I'm always baffled by the amount of people of a certain advocacy who don't understand differences between plot, conflict and theme.
Just...wow.
Just...wow.
RIP Charlie Kirk
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nai06 said:BartInLA said:
But I also won't pretend that Charlie Kirk was a decent and kind person. He's made his career by saying awful and inflammatory things about others he disagrees with.
Please post some examples of this behavior.
So far as I know Charlie Kirk was always diplomatic and respectful in his interactions with those he disagreed with. This guy was willing to have dialogue with those he disagreed with, which I always thought is supposed to be the American way. And he was murdered for it.
Edit to say I don't know how the quote stuff works obviously, the above was said by nai06.
Second edit to say and he was willing to engage in respectful debate in a public forum, not hidden behind a keyboard and a username.
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BigPete3281 said:
I'm always baffled by the amount of people of a certain advocacy who don't understand differences between plot, conflict and theme.
Just...wow.
Please explain.
nai06 said:scd88 said:
It's always the gun but never the one who pulls the trigger, eh? That's certainly a theory.
Its not just the gun though that's certainly ba big part of gun violence.
Just off the top of my head:
Better access to mental health resources would also help.
Reducing or removing the cost of those resources would help
Taking domestic violence far more seriously
there's more access to mental health resources than ever before, leftists keep killing people just like they've been killing people for 100 years. Its who they are. These are rational people who are convinced they need to kill to further their revolution, not people experiencing psychotic breaks. Its the logical conclusion for a disordered world view with nothing tethering it to morality.
713nervy said:GAC06 said:
Leftists are bitter, vicious people
Massive generalizations like this are dangerous and divisive.
leftists engravings on murder weapons twice in a month. I guess he was just lucky his generalization was correct, its definitely not a logical conclusion drawn from mountains of evidence.
Leftists are 50% of the country. This applies to every single one?
Okay
Okay
713nervy said:
Leftists are 50% of the country. This applies to every single one?
Okay
Yes. Most ignorantly and unknowingly.
713nervy said:
Leftists are 50% of the country. This applies to every single one?
Okay
I think it's more like, 1/3 republican, 1/3 democrat, 1/3 other or don't care.
nai06 said:BartInLA said:
I'm no fan of the radical left but I hope that they cry out as loud as anyone else. These are completely against a civil society and the putrid act done by a coward was very un-American. ALL should unite for at least a few days. This should not be political. We should all stand united.
I don't want anyone dying via gun violence.
I don't want anyone dying via any kind of violence.
Maybe Kirk's murder will motivate conservatives to work with liberals towards ending gun violence in this country but I have my doubts.
I'm done compromising with the left on anything. Nothing but crap ideas that run contrary to the principles upon which this nation was founded. I'll keep my guns, thank you. There's too many deranged lunatics on your side of the aisle for me to trust anyone but me to protect my family and make sure they have both the tools and training to protect themselves. And I'll be damned if I surrender any more of my rights to avoid offending the sensibilities of the left.
But I also won't pretend that Charlie Kirk was a decent and kind person. He's made his career by saying awful and inflammatory things about others he disagrees with. I don't blame him for his murder in any way and at the same time will not lift him up or praise him as a martyr, role model, or someone to admire.
He spoke the truth.
A 16 year old shot two classmates at school yesterday in Colorado before killing himself. That has barely registered on the news and on Texags. I wish we could all work together to make shootings like that and Kirk's murder stop. But there doesn't seem to be an appetite for that in a lot of conservative circles. Kirk himself even said that it was worth it to have some gun deaths a year in order to have the 2nd amendment.
He was right.
So I'll stand arm in arm with you in condemning the murder of Charlie Kirk because no one should be murdered or be a victim of gun violence. Now what are we going to do about it? How are we going to stop it moving forward?
I'm not standing arm in arm with anyone who votes Democrat. If you want to stop gun violence, you start by putting the insane back in asylums and you start punishing DAs who let thugs with 14 prior convictions run free to murder some helpless girl with a knife merely because she was white. She's dead because of how leftist policies treat crime and criminals.
just a quick FYI to those who have replied to me or asked for responses, I am incredibly busy with work today. I will respond but its going to be later this afternoon. I am not trying to duck you or do a drive by posting. I want to give an appropriate amount of my time to the topic given how important it is.
so basically you're going to spend the next few hours searching the web to try and cherry pick some random quotes out of context that try and paint Charlie as a bad guy. got it.
good luck
good luck
Don't make this about something it isn't.
This is about Charlie.
There's multiple threads on the politics board for fighting.
This isn't that.
My oldest child is mourning the loss of someone he looked up to as a role model. Charlie gave him the confidence to be himself and stand against injustice. I'll forever try to make sure I keep that flame in him.
A wife lost her godly husband, children lost their father, parents lost a child and many young people lost someone who inspired them.
It's not fair. It's not okay. This is super crappy.
This is about Charlie.
There's multiple threads on the politics board for fighting.
This isn't that.
My oldest child is mourning the loss of someone he looked up to as a role model. Charlie gave him the confidence to be himself and stand against injustice. I'll forever try to make sure I keep that flame in him.
