thegoodolag15 said:

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I know that's what you are asking for, but we all know you really need a game where we leave 15 on base and win 2-1.

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I guess a 2-0 win with 10 left on will do instead.

duck79 said:

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Burger just got moved from AA to AAA, do the Rangers wait till September to bring him up? I think Tellez is playing well enough that the Rangers keep him with Burger. You can't really drop Haggerty or Osuna for him so it's either Zeke or Rowdy but Zeke can play multiple positions.

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We may need Burger to replace Tellez after the hand issues he was having last night. I hope not but his last two ABs give me pause. The ABs were great but the trainer visits were not.

Both AA and AAA are on the road this week. More flights from Albuquerque or Little Rock?

Abi Ortiz was just promoted from AA to AAA and went 4 for 5 with 2 HRs and 8 RBI in his debut last night. Not bad for 23 years old. He hit .143 for the month of June at Frisco, but .343 with 9 HRs and 26 RBI since.

Disco Stu said:

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Abi Ortiz was just promoted from AA to AAA and went 4 for 5 with 2 HRs and 8 RBI in his debut last night. Not bad for 23 years old. He hit .143 for the month of June at Frisco, but .343 with 9 HRs and 26 RBI since.

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Between Pederson, Tellez, Burger, and Ortiz, those guys aren't skipping any meals. That's a legit OL for most football teams.

He's been a fun guy to follow. Pretty much a nobody when he first got here, has struggled at the beginning of each step, but has adjusted and then gotten better at each step as well. Good for him. Probably a AAAA player at his peak but still fun to follow and root for.

So great to see Waterboy and dallasag had an awesome time. Even cooler that agswin2011 just gave them that experience! I know a lot of us gripe and moan on the board but we just love to see our club play good baseball. A great group we have in here.

Gig em!

DallasAg94 - Thanks for the seats to today's game.

DannyDuberstein said:

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Get on your feet and cheer that man, you fat slobs

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In fairness, there was every indication, IMO, that he was going back out.

I was certainly standing and cheering on, but usually when the P enters the dugout, AFAIK, Bochy will shake his hand when he is done. If not done, Maddux will knuckle bump him. Which is what happened. Had we not scored, I think he goes back out.

The crowd was certainly tentative. We were in a different section than we normally would be. We have a good crowd in our normal seats.

In these seats, I would stand and yell, but struggled to get anyone else to follow. The fact the people in front of us were likely player's family, they were trying to not draw too much attention.

I'd expect the crowd to be a bit more vocal, today.

Enjoy. You can also thank AgsWin2011.

Sorry it doesn't come with Lexus Club.

The people that will be to your left and in front of you, are good people. They don't sell their seats, so it likely will be friends or family, if not them.

Bochy did shake Eovaldi's hand when he got back in the dugout after the 8th, fwiw.

I just think once a guy gets thru 8 with that level of dominance, it doesn't matter if he's coming out or not. You acknowledge it

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duck79 said:

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Burger just got moved from AA to AAA, do the Rangers wait till September to bring him up? I think Tellez is playing well enough that the Rangers keep him with Burger. You can't really drop Haggerty or Osuna for him so it's either Zeke or Rowdy but Zeke can play multiple positions.

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We may need Burger to replace Tellez after the hand issues he was having last night. I hope not but his last two ABs give me pause. The ABs were great but the trainer visits were not.

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We need some right handed bats to handle these lefties coming up. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Burger were here to start the Phillies series.

One thing I would like to see much less of is the switch hitting Heim being considered a viable left handed OR right handed bat. Dude just doesn't have it anymore.

Joc Pederson has a higher OBP (.269) this season than Jonah Heim (.265). https://t.co/Q0MtRz8U9r

— Jeff Wilson (@JeffWilsonTXR) August 6, 2025

DannyDuberstein said:

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I just think once a guy gets thru 8 with that level of dominance, it doesn't matter if he's coming out or not. You acknowledge it

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Agreed. Probably should acknowledge from the 7th inning onward. It was such a dominant performance.

Bochy did shake his hand but I don't know if fans in the stadium would have seen/known that. He was at (I think) 99 pitches. I didn't think he would be back.

Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with you. I think Rangers fans need to get a little more life going.

Here was the scene I saw. I was standing just to the right of that pic, so I had every expectation he was coming back out.

The fans in that pic are just lifeless.

Yep. One guy in that picture is giving Eovaldi his due. I see what you mean about Maddux giving the fist bump. If you see that, you expect Eovaldi next inning.

