I believe it is quite possible that someone in the US military wants our adversaries to believe that the Tic Tac is ours, regardless of the facts. This is a deeply nuanced situation.
From a strategic deception standpoint, it would make sense. Projecting ownership of such an… pic.twitter.com/Ac0JbiVWY7
— Tom Thompson🛸 (ＣＯＲＴＥＸ ＺＥＲＯ) (@Cortex_Zero) July 7, 2025
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I believe it is quite possible that someone in the US military wants our adversaries to believe that the Tic Tac is ours, regardless of the facts. This is a deeply nuanced situation.
From a strategic deception standpoint, it would make sense. Projecting ownership of such an advanced capability could act as a deterrent, a psychological weapon designed to keep others guessing and second-guessing what we're capable of.
It's not just about whether the Tic Tac is ours or notit's about the layered intentions behind the messaging, the internal disinformation, and the external signaling. These kinds of moves aren't new in the world of defense intelligence. In fact, they echo Cold War-era tactics where ambiguity and misdirection often carried more power than disclosure.
But the danger here is that wethe public, lawmakers, and even parts of the militarymight be caught in that same fog. Strategic ambiguity can be useful on the world stage, but if it spills into policy, oversight, or truth-seeking efforts, it becomes a liability.
We may be witnessing a narrative that was never meant for us.
This thread would be better IMO if the nonsense was not included.
Someone claiming that the tic tac is Lockheed Martin tech? That's good info, whether it's true or not. That's what we're here for. But it sucks when it gets lost between tons of posts of the most absurd speculation about stuff that that is nothing but mumbo jumbo.
I don't think it's mumbo jumbo at all. We already tried this in the politics forum and people blasted every post as BS, hence 'entertainment'.
I'm a firm believer that there are things that if the public knew fully, would completely upend our society and turn into anarchy and chaos. Keep an open mind!
You acknowledge that but somehow still insist they're all wrong and that the person (apologies for singling out one) who admits to seeing aliens through a religious fundamentalist lens and who says among other things that Adam and Eve literally came to earth in 4100BC and that Bigfoot is an alien is the one to take seriously.
Fairies, bigfoot, ect. - all real, all subjective to our cultural context, all should be tested. The true Spirit is Logos Incarnate and we need Sacraments and liturgy. It is centering...
This is religious now. A new religion is emerging: the worshippers are detailed in Encounters and American Cosmic by Pasulka. This includes AI religion (yes really): another portal, like a spirit board of old...
Angels / satans (messenger / accuser) are more job descriptions and less categories of being. Other creations, including embodied spirits such as humans, can exist, as can "trickster entities," "planetary spirits"…,.
Elohim and elohims, some faithful and some fallen. Consciousness and dimensions.
Realms. Talks on the hill.
- Redstone.
I mean, that sampling is not mumbo jumbo??? And it's ALL like that.
No one in the mainstream dismissing or even mocking this topic with terms like little green men or tin foil hats does any damage to it at all, it's the very people in it that do all the damage. If I browse any random board or comment section on it it's like walking through an asylum. If there's tangible proof then great, bring it on, people will accept it. But no one is going to win over the rational world claiming you can summon aliens telepathically and that they're really angels and demons and this is all about states of consciousness and telepathy and remote viewing and enlightenment.
People should be free to believe whatever they want, there's no harm in that on a small scale, and I'm sure Redstone is a kind and decent person, but the idea that this is the kind of stuff he's confident is about to be disclosed to the overwhelming shock of the mainstream is just bizarre. "Delusional" doesn't even suffice. All it does is push more people away.
I get it. It's a very uncomfortable topic on a scale that makes people cringe and writhe in disbelief on a very deep and personal level. I was 100% in that camp 3 years ago.
I have changed my mind completely in the last 3 years. I have no idea what triggered it in me, but I have had events and experiences happen to me that have continued to lead me to places where I thought I was going mad. It's taken me an incredible amount of time to even be somewhat comfortable pondering it, but I think I'm at the point where I'm starting to coalesce around an understanding similar to Redstone.
Ultimately my Christian faith has been strengthened greatly.