A wife lost her godly husband, children lost their father, parents lost a child and many young people lost someone who inspired them.
It's not fair. It's not okay. This is super crappy.
King of the Dairy Queen said:713nervy said:
Leftists are 50% of the country. This applies to every single one?
Okay
Yes. Most ignorantly and unknowingly.
AustinCountyAg said:
so basically you're going to spend the next few hours searching the web to try and cherry pick some random quotes out of context that try and paint Charlie as a bad guy. got it.
good luck
You can't handle when respectful disagreement occurs - this is why we shouldn't have this thread here. Go bash people whom you disagree with over there.
713nervy said:King of the Dairy Queen said:713nervy said:
Leftists are 50% of the country. This applies to every single one?
Okay
Yes. Most ignorantly and unknowingly.
my brother in Christ, you are the posterchild. You hate blindly, but cant articulate why.
King of the Dairy Queen said:713nervy said:King of the Dairy Queen said:713nervy said:
Leftists are 50% of the country. This applies to every single one?
Okay
Yes. Most ignorantly and unknowingly.
my brother in Christ, you are the posterchild. You hate blindly, but cant articulate why.
Tell me who I hate, exactly?
713nervy said:AustinCountyAg said:
so basically you're going to spend the next few hours searching the web to try and cherry pick some random quotes out of context that try and paint Charlie as a bad guy. got it.
good luck
You can't handle when respectful disagreement occurs - this is why we shouldn't have this thread here. Go bash people whom you disagree with over there.
Yes, you have very respectfully defended political assassination (so long as no gun is used) and implied a 31 year old father of two young children had it coming because you heard somewhere he said mean things. What those mean things are, you have no idea.
I think you're confused with another poster…?
AustinCountyAg said:
so basically you're going to spend the next few hours searching the web to try and cherry pick some random quotes out of context that try and paint Charlie as a bad guy. got it.
good luck
Sorry I have a job and can't spend all day arguing with people on Texags?
nai06 said:AustinCountyAg said:
so basically you're going to spend the next few hours searching the web to try and cherry pick some random quotes out of context that try and paint Charlie as a bad guy. got it.
good luck
Sorry I have a job and can't spend all day arguing with people on Texags?
or defend a single idea you put forward. Just dropped in to let everyone know charlie kind of had it coming and we should give up our guns as your comrads murder us. You seem like a great dude, proud you're an ag.
Do you realize that you're sassing two separate posters?
Any first comment from anyone on this topic other than immediate condemnation of the assassination says a hell of a lot about that person.
Social media is a cancer. Many need to think before posting on this topic.
Social media is a cancer. Many need to think before posting on this topic.
I accept that you have this opinion. I don't agree with it, but I respect you and can respect your opinion.
I caution making assumptions that just because something isn't verbalized on a message forum / this thread that it isn't the shared sentiment.
I caution making assumptions that just because something isn't verbalized on a message forum / this thread that it isn't the shared sentiment.
I respect you and your opinion as well. That's a fair point
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In this recent Rutgers study, over half of those surveyed who identified as left of center said that murdering Donald Trump (56%) or Elon Musk (50.2%) would be at least somewhat justified.
Not voting our way out of this.
Not voting our way out of this.
THE_CHOSEN_ONE said:713nervy said:
Leftists are 50% of the country. This applies to every single one?
Okay
I think it's more like, 1/3 republican, 1/3 democrat, 1/3 other or don't care.
I would say it's more like 20%, 20% and 60%
Finally made a TexAgs account because this crap. Reddit is a complete s-hole full of deranged leftists openly celebrating the murder of an unarmed man, for sharing opinions in a public forum. And they're justifying it. This country is screwed.
Phantom18 said:
Finally made a TexAgs account because this crap. Reddit is a complete s-hole full deranged leftists openly celebrating the murder an unarmed man, for sharing opinions in a public forum. And they're justifying it. This country is screwed.
Redundant
Glad you're here.
Reddit is literal trash.
Reddit is literal trash.
"Kirk himself even said that it was worth it to have some gun deaths a year in order to have the 2nd amendment."
I think the analogy is "it is worth it to drive faster than 5 miles per hour on the freeway even if there will be some deaths." I think this was badly taken out of context.
When seconds count the police are only minutes away. That said, about 65% of death from guns are suicide. There are immense responsibilities if you own a gun. They aren't good for everybody and maybe most shouldn't have them. I have theoretically many but have been shooting since age 8 and was a crackshot with a rifle and was issued a firearm while working security in a summer college job. Dad was a Dallas police reserve. I'm a sheepdog that will gladly protect the sheep in society (most) from the wolves. If I hear an active shooter I will strategically run to the gunshots but I am very practiced and mentally stable. (never happened so I might ****e my pants instead).
My point is I think the quote was taken out of context almost as though Charlie was being nonchalant about these gun deaths. He wasn't. Some gun deaths are absolutely NEEDED to protect the lives of the innocent. Notice that police carry firearms.
I think the analogy is "it is worth it to drive faster than 5 miles per hour on the freeway even if there will be some deaths." I think this was badly taken out of context.