Globe Life is dead most of the time. It did get loud last night in the 9th, as far as I could tell from TV.

I think the offense has put a damper on the fan involvement unfortunately. The first months of the season set the tone for the fans to expect the other shoe to drop every night with this team. Now, if they get back on a roll I think we will see the involvement pick up.

Me and DallasAg stood up for Evo as he was heading back to the dugout. ELITE performance from Evo. Such a treat to see that live and up close. Everyone should have been fired up after that dominate performance.

AgBQ-00 said:

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I think the offense has put a damper on the fan involvement unfortunately. The first months of the season set the tone for the fans to expect the other shoe to drop every night with this team. Now, if they get back on a roll I think we will see the involvement pick up.

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Rowdy was getting some props.

I think there are a number of issues.

I think Rangers fans came of age with the "Big Bang" variety of baseball. Big HRs, the game always in play because big bats could get 10Rs at any time.

This is a different version of baseball. I've mentioned it many times. I love the 2-0, 1-0, 2-1 type games. I love a great pitching duel. . The big strikeout. That's the baseball we have and I love it. You see it on here, people want the big home run. People like the scoring and the Rangers haven't been clutch enough recently to get the crowd jazzed.

I have other issues, but it would be tl dr. I was a STH for the Stars for 10 years, so I have plenty of HSOs on fan participation and game production.

DallasAg 94 said:

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AgBQ-00 said:

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I think the offense has put a damper on the fan involvement unfortunately. The first months of the season set the tone for the fans to expect the other shoe to drop every night with this team. Now, if they get back on a roll I think we will see the involvement pick up.

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Rowdy was getting some props.

I think there are a number of issues.

I think Rangers fans came of age with the "Big Bang" variety of baseball. Big HRs, the game always in play because big bats could get 10Rs at any time.

This is a different version of baseball. I've mentioned it many times. I love the 2-0, 1-0, 2-1 type games. I love a great pitching duel. . The big strikeout. That's the baseball we have and I love it. You see it on here, people want the big home run. People like the scoring and the Rangers haven't been clutch enough recently to get the crowd jazzed.

I have other issues, but it would be tl dr. I was a STH for the Stars for 10 years, so I have plenty of HSOs on fan participation and game production.

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My issues is they're 22 out of 30 teams out of runs scored this year and that's improved quite a bit. Still last in the division. These bats should be better than that.

2-0 game is fine, 10 runs a game is fun but this team could go a long way with the pitching they have if they can score runs.

That's what most people see. We never had pitching and we always had bats. Now we've got pitching and we don't have the bats, well at least they're not preforming.

It's not the lack of "Big Bang" it's the lack of runs period.

La Fours said:

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If his next start goes like we think it will, and he pitches 5 innings, he will be a qualifier for the various statistical awards. He's at 111 IP, and the rangers have played 115 games.

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I'm dumb and my math was wrong. By his next start, there will be at least 5 more games played. Putting the total games played at 120. Haven't checked the schedule to confirm. And if he goes 7 innings, then he would be 2 shy of qualifying.

So he likely needs 2 more starts where he goes 7 to 8 innings to become a qualifier.

I think there's a ton of folks that just aren't baseball savvy anymore. You go to a stars game and those fans know hockey for the most part. Football is football. However, since the World Series win there's a bunch of new, casual fans that just don't know the ins and outs. Maybe I'm just an old man now though

Fun couple of games. Good for the guys to dig in and find a way to win. Might not mean anything in the long run but it's good to see them keep fighting their way through a frustrating season so far.

sburg2007 said:

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I think there's a ton of folks that just aren't baseball savvy anymore. You go to a stars game and those fans know hockey for the most part. Football is football. However, since the World Series win there's a bunch of new, casual fans that just don't know the ins and outs. Maybe I'm just an old man now though

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IMO, some of the hard core baseball fans have been priced out, or have t sit further away from the action due to cost. The seats up close are bought up by the corporations, and a lot of times aren't occupied by those that are "baseball savvy", as you mention above.

Easier math.

He is at 111. Rangers at 115.

47Gs remain / 5 SPs, means 9GS each

He needs 162 IP- 111 = 51 IP to qualify. 51IP/9GS means 5.2 ( 5 and 2/3rds) IP/GS.

Next 5 GSs: Az (#14, 7), Toronto (#1, 6), Cle (#30, 26), LAA (#26, 17), Az (#14, 7)
(BA, Rs)

Now Az has dismantled, so...