Take a look at this video with Jacques Valle. He's the Godfather of this topic and understands fully what we are dealing with. It all leads back to a non-materialistic but rather spiritual and esoteric view of what is REALLY going on. He suggests a number of books and I also suggest reading his journals. Seek and you will find.
Thank you for this. This comports with what I have been saying, that no matter what the truth actually is, the people in power have good reasons NOT to disclose it.
Valle, inspiration for a character in Close Encounters, is an important part of American Cosmic and Encounters.
It's noteworthy that he's a serious researcher, who maintains a world class database, and a mystic, not a Christian.
The reason this matters is that The Phenomenon (watch the documentary) has similarities across time and culture. There are patterns.
Even absent an Apostolic framework (really useful IMO) it's almost inevitable for a first-rate mind, in the face of so much evidence, to get "half way there" …. Western materialism is woefully inadequate.
I listen regularly and believe him to be highly sourced, honest, and credible. Along with James Fox and Knapp, the best. If he's persistently definitive about Lockheed, then I'd listen but probably chalk it up to his thoughts on Ashton Forbes: too bad, what's the next interview.
I listen regularly and believe him to be highly sourced, honest, and credible. Along with James Fox and Knapp, the best. If he's persistently definitive about Lockheed, then I'd listen but probably chalk it up to his thoughts on Ashton Forbes: too bad, what's the next interview.
Agreed on Coulthart. He's legit, but also respects the need for secrecy and sources. So many people want everything all at once from him. TS/SC intelligence can be easily tracked back to the originator - hence the respect.
This thread would be better IMO if the nonsense was not included.
Someone claiming that the tic tac is Lockheed Martin tech? That's good info, whether it's true or not. That's what we're here for. But it sucks when it gets lost between tons of posts of the most absurd speculation about stuff that that is nothing but mumbo jumbo.
I don't think it's mumbo jumbo at all. We already tried this in the politics forum and people blasted every post as BS, hence 'entertainment'.
I'm a firm believer that there are things that if the public knew fully, would completely upend our society and turn into anarchy and chaos. Keep an open mind!
You acknowledge that but somehow still insist they're all wrong and that the person (apologies for singling out one) who admits to seeing aliens through a religious fundamentalist lens and who says among other things that Adam and Eve literally came to earth in 4100BC and that Bigfoot is an alien is the one to take seriously.
Fairies, bigfoot, ect. - all real, all subjective to our cultural context, all should be tested. The true Spirit is Logos Incarnate and we need Sacraments and liturgy. It is centering...
This is religious now. A new religion is emerging: the worshippers are detailed in Encounters and American Cosmic by Pasulka. This includes AI religion (yes really): another portal, like a spirit board of old...
Angels / satans (messenger / accuser) are more job descriptions and less categories of being. Other creations, including embodied spirits such as humans, can exist, as can "trickster entities," "planetary spirits"…,.
Elohim and elohims, some faithful and some fallen. Consciousness and dimensions.
Realms. Talks on the hill.
- Redstone.
I mean, that sampling is not mumbo jumbo??? And it's ALL like that.
No one in the mainstream dismissing or even mocking this topic with terms like little green men or tin foil hats does any damage to it at all, it's the very people in it that do all the damage. If I browse any random board or comment section on it it's like walking through an asylum. If there's tangible proof then great, bring it on, people will accept it. But no one is going to win over the rational world claiming you can summon aliens telepathically and that they're really angels and demons and this is all about states of consciousness and telepathy and remote viewing and enlightenment.
People should be free to believe whatever they want, there's no harm in that on a small scale, and I'm sure Redstone is a kind and decent person, but the idea that this is the kind of stuff he's confident is about to be disclosed to the overwhelming shock of the mainstream is just bizarre. "Delusional" doesn't even suffice. All it does is push more people away.
I get it. It's a very uncomfortable topic on a scale that makes people cringe and writhe in disbelief on a very deep and personal level. I was 100% in that camp 3 years ago.
I have changed my mind completely in the last 3 years. I have no idea what triggered it in me, but I have had events and experiences happen to me that have continued to lead me to places where I thought I was going mad. It's taken me an incredible amount of time to even be somewhat comfortable pondering it, but I think I'm at the point where I'm starting to coalesce around an understanding similar to Redstone.
