Except is it profit in that game versus ticket price or profit in the whole season for seat and donation costs?bobinator said:
I mean the policy does very plainly say "for profit." That's not particularly ambiguous if you're selling them for extremely cheap for mid-week non-con games or whatever.
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Ag13 said:BQ_90 said:Ag13 said:BQ_90 said:Quote:
So for the small games, the strict re-sale policy is a barrier to selling.
Please explain this? What is strict about it? I guess I don't see how its a barrier to re-sale any tickets.
I guess i've never heard of anyone having their seats taken away for resale of their tickets. Esp if you sale for less which you'd probable do for OOC MBB games. Esp the holiday hoops ones where you can buy GA for $5
Because people don't want to risk their season tickets being taken away (potentially across sports) because they sold all their non conference basketball tickets for $3 each. The unknown enforcement makes the worries higher.
That just an excuse to not sale. There is no risk. Again if it was was they why would A&M have a deal with seatgeek in the first place
Yes it's an excuse but it's one they absolutely has an impact on the secondary market supply. Nobody has any idea what the risk actually is. The ambiguity and having to acknowledge the resell policy at every renewal and transaction makes some people hesitant to list at all.
All of this is especially true in baseball by the way. But when 2-3 basketball games/year are able to sell for nearly the entire price of the season tickets it's a bit of a risk (at least mentally) to list your tickets to those games if you can't attend. And then there are threads asking why there are empty seats.
This certainly means prices are too low for season tickets and a raise is warranted for a perennial tournament program, but going too much too quickly is also going to have a negative impact on secondary supply and butts in seats.
in baseball the are far more people that don't resale because they don't want anyone else in their seats or they don't want to risk rowdy fans in their seats and then their seat neighbor complains. Esp in the club or downstairs.
again are you still standing by this so called risk of losing all your season tickets if you sell your OOC MBB ticket for $3
bobinator said:
I mean the policy does very plainly say "for profit." That's not particularly ambiguous if you're selling them for extremely cheap for mid-week non-con games or whatever.
Yes and if a season ticket holder can only attend 50% of the games, and a game they can't attend happens to be one that is selling for $150/upper deck ticket because it's Saturday vs a top 10 team - it's hard to claim you're not making a profit on the whole season if you choose to sell that high priced game and the other games you can't attend. If the question is why do people not list tickets for big games they can't attend - this is a reason.
BQ_90 said:Ag13 said:BQ_90 said:Ag13 said:BQ_90 said:Quote:
So for the small games, the strict re-sale policy is a barrier to selling.
Please explain this? What is strict about it? I guess I don't see how its a barrier to re-sale any tickets.
I guess i've never heard of anyone having their seats taken away for resale of their tickets. Esp if you sale for less which you'd probable do for OOC MBB games. Esp the holiday hoops ones where you can buy GA for $5
Because people don't want to risk their season tickets being taken away (potentially across sports) because they sold all their non conference basketball tickets for $3 each. The unknown enforcement makes the worries higher.
That just an excuse to not sale. There is no risk. Again if it was was they why would A&M have a deal with seatgeek in the first place
Yes it's an excuse but it's one they absolutely has an impact on the secondary market supply. Nobody has any idea what the risk actually is. The ambiguity and having to acknowledge the resell policy at every renewal and transaction makes some people hesitant to list at all.
All of this is especially true in baseball by the way. But when 2-3 basketball games/year are able to sell for nearly the entire price of the season tickets it's a bit of a risk (at least mentally) to list your tickets to those games if you can't attend. And then there are threads asking why there are empty seats.
This certainly means prices are too low for season tickets and a raise is warranted for a perennial tournament program, but going too much too quickly is also going to have a negative impact on secondary supply and butts in seats.
in baseball the are far more people that don't resale because they don't want anyone else in their seats or they don't want to risk rowdy fans in their seats and then their seat neighbor complains. Esp in the club or downstairs.
again are you still standing by this so called risk of losing all your season tickets if you sell your OOC MBB ticket for $3
No. I don't think anyone complains about secondary supply for a November game against A&M commerce. Auburn and Tennessee last year though are complained about.
There's a million dollar idea. Some kind of system where people can get verified as "good fans" when they buy on the secondary market which could grant them early access or discounted tickets or something.
Maybe they can't afford season tickets or they're at a point in their life where, I dunno, just off the top of my head they have three toddlers, and their schedule is kind of unpredictable, but where people can list their tickets and trust that "good Ags" are buying them.
