linkdude said:

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+/- RD this small just means we won enough close games to cover for our blowouts.

Feels like our comeback wins dried up at the ASB. Only one I can think of lately is Javier's first start vs. Boston.

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Yep, it's overall just settled into being a bad, boring baseball team. Crazy that the period when it was fun was when half the roster was Space Cowboys. Crazy and a real bummer to look back on.

W said:

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yes, Paredes covered for a lot of the reckless first-pitch swinging by the other hitters

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you mean….. reckless first pitch swings by ALL other hitters? I mean damn…….


can the hitting coach not intervene?

Maybe George stole the Astros fountain of youth and contributed to our downfall. What a statline for him since the end of June.

#BlueJays George Springer is batting .385/.463/.682 with 52 runs scored, 69 hits, 16 home runs, 39 RBI, and 9 stolen bases in 47 games since June 21st this season.

— Ryan M. Spaeder (@theaceofspaeder) September 3, 2025

There’s speculation that Astros pitcher Framber Valdez purposely crossed up his catcher Cesar Salazar and hit him with this pitch after Salazar told him to step off before allowing a grand slam pic.twitter.com/ds3c9MzQV6

— Jomboy Media (@JomboyMedia) September 3, 2025

It's pretty obvious it was intentional. Framber is actively harming his free agency, and it's getting to the point where he needs to be disciplined. Obviously whatever they're trying to do behind the scenes isn't working. They won't do it, but it's getting close to public shaming time.

Just a really bad look for him. Cutting your nose off to spite your face type ****

He definetly got asked about both incidents.

Blamed the pitch com on the cross up but said he'd talk to Cesar to get the whole story.

Said he didn't notice the step off gesture on the GS but some of the coaches mentioned it. Thinks it may have the pitch clock and Cesar telling him to step off. Will go look at the video and see what it shows.

About what expected. I wanna hear more from Joe tomorrow and from some of the players.

Yikes that it not a good look

linkdude said:

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Just a really bad look for him. Cutting your nose off to spite your face type ****

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If it were anybody else, they would be DFA'd immediately. They need to take off the kids gloves with him.

Ken Giles got send to American Siberia for punching himself in the face and telling AJ to GFY coming off the mound. Brett Oberholtzer (think that was his name) had no control in one game and intentionally threw behind Yankee hitters to get ejected and got DFA'd immediately. Throwing 95 directly at your own teammate should get you a one way trip to unemployment.

Wow, I cant imagine id ever accuse the pitcher of this, but its hard to watch that and see it another way. Not sad to see this headcase go

A team that had actual fire and ambitions would light this dude up in the clubhouse.

linkdude said:

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Maybe George stole the Astros fountain of youth and contributed to our downfall. What a statline for him since the end of June.

#BlueJays George Springer is batting .385/.463/.682 with 52 runs scored, 69 hits, 16 home runs, 39 RBI, and 9 stolen bases in 47 games since June 21st this season.

— Ryan M. Spaeder (@theaceofspaeder) September 3, 2025

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Older player suddenly mashing the ball

I'm saying no more as top 3 all time favorite Stro

...we scored only 1 run in a game in which Dubon got a hit AND drew a walk

redline248 said:

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...we scored only 1 run in a game in which Dubon got a hit AND drew a walk

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Top 4 in order were 2 for 15

I said it when I saw it live.

This is not good and unacceptable. It's not gonna get swept under the rug either.

It's so incredibly obvious there's no way to spin it.

I would suspend Framber indefinitely. Until he can earn the trust of his teammates back he won't be playing.

Tbh its impossible to prove it's intentional, but DFA-ing him right now if there was any way to "prove" it would be the only acceptable move IMHO. It might even be the fire this team needs lit right now

Edit: the look on Salazar's face tells you what he thought about it

AggieJ2002 said:

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Tbh its impossible to prove it's intentional, but DFA-ing him right now if there was any way to "prove" it would be the only acceptable move IMHO. It might even be the fire this team needs lit right now

Edit: the look on Salazar's face tells you what he thought about it

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Cesar looked like he was contemplating throwing the ball at the back of Frambers head

This is quite an awkward interview with this interpreter.

Framber saying he wanted to throw a sinker and thought Salazar was on the same page as him and he threw what he thought the call was. WTF??

Framber's pitched like shtt in his last six starts. You have five other healthy starters who have pitched better.

