastAgNc said:




Is this Dora getting out over her skis here?
txags92
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We are not even a "good" team right now. Our pitching kept us in the division lead despite our lack of offense. We have a +14 run differential, and a -22 home run differential. With our aces now both not pitching the same recently as they were pre-ASB, we are at risk of not even making the playoffs if we can't find a way to start scoring more runs. We don't have the lock down bullpen arms anymore to save us after the starter goes 6. We have too many home games against bad teams left to keep coming out totally flat and not making any effort to hit and run the bases intelligently.
Hornbeck
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Dora needs to put down the crack pipe.

I get it that you guys spent like a bunch of Democratic congressmen, but you're not going to balance that budget on the Astros.
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Hulla Baller said:

EastCoastAgNc said:



Now is NOT the time Harris County. This couldn't have waited until the off season? FFS

would be funny if they replied "Hey at least we waited until Crane signed Carlos and Sanchez"
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txags92 said:

We are not even a "good" team right now. Our pitching kept us in the division lead despite our lack of offense. We have a +14 run differential, and a -22 home run differential. With our aces now both not pitching the same recently as they were pre-ASB, we are at risk of not even making the playoffs if we can't find a way to start scoring more runs. We don't have the lock down bullpen arms anymore to save us after the starter goes 6. We have too many home games against bad teams left to keep coming out totally flat and not making any effort to hit and run the bases intelligently.
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Amazingly that run differential was at/over +60 just 2 to 3 weeks ago. The offense has just been bad except for the last Baltimore series basically since the ASB

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heavens11 said:

txags92 said:

We are not even a "good" team right now. Our pitching kept us in the division lead despite our lack of offense. We have a +14 run differential, and a -22 home run differential. With our aces now both not pitching the same recently as they were pre-ASB, we are at risk of not even making the playoffs if we can't find a way to start scoring more runs. We don't have the lock down bullpen arms anymore to save us after the starter goes 6. We have too many home games against bad teams left to keep coming out totally flat and not making any effort to hit and run the bases intelligently.

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Amazingly that run differential was at/over +60 just 2 to 3 weeks ago. The offense has just been bad except for the last Baltimore series basically since the ASB



Honestly, the offense has been bad all year at scoring runs. Our batting average and OPS have dropped significantly since the ASB, but so has our pitching. With a pitching staff hold other teams to 1-2 runs routinely, we still had a chance to eke out a lot of wins with a mediocre offense. With a staff starting to give up 5-6 runs per game (or a lot more) routinely since the ASB, our current offense is insufficient to give us a chance to win the game. And I don't think getting back Meyers and Paredes is going to change that if we don't get smarter and more focused at the plate and on the basepaths.

ETA: Pre ASB, our pitching staff had a 3.61 ERA, 1.16 WHIP and .225 avg against them (5th in MLB based on ERA). Post ASB, we are at 4.67 ERA, 1.38 WHIP and .258 average against (24th in MLB based on ERA).

Pre ASB, our hitters were #1 for avg and #9 for OPS, but #15 for runs scored. Post ASB, we are #20 for avg, #26 for OPS, and 27th for runs scored.

Both have been bad since the ASB.
agproducer
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Yankees vs. Nationals. 10-0 NYY. I'm trying not to vomit.

I like how they put OPS on the jumbotron instead of BA.

Other than that, the stadium is kind of disappointing.








txags92
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agproducer said:




Must be nice to have a lineup where you have to get to the 6th position in the order before the OPS drops below .800.
agproducer
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Agree. The bleacher seats are nice. Very roomy.
tjack16
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The main concourse is a dream though. Daikin gets so crammed but Yankee stadium is so open. Especially in fair territory
JDUB08AG
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I was completely underwhelmed when I went last year. I mean its a nice stadium, but there is no historical mystique. I'm no Yankee fan, but their history is incredible and I felt nothing of that history when I was there.
Hornbeck
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JDUB08AG said:

I was completely underwhelmed when I went last year. I mean its a nice stadium, but there is no historical mystique. I'm no Yankee fan, but their history is incredible and I felt nothing of that history when I was there.