TexAgs could probably build this into the ticket exchange board but for a lot of people the process of posting, replying, transferring, etc on the message board is more than they're willing to do.
Maybe they can't afford season tickets or they're at a point in their life where, I dunno, just off the top of my head they have three toddlers, and their schedule is kind of unpredictable, but where people can list their tickets and trust that "good Ags" are buying them.
TexAgs could probably build this into the ticket exchange board but for a lot of people the process of posting, replying, transferring, etc on the message board is more than they're willing to do.
I still don't think that's particularly ambiguous unless you're just looking for an excuse not to list them. I doubt that the athletic department is going to argue that you're "purchasing tickets with the primary intent of resale for profit" if you only sell them for one of the big games but attend all of the rest.
bobinator said:
I still don't think that's particularly ambiguous unless you're just looking for an excuse not to list them. I doubt that the athletic department is going to argue that you're "purchasing tickets with the primary intent of resale for profit" if you only sell them for one of the big games but attend all of the rest.
I have no idea how the athletic department views it nor does anyone else which is why I called it ambiguous. There have been just two reports I've ever seen on TexAgs of people being barred from renewing. You say you doubt they'd care but I don't blame people for not being wanting to risk it.
I do know that every time I renew tickets they make you acknowledge the policy though. And then with a few more clicks on the 12th man foundation website you can list every single ticket you own on seatgeek at a dynamic price that seat geek attempts to maximize for you. Conflicting for sure.
the deal i wish they'd bring back is the random ticket package. You signed up, got X number of games. You'd submit your request week before, then day before you got your seat assignment.
I know you didn't get UK tickets, but man the seats we got in that package where always good ones.
I know you didn't get UK tickets, but man the seats we got in that package where always good ones.
Yeah that was nice. I had those also.
Team resale policies are about controlling the market and maximizing revenue per seat.
They don't want the secondary flooded with cheap tickets, so they partner with companies for resale to enable price floors.
They protect price integrity on the low end, but will raise prices on hot games to capture profits on the high end. It also serves as a buffer - sell their own tickets on the secondary so it appears as though the dirty scalpers are charging $500 a ticket, not the team.
Texans, Rangers, Yankees, Longhorns, Aggies. They all do it. It's been common practice amongst teams for years now. A lot of articles about it online.
They are looking to extract as much money out of you just like the scalpers are. Except where before you paid through the nose for the hot matchup but got the OOC directional matchup for a few bucks, now you'll still be paying through the nose for the hot matchup, but that OOC directional matchup will now be closer to box office face value of $40-$50.
They don't want the secondary flooded with cheap tickets, so they partner with companies for resale to enable price floors.
They protect price integrity on the low end, but will raise prices on hot games to capture profits on the high end. It also serves as a buffer - sell their own tickets on the secondary so it appears as though the dirty scalpers are charging $500 a ticket, not the team.
Texans, Rangers, Yankees, Longhorns, Aggies. They all do it. It's been common practice amongst teams for years now. A lot of articles about it online.
They are looking to extract as much money out of you just like the scalpers are. Except where before you paid through the nose for the hot matchup but got the OOC directional matchup for a few bucks, now you'll still be paying through the nose for the hot matchup, but that OOC directional matchup will now be closer to box office face value of $40-$50.
Expert Analysis said:halfastros81 said:
103. Row S. West baseline I believe. Would have paid more for something more towards mid court but they just aren't available at this time. Didn't want upper level.
When I talked with TMF they indicated there were almost no seats in the lower bowl available for season ticket purchase... They would have more if they would release the blocks they hold...
Mine will become available in Sec 122. I won't be renewing this year.
I finally did renew my seats in section 104. Hope I will have some reasonable options to upgrade.
Called "dynamic pricing."
Peace for Ukraine!
Obviously you don't have to answer if you don't want to but I am curious why your'e not renewing?
How is 104? As it stands now that's where I'll be as well. I retract that , I'll be in 103 as it stands now. 104 would be an upgrade for me.
halfastros81 said:
How is 104? As it stands now that's where I'll be as well. I retract that , I'll be in 103 as it stands now. 104 would be an upgrade for me.
I have liked them a lot. Great seats near midcourt.
Those near me are a little sedate though. Could use some more boisterous fans.
If I can move a bit lower or closer to midcourt I'm will. But usually when I pick there are not great options. Maybe this year will be different.
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