When seconds count the police are only minutes away. That said, about 65% of death from guns are suicide. There are immense responsibilities if you own a gun. They aren't good for everybody and maybe most shouldn't have them. I have theoretically many but have been shooting since age 8 and was a crackshot with a rifle and was issued a firearm while working security in a summer college job. Dad was a Dallas police reserve. I'm a sheepdog that will gladly protect the sheep in society (most) from the wolves. If I hear an active shooter I will strategically run to the gunshots but I am very practiced and mentally stable. (never happened so I might ****e my pants instead).
My point is I think the quote was taken out of context almost as though Charlie was being nonchalant about these gun deaths. He wasn't. Some gun deaths are absolutely NEEDED to protect the lives of the innocent. Notice that police carry firearms.
It is futile to argue with the people on this thread who are goading some of you into stepping over the line so Staff bans you.
Tyrannosaurus Ross said:nai06 said:BartInLA said:
But I also won't pretend that Charlie Kirk was a decent and kind person. He's made his career by saying awful and inflammatory things about others he disagrees with.
Please post some examples of this behavior.
So far as I know Charlie Kirk was always diplomatic and respectful in his interactions with those he disagreed with. This guy was willing to have dialogue with those he disagreed with, which I always thought is supposed to be the American way. And he was murdered for it.
Edit to say I don't know how the quote stuff works obviously, the above was said by nai06.
Second edit to say and he was willing to engage in respectful debate in a public forum, not hidden behind a keyboard and a username.
Here are some quotes from Charlie Kirk. I don't think they sound like the words of a kind and decent person but you might disagree.
- Black women do not have the processing power to be taken seriously.
- We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.
- MLK was awful. He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.
- If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, "Boy I hope he's qualified".
- We need armed militias to prevent the diminishing and decreasing of white demographics.
- Women should not work but instead serve their husbands and raise children.
- If girls do want to attend college, their end goal should not be a degree, but rather a husband.
- Birth control has created very angry and bitter young ladies.
- birth control like really screws up female brains, by the way.
- (in reference to Transgender people)I blame the decline of American men. This never should've been -- someone should've just took care of it the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s or 60s.
- I can't stand the word "Empathy". I think empathy is a made-up new age term and it does a lot of damage.
nai06 said:Tyrannosaurus Ross said:nai06 said:BartInLA said:
But I also won't pretend that Charlie Kirk was a decent and kind person. He's made his career by saying awful and inflammatory things about others he disagrees with.
Please post some examples of this behavior.
So far as I know Charlie Kirk was always diplomatic and respectful in his interactions with those he disagreed with. This guy was willing to have dialogue with those he disagreed with, which I always thought is supposed to be the American way. And he was murdered for it.
Edit to say I don't know how the quote stuff works obviously, the above was said by nai06.
Second edit to say and he was willing to engage in respectful debate in a public forum, not hidden behind a keyboard and a username.
Here are some quotes from Charlie Kirk. I don't think they sound like the words of a kind and decent person but you might disagree.
- Black women do not have the processing power to be taken seriously.
- We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.
- MLK was awful. He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.
- If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, "Boy I hope he's qualified".
- We need armed militias to prevent the diminishing and decreasing of white demographics.
- Women should not work but instead serve their husbands and raise children.
- If girls do want to attend college, their end goal should not be a degree, but rather a husband.
- Birth control has created very angry and bitter young ladies.
- birth control like really screws up female brains, by the way.
- (in reference to Transgender people)I blame the decline of American men. This never should've been -- someone should've just took care of it the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s or 60s.
- I can't stand the word "Empathy". I think empathy is a made-up new age term and it does a lot of damage.
Now post the rest of the conversation for context instead of only the left approved snippets.
trueaggie2782 said:nai06 said:Tyrannosaurus Ross said:nai06 said:BartInLA said:
But I also won't pretend that Charlie Kirk was a decent and kind person. He's made his career by saying awful and inflammatory things about others he disagrees with.
Please post some examples of this behavior.
So far as I know Charlie Kirk was always diplomatic and respectful in his interactions with those he disagreed with. This guy was willing to have dialogue with those he disagreed with, which I always thought is supposed to be the American way. And he was murdered for it.
Edit to say I don't know how the quote stuff works obviously, the above was said by nai06.
Second edit to say and he was willing to engage in respectful debate in a public forum, not hidden behind a keyboard and a username.
Here are some quotes from Charlie Kirk. I don't think they sound like the words of a kind and decent person but you might disagree.
- Black women do not have the processing power to be taken seriously.
- We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.
- MLK was awful. He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.
- If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, "Boy I hope he's qualified".
- We need armed militias to prevent the diminishing and decreasing of white demographics.
- Women should not work but instead serve their husbands and raise children.
- If girls do want to attend college, their end goal should not be a degree, but rather a husband.
- Birth control has created very angry and bitter young ladies.
- birth control like really screws up female brains, by the way.
- (in reference to Transgender people)I blame the decline of American men. This never should've been -- someone should've just took care of it the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s or 60s.
- I can't stand the word "Empathy". I think empathy is a made-up new age term and it does a lot of damage.
Now post the rest of the conversation for context instead of only the left approved snippets.
You do it.
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