The old one was historic, but not a nice stadium, IMHO.
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JDUB08AG said:

I was completely underwhelmed when I went last year. I mean its a nice stadium, but there is no historical mystique. I'm no Yankee fan, but their history is incredible and I felt nothing of that history when I was there.

Old Yankee was the same way - no feeling of history. It felt like someone had refreshed the stadium over and over and over, yet was still outdated.
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Farmer1906 said:

JDUB08AG said:

I was completely underwhelmed when I went last year. I mean its a nice stadium, but there is no historical mystique. I'm no Yankee fan, but their history is incredible and I felt nothing of that history when I was there.

Old Yankee was the same way - no feeling of history. It felt like someone had refreshed the stadium over and over and over, yet was still outdated.

Interesting. Never knew that. When I walked into Wrigley for the first time my jaw dropped.
Ag_07
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We didn't make it to the monument park but the museum in Yankee Stadium is pretty awesome.

We saw the Stros there on Opening Day 2016. IIR there was a severe winter storm and the game was delayed a day. Still the high the next was 30 F.

Even ran into Colin McHugh at a local bagel shop in the village the day before the game. Chatted us up and took pictures.

Good trip
Hornbeck
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Fenway was like that for me.
agproducer
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And Monument Park is closed. Honestly, that's the only reason I'd want to come back. Open concourses are nice, but you really don't feel the history. Getting in was also a cluster. Much easier at Daiken.
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JDUB08AG said:

I was completely underwhelmed when I went last year. I mean its a nice stadium, but there is no historical mystique. I'm no Yankee fan, but their history is incredible and I felt nothing of that history when I was there.

agreed. went a couple years ago and it was very blah. Very underwhelming in all aspects. It has no character or personal qualities to me.
Farmer1906
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JDUB08AG said:

Farmer1906 said:

JDUB08AG said:

I was completely underwhelmed when I went last year. I mean its a nice stadium, but there is no historical mystique. I'm no Yankee fan, but their history is incredible and I felt nothing of that history when I was there.

Old Yankee was the same way - no feeling of history. It felt like someone had refreshed the stadium over and over and over, yet was still outdated.

Interesting. Never knew that. When I walked into Wrigley for the first time my jaw dropped.

That summer, I went to Wrigley, The Jake (Progressive), Camden, Shea, Old Yankee, and Fenway.

Wrigley and Fenway just gave a baseball feeling, nowhere else did. It was magic.

Shea was the biggest dump ever. Like worse than the Dome at the end.

Yankee looked like kept putting lipstick on pig.

Camden was awesome. It kind of felt classic even though it wasn't that old, but old enough that it wasn't new and sterile.

Jacobs Field felt very 90s. Nothing special. Nothing fancy. Not a bad place to catch a game either.
Drunken Overseas Bettor
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JDUB08AG said:

Farmer1906 said:

JDUB08AG said:

I was completely underwhelmed when I went last year. I mean its a nice stadium, but there is no historical mystique. I'm no Yankee fan, but their history is incredible and I felt nothing of that history when I was there.

Old Yankee was the same way - no feeling of history. It felt like someone had refreshed the stadium over and over and over, yet was still outdated.

Interesting. Never knew that. When I walked into Wrigley for the first time my jaw dropped.

Fenway and Wrigley I compared to going to New York City itself for the first time - you've seen it so much on TV that you feel like you know it already, but being there is still just incredible.
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Houston -310 on the money line

the gamblers still believe in Framber
Beau Holder
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Not currently looking like the Padres are going to bail the Astros out again.
Mr.Bond
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Beau Holder said:

Not currently looking like the Padres are going to bail the Astros out again.

Lots of game left
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
EastCoastAgNc
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Beau Holder
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The return of Caesar Saladbar
Mr.Bond
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Framber said Diaz aint catching me today.....
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
txags92
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Mr.Bond said:

Framber said Diaz aint catching me today.....

I had forgotten about that whole uproar. Does make you wonder...whether Framber plans to back up behind the plate this game.
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tjack16 said:

Which of the American League playoff teams would you confidently pick us to beat in a 7 game playoff series?

Yankees
Beau Holder
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No need to back up the plate when everyone is scoring on walks and wild pitches.
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