Why do we have a pitcher batting in the lineup?

Should the last HBP (where he threw the bat) should have been a strike? I get that intent is important and some people bring the bat through the zone when trying to get out of the way of a ball.....but he definitely looked like he was intending and starting a swing when the pitch was thrown, and that swing kept going....

agproducer said:

---

It's like some on this thread haven't watched baseball before.

Things ebb and flow. The team is sometimes good and sometimes sucks. You just want to be good more than you are bad. The pendulum will swing back the other way soon enough.

---

And sometimes, it rains. That's baseball.

It's like some on this thread have never read this thread, lol.

Baseball Is Life said:

---

EastCoastAgNc said:

---

Seattle Mariners OF Victor Robles is suspended 10 games by MLB for his bat throwing incident Sunday during his minor league rehab assignment. He is appealing the decision.

— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) August 19, 2025

---

He was hit five times in that series and I believe three of the HBPs came from the same pitcher. I would be pissed, too.

---

Fine... Be pissed. But throw your helmet out there or just charge the mound like everyone else, no need to hurl the lumber.

EastCoastAgNc said:

---

Seattle Mariners OF Victor Robles is suspended 10 games by MLB for his bat throwing incident Sunday during his minor league rehab assignment. He is appealing the decision.

— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) August 19, 2025

---

They suspending the pitchers who kept drilling him?

Although to be fair, they are MiL pitchers and he was damn near standing on the plate for a lot of that.

Lance McCullers Jr. will start Friday in Baltimore, Joe Espada said.

— Matt Kawahara (@matthewkawahara) August 19, 2025

Well... Chalk that up as a loss

agproducer said:

---

It's like some on this thread haven't watched baseball before.

Things ebb and flow. The team is sometimes good and sometimes sucks. You just want to be good more than you are bad. The pendulum will swing back the other way soon enough.

---

While I agree with your overall sentiment, I can't think of the last time a good team lost games 14-1, 7-0, 12-0, and 10-0 in a week and looked so completely and utterly overmatched.

Watching our offense swing at everything that is thrown is starting to make me feel like I'm watching James Harden play his BS brand of offense. it's my hometown team, but it's getting hard to root for the same miserable idea of offensive strategy night after night.

EastCoastAgNc said:

---

Lance McCullers Jr. will start Friday in Baltimore, Joe Espada said.

— Matt Kawahara (@matthewkawahara) August 19, 2025

Well... Chalk that up as a loss

---

Chas better be playing long toss by the 2nd inning.

With how this season has gone the offense might explode against Skubal today.

Seems like the offense has been reverting back to some of last year's overreliance on hitting homers especially with 2 strikes.

EastCoastAgNc said:

---

Seattle Mariners OF Victor Robles is suspended 10 games by MLB for his bat throwing incident Sunday during his minor league rehab assignment. He is appealing the decision.

— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) August 19, 2025

---

The good news is this likely means the Mariners won't even activate him until after rosters expand.

Drunken Overseas Bettor said:

---

agproducer said:

---

It's like some on this thread haven't watched baseball before.

Things ebb and flow. The team is sometimes good and sometimes sucks. You just want to be good more than you are bad. The pendulum will swing back the other way soon enough.

---

While I agree with your overall sentiment, I can't think of the last time a good team lost games 14-1, 7-0, 12-0, and 10-0 in a week and looked so completely and utterly overmatched.

Watching our offense swing at everything that is thrown is starting to make me feel like I'm watching James Harden play his BS brand of offense. it's my hometown team, but it's getting hard to root for the same miserable idea of offensive strategy night after night.

---

Bingo. These guys (as a team) are making the same mistakes over and over and over. Running the bases like little leaguers, swinging at pitches way outside the strike zone, swinging at the first pitch, regardless of where it is thrown, etc. Over and over. If it were just one guy like Yainer doing it, you could conclude that maybe he just is bad at recognizing pitches. But it is damn near the whole team making the same kinds of mistakes. At some point, we have to consider whether it is possible that they are not being prepared well to hit against the pitchers we are seeing. That our gameplans (particularly against ****ty pitchers) are just not very good. And eventually we have to look at who it is that is responsible for those game plans and hitting approaches and ask if maybe they have just started phoning it in like the hitters appear to be approaching their at bats?

I know the response will be that we don't have the hitters from the 2017, 2019, or 2022 rosters here and these are the same coaches who made those teams shine. But maybe those hitters were just that good, and without them, the coaches' inadequacies are showing through. Maybe hitters get better when they leave and worse when they come here for a reason.

I am ready to find out the answer once and for all. We can't get rid of the hitters, so lets try some new coaches.

Drunken Overseas Bettor said:

---

agproducer said:

---

It's like some on this thread haven't watched baseball before.