Maybe time for an involuntary stint on the DL.

Beau Holder said:

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A team that had actual fire and ambitions would light this dude up in the clubhouse.

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Best we can do is Carlos having a word with him.

I hear Maven needs a barista since Lance is back at his side gig.

pic.twitter.com/IqJrPYUvAe

— H 🇺🇸 1776 We The People (@H4H1776) September 3, 2025

Hopefully the veterans on the team all get together and make sure he's not on the team going forward. Can't stand for that.

EastCoastAgNc said:

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There’s speculation that Astros pitcher Framber Valdez purposely crossed up his catcher Cesar Salazar and hit him with this pitch after Salazar told him to step off before allowing a grand slam pic.twitter.com/ds3c9MzQV6

— Jomboy Media (@JomboyMedia) September 3, 2025

It's pretty obvious it was intentional. Framber is actively harming his free agency, and it's getting to the point where he needs to be disciplined. Obviously whatever they're trying to do behind the scenes isn't working. They won't do it, but it's getting close to public shaming time.

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Time for a DL stint for "fatigue" or some shtt

In my personal opinion, it was absolutely not a “cross up.”

Out of control. https://t.co/m9peHbtApE

— Will Kunkel (@WillKunkelV) September 3, 2025

Trammell is healthy again right? Have we just not seen him because it would interfere with the conscious decision to play Dubon every single day until the heat death of the universe?

Cesar Salazar on the grand slam pitch

“I pressed the wrong button. Yea, that’s what it was.”

“I wanted him to step off because we were going through some pitches.”

Q: Was the cross up intentional?

“No. We have a really good relationship.”

“There were a good bit of Yankees…

— Will Kunkel (@WillKunkelV) September 3, 2025

He's a bigger man than Framber will ever be

BadAggie said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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There’s speculation that Astros pitcher Framber Valdez purposely crossed up his catcher Cesar Salazar and hit him with this pitch after Salazar told him to step off before allowing a grand slam pic.twitter.com/ds3c9MzQV6

— Jomboy Media (@JomboyMedia) September 3, 2025

It's pretty obvious it was intentional. Framber is actively harming his free agency, and it's getting to the point where he needs to be disciplined. Obviously whatever they're trying to do behind the scenes isn't working. They won't do it, but it's getting close to public shaming time.

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Time for a DL stint for "fatigue" or some shtt

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Scheduled for a rectal craniotomy

Hell no

That's an easy out.

They need to announce that Framber is facing team discipline for his actions. Call him out.

Hell keep the punishment behind closed doors but he needs to be called out for this busch league crap.

Hmmmmm

Both Framber Valdez and César Salazar were pulled into the manager's office after tonight's game. Afterward, Valdez said through an interpreter that he apologized to Salazar, but said the cross-up was not intentional. More to come.

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) September 3, 2025

Chandler has to be thanking his stars for this story during this boring ass stretch of ball.

Joe needs to figure it out.

While, yes, he did a lot of great work managing this team through all the injuries, Crane just ponied up a fair amount at the deadline and rightly could wonder if a change in leadership is needed.

He did fire a GM after winning a WS after all.

Also if this is a case of a player acting like a cancer without punishment not at all a good situation to not deal with.

post-game presser...

Espada agrees with Pena's decision to bunt

Is there a CBA allowed punishment like suspension without pay for conduct detrimental to the team? You have a full rotation otherwise, team is floundering, maybe this is a move that could clear the air?

Framber -
“He called a curveball, but I already made in my mind I was throwing my sinker, so I threw my sinker”
Chandler - Why didn’t you step off?
“I didn’t hear it because of the noise. By the time it was too late since I started my motion”

— R (@runout01) September 3, 2025

That first part right there is just dumb. I'll throw what I want, and f*** the catcher.

If it was really a mistake you don't just turn your back on him with no reaction. I thought it was on purpose live and think so even more seeing the replay.

starting to think the #1 reason Carlos was acquired...

was to try to fix the clubhouse

EastCoastAgNc said:

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Framber -
“He called a curveball, but I already made in my mind I was throwing my sinker, so I threw my sinker”
Chandler - Why didn’t you step off?
“I didn’t hear it because of the noise. By the time it was too late since I started my motion”

— R (@runout01) September 3, 2025

That first part right there is just dumb. I'll throw what I want, and f*** the catcher.

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Framber didn't throw a sinker, he threw a hanging meatball on a T.