***** Official Houston Astros 2025 Season Thread *****

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CFTXAG10
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Baltimore didn't stop after they left here Sunday. Took back to back wins in Boston and they are off today.
TRM
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Honestly, I think it's a carryover from yesterday's fall. I think he had some whiplash with the turf then and now the 2nd blow to the head today.
Marvin
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.


Framber with the timely "hold my beer" response.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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TRM said:

Honestly, I think it's a carryover from yesterday's fall. I think he had some whiplash with the turf then and now the 2nd blow to the head today.

Im a donkey, that's what I get. I did not realize he played today
wehnerhigh20
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Well this time Carlos is going to have to be meaner I guess
txags92
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

I think Carlos has been gone for too long to realize that "the brand of baseball that we're accustomed to playing" is pretty much what we have seen for the last couple of weeks.
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txags92 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

I think Carlos has been gone for too long to realize that "the brand of baseball that we're accustomed to playing" is pretty much what we have seen for the last couple of weeks.

There is no way you or ayone else actually thinks this.
Beau Holder
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To be fair, they did choke an ALCS to a far inferior team by going 0-4 at home and follow that up by starting like 12-24 and back-dooring into the playoffs in an awful division just to get wiped out quickly (again at home) because of an offense flawed in all the same ways this one still is. Just to find themselves hoping to back-door in through a terrible division once again.

Just speculating that may have been what was meant.
Quo Vadis?
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Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

I think Carlos has been gone for too long to realize that "the brand of baseball that we're accustomed to playing" is pretty much what we have seen for the last couple of weeks.

There is no way you or ayone else actually thinks this.


When did you go from popcorn emoji guy to blue diamond?
txags92
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Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

I think Carlos has been gone for too long to realize that "the brand of baseball that we're accustomed to playing" is pretty much what we have seen for the last couple of weeks.

There is no way you or ayone else actually thinks this.

The pitching was holding the noses of our hitters above water for the first half of the season. Now that the pitching has broken down, the offense is in no way capable of picking up the slack. The hitters we had that were here and capable of playing the way Carlos remembers are all gone or injured except Altuve and he is chasing HRs to the detriment of the rest of his hitting right now. We just don't have any healthy hitters besides Pena on the team right now that seem to be capable of putting together a coherent situational at bat, especially against crappy pitchers. Everybody else is in swing at anything and try to pull everything mode, and the result is a bunch of negative launch angle ground balls to the pull side of the infield. Until the approaches at the plate change, this is who we are.
txags92
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Beau Holder said:

To be fair, they did choke an ALCS to a far inferior team by going 0-4 at home and follow that up by starting like 12-24 and back-dooring into the playoffs in an awful division just to get wiped out quickly (again at home) because of an offense flawed in all the same ways this one still is. Just to find themselves hoping to back-door in through a terrible division once again.

Just speculating that may have been what was meant.

This. We have all the same hitting flaws on this team right now that we did in 2023 and 2024, minus Tucker, Bregman, Yordan, and Meyers. Diaz and Walker showed signs of trying to snap out of it for a few weeks, but have gone right back to looking just as lost as they did for the first half of the season.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

Larry Dierker always said he didn't like team meetings

because what do you do if you lose again after the team meeting?

which is what the Astros just did today

now what?
superaggie73
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txags92 said:

Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

I think Carlos has been gone for too long to realize that "the brand of baseball that we're accustomed to playing" is pretty much what we have seen for the last couple of weeks.

There is no way you or ayone else actually thinks this.

The pitching was holding the noses of our hitters above water for the first half of the season. Now that the pitching has broken down, the offense is in no way capable of picking up the slack. The hitters we had that were here and capable of playing the way Carlos remembers are all gone or injured except Altuve and he is chasing HRs to the detriment of the rest of his hitting right now. We just don't have any healthy hitters besides Pena on the team right now that seem to be capable of putting together a coherent situational at bat, especially against crappy pitchers. Everybody else is in swing at anything and try to pull everything mode, and the result is a bunch of negative launch angle ground balls to the pull side of the infield. Until the approaches at the plate change, this is who we are.