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Naylor: .292
Suarez: 36 HRs

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Easier math.

He is at 111. Rangers at 115.

47Gs remain / 5 SPs, means 9GS each

He needs 162 IP- 111 = 51 IP to qualify. 51IP/9GS means 5.2 ( 5 and 2/3rds) IP/GS.

Next 5 GSs: Az (#14, 7), Toronto (#1, 6), Cle (#30, 26), LAA (#26, 17), Az (#14, 7)
(BA, Rs)

Now Az has dismantled, so...

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Naylor: .292
Suarez: 36 HRs

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100% agree with this. We make 3-5 games/ year and it's when tickets are given to me. The drive, $30 to park, the inevitable couple of hot dogs and tickets. It adds up quickly.

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sburg2007 said:

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I think there's a ton of folks that just aren't baseball savvy anymore. You go to a stars game and those fans know hockey for the most part. Football is football. However, since the World Series win there's a bunch of new, casual fans that just don't know the ins and outs. Maybe I'm just an old man now though

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IMO, some of the hard core baseball fans have been priced out, or have t sit further away from the action due to cost. The seats up close are bought up by the corporations, and a lot of times aren't occupied by those that are "baseball savvy", as you mention above.

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This is true. The lady with the big t*ts behind the Stars bench does not know puck.

The difference is those bat-heavy, pitching-absent teams just had a bunch of arms that you hoped might have a career year.

Pederson has an OPS 240 points worse than his career average.
Semien 90 points worse.
Garcia 70 points worse.
Jung 40 points worse.
Seager 40 points worse.
Heim 50 points worse.


This team has the capability of suddenly becoming elite the last few months of the season.

KT 90 said:

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sburg2007 said:

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I think there's a ton of folks that just aren't baseball savvy anymore. You go to a stars game and those fans know hockey for the most part. Football is football. However, since the World Series win there's a bunch of new, casual fans that just don't know the ins and outs. Maybe I'm just an old man now though

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IMO, some of the hard core baseball fans have been priced out, or have t sit further away from the action due to cost. The seats up close are bought up by the corporations, and a lot of times aren't occupied by those that are "baseball savvy", as you mention above.

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I've been to one game this year. We live about 3 hours from the stadium and we normally make it to three or four games. I got laid off in February so that has certainly impacted our attendance. I started a new job in June but we haven't made it back up for a game. We are planning at least one game in September and possibly one this month.

Everything has gotten more expensive. Not just baseball games. But baseball games take a backseat to groceries, electricity, insurance, high school girls' wants.

I watch probably 80% of the games on Victory+ though. I did splurge on that.

Yep.

Hicks pissed off loyalists like my BIL who was a long time STH. Hicks restructured the pricing to attract more corporate buyers. It reduced fan criticism from individual STHs and assured long-term buyers at higher prices.

Under Hicks, Jim Lites made the production more like Hockey. Blaring music and constant hype doesn't work for baseball. Baseball is too nuanced.

The DMN did a demographic study on STHs for the various major sports about 20 years ago.

IIRC
Cowboys - pretty broad. Middle-class
Mavericks. geographic center was close to downtown Dallas, younger crowd, lower middle-class. Diverse with more Hispanic and AAs.
Stars: upper middle class to high level income, centered in Plano/Carrollton, mostly affluent white men who were single. If you look where the Stars Centers are... that's their base.
Rangers: trended towards the mid-cities and closer to FtWorth. Middle class, middle income families with kids.

At teh RBiA, the stats I saw were they had like 20-25K STHs and then relied on 7-10K "walkups." People who buy the week/day of the game.

My Stars season tickets were $25/game for 42-43 games (pre-season). We had 3 in Sec 312... about $3500. They go $47ea now on an 11 game plan. If you were to get a 20G package right now for the Rangers in the Infield Mezzanine, it is $1700, or $85/seat.

$85x4 (family)=> $340+$40 parking.

Rangers get more Corporations or people who are expensing their tickets to their company. The people around us that have season tickets at the Rangers are people who own their own business and use them for customers/clients/family.

Sick of Mr pop-up in the 3 hole.

Watching the game with the sound turned down, the only thing I know for sure is that Nathan Eovaldi is attending today's game.

Ag Since 83 said:

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Watching the game with the sound turned down, the only thing I know for sure is that Nathan Eovaldi is attending today's game.

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Trying to get some CyYoung talk.

Zeke swinging a hot bat lately

Small ball. Haggerty is a ballplayer