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Charles Barkley on the demise of the NBA
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Last: 8 days ago by AggieEP
He's like a better version of Tyler Davis.
It will be interesting to see if the pendulum comes back closer to the middle now because of the NIL.
Method Man said:
He's like a better version of Tyler Davis.
I think Tyler has a Wes Unseld game. Barkley has a much more mobile game and is 5" shorter
You had to be there.
GrayMatter said:
It will be interesting to see if the pendulum comes back closer to the middle now because of the NIL.
I think Barkley would say that NIL will have a negative effect. He wants kids to pursue higher education, not sports. NIL means more kids will make some money playing sports, which means that more kids will see opportunity and raise their hands when he asks the question "what do you want to be when you grow up?".
Method Man said:
He's like a better version of Tyler Davis.
I love that this is a place where old jokes never die
The NBA sucks cause everyone just shoots 3s... 1 year college kids going pro isn't the problem.
Aston04 said:
The NBA sucks cause everyone just shoots 3s... 1 year college kids going pro isn't the problem.
Most those players he mentioned played when no 3 point line existed. Their game had to be more versatile whereas now less technique is taught other than to shoot from long distance. Once big centers started dominated the league they implemented rules to reduce their influence. They need to do the same for three point shooters.
My son coached basketball at camps last summer. Kids from 10 to 15 years old. He said the NBA has ruined the sport.
Nobody cares about learning the fundamentals. They only care about doing 3 things.
Jacking up 3's.
Falling down like they've been shot and crying to the refs any time anyone touches them.
Taunting their opponents.
Just like their NBA heroes on tv...
Nobody cares about learning the fundamentals. They only care about doing 3 things.
Jacking up 3's.
Falling down like they've been shot and crying to the refs any time anyone touches them.
Taunting their opponents.
Just like their NBA heroes on tv...
I agree and disagree with Barkley here.
Agree: Kids should want to go to college and strive for dreams like he mentioned. It's a real problem that whole segments of our population (not just black kids) dream about jobs that they statistically have no chance at getting. Also colleges should be focused on developing their athletes as scholars as well because the number going pro is super small. The NCAA serving as a pseudo minore league for the NBA and NFL is one of my huge pet peeves. Make those kids be real students. If they don't want to be students, go play for the Ignite or somewhere else overseas until you're old enough for the NBA and NFL.
Disagree: If you are one of the very few that's got a skill someone wants to pay you for... get paid. Ready or not for the league, Cooper Flagg would be a fool to turn down 30 million guaranteed. Even if he busts out he's got generational wealth if he hires a good money manager. Now if we're talking about the dum dums that come out early and go undrafted, then yeah sure, obviously stay in school. But you can always go back to college if you're Cooper Flagg and finish that degree of the NBA doesn't work out.
As a total aside, I wish Barkley had more influence with the black community. He's one of the few prominent figures who really has an independent mind and speaks from the heart (not bought and paid for) about what he thinks is best for black folks.
Agree: Kids should want to go to college and strive for dreams like he mentioned. It's a real problem that whole segments of our population (not just black kids) dream about jobs that they statistically have no chance at getting. Also colleges should be focused on developing their athletes as scholars as well because the number going pro is super small. The NCAA serving as a pseudo minore league for the NBA and NFL is one of my huge pet peeves. Make those kids be real students. If they don't want to be students, go play for the Ignite or somewhere else overseas until you're old enough for the NBA and NFL.
Disagree: If you are one of the very few that's got a skill someone wants to pay you for... get paid. Ready or not for the league, Cooper Flagg would be a fool to turn down 30 million guaranteed. Even if he busts out he's got generational wealth if he hires a good money manager. Now if we're talking about the dum dums that come out early and go undrafted, then yeah sure, obviously stay in school. But you can always go back to college if you're Cooper Flagg and finish that degree of the NBA doesn't work out.
As a total aside, I wish Barkley had more influence with the black community. He's one of the few prominent figures who really has an independent mind and speaks from the heart (not bought and paid for) about what he thinks is best for black folks.
AggieEP said:
As a total aside, I wish Barkley had more influence with the black community. He's one of the few prominent figures who really has an independent mind and speaks from the heart (not bought and paid for) about what he thinks is best for black folks.
He probably shouldn't have gone with, "I'm not a role model" a long time ago. Do as I say not as I do only goes so far.
GrayMatter said:AggieEP said:
As a total aside, I wish Barkley had more influence with the black community. He's one of the few prominent figures who really has an independent mind and speaks from the heart (not bought and paid for) about what he thinks is best for black folks.
He probably shouldn't have gone with, "I'm not a role model" a long time ago. Do as I say not as I do only goes so far.
That isn't what he meant by that. He's point was to athletes shouldn't be role models, that should be parents are the primary role models for kids.
I guess i never heard of anything chuck did that made him a bad parent or not a role model for his kids.
That comment, which i think really started or was a nike commercial was meant more along the lines of he gets paid to play ball, not be a role model.
I think he's been pretty consistent throughout his life on that message
Well, it came along after he had thrown a guy through a window at a bar, spit on a little girl and kicked a baseline cameraman.
But, no, the black community almost certainly didn't consider that commercial in not making Barkley a community thought leader.
AggieEP said:
I agree and disagree with Barkley here.
Agree: Kids should want to go to college and strive for dreams like he mentioned. It's a real problem that whole segments of our population (not just black kids) dream about jobs that they statistically have no chance at getting. Also colleges should be focused on developing their athletes as scholars as well because the number going pro is super small. The NCAA serving as a pseudo minore league for the NBA and NFL is one of my huge pet peeves. Make those kids be real students. If they don't want to be students, go play for the Ignite or somewhere else overseas until you're old enough for the NBA and NFL.
Disagree: If you are one of the very few that's got a skill someone wants to pay you for... get paid. Ready or not for the league, Cooper Flagg would be a fool to turn down 30 million guaranteed. Even if he busts out he's got generational wealth if he hires a good money manager. Now if we're talking about the dum dums that come out early and go undrafted, then yeah sure, obviously stay in school. But you can always go back to college if you're Cooper Flagg and finish that degree of the NBA doesn't work out.
As a total aside, I wish Barkley had more influence with the black community. He's one of the few prominent figures who really has an independent mind and speaks from the heart (not bought and paid for) about what he thinks is best for black folks.
If we want athletes to be "scholars," then A&M shouldn't have completely different, bare minimum admission criteria for them.
Instead, I think it would be great if places like a&m made more connections with technical programs as an option for part of student's education. Leaving a&m with real world technical skills to make 6 figures makes more sense than so many majoring in ag, with no interest in ag.
Agree
I love watching Aggie sports, but when I see inner city Houston kids majoring in ag leadership and development or general studies I get a little sick to my stomach. A&M is doing those kids no favors by sending them down a path like that.
Stanford and Notre Dame do a much better job at being faithful to the educational mission of the institution. Not sure why Aggie sports programs couldn't strive to at least be average to mediocre in terms of balancing academics and athletics.
I love watching Aggie sports, but when I see inner city Houston kids majoring in ag leadership and development or general studies I get a little sick to my stomach. A&M is doing those kids no favors by sending them down a path like that.
Stanford and Notre Dame do a much better job at being faithful to the educational mission of the institution. Not sure why Aggie sports programs couldn't strive to at least be average to mediocre in terms of balancing academics and athletics.
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