Almost like a hitting coach or…a step higher…a freaking head coach could tell them to change their damn approach. But they're all too busy playing Mr. Nice Guy and Best Friend instead of hurting their feelings.
superaggie73
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W said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

Larry Dierker always said he didn't like team meetings

because what do you do if you lose again after the team meeting?

which is what the Astros just did today

now what?


You bring in a new voice
BCEDAg
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Marvin said:

agdaddy04 said:

If the Astros don't deserve to be in first, who does?


Espada's baseball cliche game was on point during the postgame:

"Just gotta fight through these tough stretches."

"Baseball is a marathon."

"We're close."

And my personal favorites:

"Scoring a couple of runs was a positive."

"Last time I checked, we were still in first place."

You tell 'em, Joe!

Hey Joe why don't you go out there and argue those ridiculous strike three calls on Diaz and Melton? Show some damn fire and support your players and get your ass thrown out?
After the Dodger series I was in the camp supporting Joe to be manager of the year. Now I truly believe that he's lost the respect of the players. Hope that's not what's happening but I sure don't see the fire from the players anymore since July 6th.
txags92
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superaggie73 said:

txags92 said:

Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

I think Carlos has been gone for too long to realize that "the brand of baseball that we're accustomed to playing" is pretty much what we have seen for the last couple of weeks.

There is no way you or ayone else actually thinks this.

The pitching was holding the noses of our hitters above water for the first half of the season. Now that the pitching has broken down, the offense is in no way capable of picking up the slack. The hitters we had that were here and capable of playing the way Carlos remembers are all gone or injured except Altuve and he is chasing HRs to the detriment of the rest of his hitting right now. We just don't have any healthy hitters besides Pena on the team right now that seem to be capable of putting together a coherent situational at bat, especially against crappy pitchers. Everybody else is in swing at anything and try to pull everything mode, and the result is a bunch of negative launch angle ground balls to the pull side of the infield. Until the approaches at the plate change, this is who we are.


Almost like a hitting coach or…a step higher…a freaking head coach could tell them to change their damn approach. But they're all too busy playing Mr. Nice Guy and Best Friend instead of hurting their feelings.

I honestly don't know what the coaches are or aren't doing behind closed doors. Maybe they are yelling at them. Maybe they are dinging guys in some way for being an idiot at the plate or on the base paths. Maybe it really is just a bunch of individual players who just don't care to try to change what they are doing despite hero level efforts from the coaches and whoever are considered to be the leaders in the clubhouse. I just know that I have lost any hope that this particular group of hitters is likely to turn things around and become something different in the last 35 games than what they have shown us they are in the first 127.

P.S. I hope desperately that they make me eat these words and win every series from here on out. I just don't think they will based on what they have shown us so far this season.
BCEDAg
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W said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

Larry Dierker always said he didn't like team meetings

because what do you do if you lose again after the team meeting?

which is what the Astros just did today

now what?

Well they did score some runs. Lol
scd88
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Seriously, if Soyattle can't win the division this year, they should reevaluate their program. We are a bad team. It's been rough. Can it turn around? Maybe. Will it? Not likely.

Damn Astros are gonna make me rely on A&M football for sports euphoria. Yikes.
Bulldog73
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Interesting perspective. He's been monumentally more successful in all facets of athletics than I'll ever be, but I don't love the fear driven perspective of "what if it doesn't work?" Then you haven't lost much more than you already were. But if it does work, then great.
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Mr. Awesome Time said:

Framber is losing money and needs to man up. He wouldn't be where he is today without the team that developed him into a top starting pitcher.

theoretically he should be because of his outings in the past month

but all it takes is one GM...

and Framber will still get his $30 MM per year for 6 or 7 years
superaggie73
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txags92 said:

superaggie73 said:

txags92 said:

Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

I think Carlos has been gone for too long to realize that "the brand of baseball that we're accustomed to playing" is pretty much what we have seen for the last couple of weeks.

There is no way you or ayone else actually thinks this.

The pitching was holding the noses of our hitters above water for the first half of the season. Now that the pitching has broken down, the offense is in no way capable of picking up the slack. The hitters we had that were here and capable of playing the way Carlos remembers are all gone or injured except Altuve and he is chasing HRs to the detriment of the rest of his hitting right now. We just don't have any healthy hitters besides Pena on the team right now that seem to be capable of putting together a coherent situational at bat, especially against crappy pitchers. Everybody else is in swing at anything and try to pull everything mode, and the result is a bunch of negative launch angle ground balls to the pull side of the infield. Until the approaches at the plate change, this is who we are.