Things ebb and flow. The team is sometimes good and sometimes sucks. You just want to be good more than you are bad. The pendulum will swing back the other way soon enough.

---

While I agree with your overall sentiment, I can't think of the last time a good team lost games 14-1, 7-0, 12-0, and 10-0 in a week and looked so completely and utterly overmatched.

Watching our offense swing at everything that is thrown is starting to make me feel like I'm watching James Harden play his BS brand of offense. it's my hometown team, but it's getting hard to root for the same miserable idea of offensive strategy night after night.

---

It's kind of nuts how everyone has started stinking it up all of a sudden. Is Correa hosting late night party's now that he's back.

Mr. Awesome Time said:

---

With how this season has gone the offense might explode against Skubal today.

Seems like the offense has been reverting back to some of last year's overreliance on hitting homers especially with 2 strikes.

---

They are over-reliant on trying to pull everything, including the pitches 6" into the opposite batter's box. When we go oppo we get hits. When we are patient, we increase pitch counts, get better pitches to hit, and get to the BP sooner. Not to mention it gives our pitchers time to recover between innings. So what do we do? Swing at the first pitch, stack multiple single digit pitch innings into every game, try to pull everything, and end up wearing out the opponent's shortstop with ground balls.

If things go as planned (big if) how many rehab games does Yordan need before he's back in the majors? TIA

agproducer said:

---

It's like some on this thread haven't watched baseball before.

Things ebb and flow. The team is sometimes good and sometimes sucks. You just want to be good more than you are bad. The pendulum will swing back the other way soon enough.

---

I've watched plenty of baseball and a team with a 2-4 record and a -28 run differential over a week during a close division race in Mid-August would alarm just about anyone.

The good times of last season's 2-and-out home series against the eventual AL Division Series participants are long gone.

Drunken Overseas Bettor said:

---

EastCoastAgNc said:

---

Lance McCullers Jr. will start Friday in Baltimore, Joe Espada said.

— Matt Kawahara (@matthewkawahara) August 19, 2025

Well... Chalk that up as a loss

---

Chas better be playing long toss by the 2nd inning.

---

He is doing long toss before each bottom inning to be ready

Drunken Overseas Bettor said:

---

agproducer said:

---

It's like some on this thread haven't watched baseball before.

Things ebb and flow. The team is sometimes good and sometimes sucks. You just want to be good more than you are bad. The pendulum will swing back the other way soon enough.

---

While I agree with your overall sentiment, I can't think of the last time a good team lost games 14-1, 7-0, 12-0, and 10-0 in a week and looked so completely and utterly overmatched.

Watching our offense swing at everything that is thrown is starting to make me feel like I'm watching James Harden play his BS brand of offense. it's my hometown team, but it's getting hard to root for the same miserable idea of offensive strategy night after night.

---

I will agree with you there. It's hard to support the current plate approach.

That being said:

This is the first time in more than 20 years -- April 2005 -- the Astros have been shut out three times in a four-game span. They went to the World Series that year.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) August 19, 2025

Unfortunately, those games were 1-0 (STL), 2-0 (PIT), 2-0 (PIT).

Charge the mound a la Robin Ventura.


This was a lot less of a problem when pitchers batted. Just saying.

agproducer said:

---

Drunken Overseas Bettor said:

---

agproducer said:

---

It's like some on this thread haven't watched baseball before.

Things ebb and flow. The team is sometimes good and sometimes sucks. You just want to be good more than you are bad. The pendulum will swing back the other way soon enough.

---

While I agree with your overall sentiment, I can't think of the last time a good team lost games 14-1, 7-0, 12-0, and 10-0 in a week and looked so completely and utterly overmatched.

Watching our offense swing at everything that is thrown is starting to make me feel like I'm watching James Harden play his BS brand of offense. it's my hometown team, but it's getting hard to root for the same miserable idea of offensive strategy night after night.

---

I will agree with you there. It's hard to support the current plate approach.

That being said:

This is the first time in more than 20 years -- April 2005 -- the Astros have been shut out three times in a four-game span. They went to the World Series that year.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) August 19, 2025

Unfortunately, those games were 1-0 (STL), 2-0 (PIT), 2-0 (PIT).

---

They went to the WS. Technically…. But they didn't show up.

Hornbeck said:

---

agproducer said:

---

Drunken Overseas Bettor said:

---

agproducer said:

---

It's like some on this thread haven't watched baseball before.

Things ebb and flow. The team is sometimes good and sometimes sucks. You just want to be good more than you are bad. The pendulum will swing back the other way soon enough.

---

While I agree with your overall sentiment, I can't think of the last time a good team lost games 14-1, 7-0, 12-0, and 10-0 in a week and looked so completely and utterly overmatched.