Almost like a hitting coach or…a step higher…a freaking head coach could tell them to change their damn approach. But they're all too busy playing Mr. Nice Guy and Best Friend instead of hurting their feelings.

I honestly don't know what the coaches are or aren't doing behind closed doors. Maybe they are yelling at them. Maybe they are dinging guys in some way for being an idiot at the plate or on the base paths. Maybe it really is just a bunch of individual players who just don't care to try to change what they are doing despite hero level efforts from the coaches and whoever are considered to be the leaders in the clubhouse. I just know that I have lost any hope that this particular group of hitters is likely to turn things around and become something different in the last 35 games than what they have shown us they are in the first 127.

P.S. I hope desperately that they make me eat these words and win every series from here on out. I just don't think they will based on what they have shown us so far this season.


I honestly don't know what the coaches are doing/saying either. But, for whatever reason, either the coaches aren't coaching/helping them or the players aren't listening. That's the only 2 options. So either way it's a coaching issue. Either they don't know what they're doing or they are being ignored.

I'm with you with a small caveat. I've lost all hope that these hitters will turn it around….with this staff here. Give me an offensive staff with a clue and our hitters will get better.
EastCoastAgNc
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Pretty accurate summation
W
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going back to the discussion before the game...

here are Biggio's pull percentages from 2003 to 2006...his age 37 to age 40 seasons

2003 --> 37%
2004 --> 36%
2005 --> 36%
2006 --> 39%

that's what a player has to do -- especially at Minute Maid / Daikin Park -- as he becomes older

if the player wants to remain a major contributor
Mathguy64
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W said:

going back to the discussion before the game...

here are Biggio's pull percentages from 2003 to 2006...his age 37 to age 40 seasons

2003 --> 37%
2004 --> 36%
2005 --> 36%
2006 --> 39%

that's what a player has to do -- especially at Minute Maid / Daikin Park -- as he becomes older

if the player wants to remain a major contributor


Someone should have a heart to heart with Walker. Draw him a map or something.

If he doesn't adapt to this park, well nothing will change. Because right now he is trying to hit over the great desert.
Jaydoug
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Ayahuasca. The team should go on a retreat like Von Miller and Aaron Rogers and find their inner eyes.

tjack16
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14-23 since the Dodgers series

It's not just a "bad stretch" or "August swoon"
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Hopefully this gives Dana some ideas
Triple S
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txags92 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

I think Carlos has been gone for too long to realize that "the brand of baseball that we're accustomed to playing" is pretty much what we have seen for the last couple of weeks.


what? We are a first place team coming off 8 years in a row of playoffs,,,,,, That's kinda poopy to say.
Triple S
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W said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

Larry Dierker always said he didn't like team meetings

because what do you do if you lose again after the team meeting?

which is what the Astros just did today

now what?


so people aren't supposed to lead and set examples……. Shows you why Dierker and Art Howe didn't win anything here,
txags92
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Triple S said:

txags92 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Oh great...we've reached the team meeting stage.

I think Carlos has been gone for too long to realize that "the brand of baseball that we're accustomed to playing" is pretty much what we have seen for the last couple of weeks.


what? We are a first place team coming off 8 years in a row of playoffs,,,,,, That's kinda poopy to say.

So you think the 2023-2025 Astros are playing the same brand of baseball as the 2017-2022 Astros? We made the playoffs in 2023 and 2024 because the Mariners suck and our performance in those playoff series tells the real story of how we play baseball now.
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I feel like the Astros are playing like the weather.

Rainy and nice for June July
Hot and dry August

~egon
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I got so down about the Astros today I agreed to go see the Aggies play football next month.
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houag78
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If I'm not mistaken we were one game away from the WS in '23. Wasn't like that was a bad playoff run.
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Look on the bright side guys we may be able to afford Tucker this offseason

He's rocking Maldy numbers since July 1st. Hitting below the Mendoza Line with 1 HR.
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