Watching our offense swing at everything that is thrown is starting to make me feel like I'm watching James Harden play his BS brand of offense. it's my hometown team, but it's getting hard to root for the same miserable idea of offensive strategy night after night.

---

I will agree with you there. It's hard to support the current plate approach.

That being said:

This is the first time in more than 20 years -- April 2005 -- the Astros have been shut out three times in a four-game span. They went to the World Series that year.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) August 19, 2025

Unfortunately, those games were 1-0 (STL), 2-0 (PIT), 2-0 (PIT).

---

They went to the WS. Technically…. But they didn't show up.

---

The 05 WS gets a bad rap because they lost in 4, but that really doesn't match how the games were. They were all close, with the last 3 decided in extra or 8th or later innings. Not reaching for a moral victory, but it wasn't that they totally no showed.

Those guys were spent after Pujols turned Brad Lidge into his red headed stepson.

I went to game 3. That team was playing a well rested White Sox team after they left their soul in the NLCS.

Air Yordan is back in flight tonight at Whataburger Field...

Get tickets: https://t.co/e9gJW5QWn9 pic.twitter.com/5XmXYKN19T

— Corpus Christi Hooks (@cchooks) August 19, 2025

CFTXAG10 said:

---

Air Yordan is back in flight tonight at Whataburger Field...

Get tickets: https://t.co/e9gJW5QWn9 pic.twitter.com/5XmXYKN19T

— Corpus Christi Hooks (@cchooks) August 19, 2025

---

He needs to not slap hands so hard, that may be what is causing the hand injury

You know Dusty was part of the first high 5, so yet another reason to say screw him.

agproducer said:

---

Drunken Overseas Bettor said:

---

agproducer said:

---

It's like some on this thread haven't watched baseball before.

Things ebb and flow. The team is sometimes good and sometimes sucks. You just want to be good more than you are bad. The pendulum will swing back the other way soon enough.

---

While I agree with your overall sentiment, I can't think of the last time a good team lost games 14-1, 7-0, 12-0, and 10-0 in a week and looked so completely and utterly overmatched.

Watching our offense swing at everything that is thrown is starting to make me feel like I'm watching James Harden play his BS brand of offense. it's my hometown team, but it's getting hard to root for the same miserable idea of offensive strategy night after night.

---

I will agree with you there. It's hard to support the current plate approach.

That being said:

This is the first time in more than 20 years -- April 2005 -- the Astros have been shut out three times in a four-game span. They went to the World Series that year.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) August 19, 2025

Unfortunately, those games were 1-0 (STL), 2-0 (PIT), 2-0 (PIT).

---

Unfortunately, there were also some absolutely putrid offenses over the following 10 years that did not accomplish this "amazing" lowlight.

Think about that. All those awful teams in the early 2010s and none of them ever did this.

Rain delay?

You think the Astros have issues when it comes to communicating injuries?

Peep the Yankees. https://t.co/jE1De85zao

— Will Kunkel (@WillKunkelV) August 19, 2025

The start of tonight's game is delayed due to weather.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) August 19, 2025

What a Tuesday line up we have!

📍Whataburger Field
📺 https://t.co/GlEtccv8P3 |@Bally__Sports | KDF-TV
📷@1360kktx | https://t.co/1CSvxAcY4j pic.twitter.com/X3UorbCpfD

— Corpus Christi Hooks (@cchooks) August 19, 2025

EastCoastAgNc said:

---

The start of tonight's game is delayed due to weather.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) August 19, 2025

---

On the one hand, get a roof poverty franchise.

On the other, every extra minute before having to watch this team right now is a blessing.

CFTXAG10 said:

---

What a Tuesday line up we have!

📍Whataburger Field
📺 https://t.co/GlEtccv8P3 |@Bally__Sports | KDF-TV
📷@1360kktx | https://t.co/1CSvxAcY4j pic.twitter.com/X3UorbCpfD

— Corpus Christi Hooks (@cchooks) August 19, 2025

---

So, while Yordan's been out he's been working on being a switch hitter?

jtkk said:

---

CFTXAG10 said:

---

What a Tuesday line up we have!

📍Whataburger Field
📺 https://t.co/GlEtccv8P3 |@Bally__Sports | KDF-TV
📷@1360kktx | https://t.co/1CSvxAcY4j pic.twitter.com/X3UorbCpfD

— Corpus Christi Hooks (@cchooks) August 19, 2025

---

So, while Yordan's been out he's been working on being a switch hitter?

---

One way to relieve the pressure on the same hand every night I guess. A practice as old as long showers for teenage boys.

EastCoastAgNc said:

---

The start of tonight's game is delayed due to weather.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) August 19, 2025

---

First pitch now estimated for 7:15 p.m. ET/6:15 CT, per the Tigers.

— Matt Kawahara (@matthewkawahara) August 19, 2025

Y'all think we'll score a run tonight?