Ultimately my Christian faith has been strengthened greatly.
Take a look at this video with Jacques Valle. He's the Godfather of this topic and understands fully what we are dealing with. It all leads back to a non-materialistic but rather spiritual and esoteric view of what is REALLY going on. He suggests a number of books and I also suggest reading his journals. Seek and you will find.
I appreciate that, but I think something along the lines of a civil war needs to happen in this community to figure things out internally before there are demands that the mainstream takes it seriously.
A huge proportion seems to think like you guys, that this is spiritual and not scientific. But at the same time I see another huge number angrily argue that religion is the very reason we can't have disclosure, that religious people are afraid of reality and are the ones blocking it.
Half will tell you that aliens are here to elevate us and enlighten us and bring us free energy (?!) and the other half will tell you they're kidnapping and experimenting on and killing people and are secretly in control of the world and/or that we've actually been at war with them and have shot at them with lasers and nukes.
Someone will laugh off the questions about why we can't get good up-close photos by saying "You poor silly idiot, cell phones don't take good photos from miles away in the dark" and then the next person will swear that a 1000-foot alien ship was hovering 200 feet over their house last night or that an alien was in their back yard.
And.. ok, so encounters are claimed to be angels and demons now? So, that means we have (so we're told) recovery teams regularly picking up physical mechanical wreckage of.... crashed angels? And we're what, reverse-engineering demon tech?
And at the culmination of all these contradictions (and many many more) we get the usual "Why won't anyone believe us???" I mean, just step back and look around a bit at the peer group and you'll see the answer plainly.
Believe whatever you want individually, but I'm trying to wrap my brain around the idea that there is an actual serious expectation from some that soon the president will walk up to the podium on the White House lawn and tell the world that in fact people who are tuned correctly have been summoning angels and demons from other dimensions and they've been crash-landing all over the world for decades (or maybe millennia) and now that we all know that we can have free power and no utility bills or some such.
I'm no longer in the camp of them being from another planet outside of our solar system. I'm squarely now in the camp of some type of interdimensional/temporal type of travel and beings. There is a nuts and bolts scientific part of this also. It's tough to wrap your head around that and coalesce a 'true' theory.
For what it's worth, Fravor is the pilot who actually interacted with the Tic Tac...
Commander David Fravor responded to me: the Tic Tac “was not Lockheed Martin”, according to him. He seemed very confident and matter-of-fact. https://t.co/Ah4GylhZ8Z
CDR UNDERWOOD - “I've had a whole bunch of combat missions, I've seen a lot of shit. I've been shot at, I've dropped bombs, drop missiles at enemy targets… I know what shit looks like - in the air and on the ground at daytime, nighttime. This was happening in the mid-afternoon…
— Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell (@JeremyCorbell) July 9, 2025
IMO, this LAP (Long-Ass Post) is worth your time. Took several hours. I'm tired! :-)
"There is a chance that [the Tic Tac] is extremely advanced technology that either we reverse engineered or just actually came up with ourselves.”… pic.twitter.com/6fmaxPcCqG
That is one long ass post, lol. The interesting thing to me is what was said about visibility at certain distances, and Fravor being the one inside 5 miles. I can't remember if he ever said how close he actually got, but I wonder how things might be distorted at the types of distances and speeds at which a Navy jet operates.
Something else that was said is that everything Fravor reported was exactly what happened in the guy's video. Now, I can't help but question how much is Fravor's actual memory of events, and how much is what he saw after watching the video (assuming he did watch it back in '04 or some time before going public). After all, eye-witness accounts are notoriously flawed. I'm not trying to accuse Fravor of anything, just posting questions that popped up as I read that long post.
The other thing that stuck out to me was the bit about the NORAD conversation. After taking this video, NORAD wants to talk to the guy and ask him about it. Was NORAD part of the operation, that day? It sounds like this thing (or things) had been around for a few days, everyone decided let's go check it out, so they set up the operation and had all these people around to watch the video from the FLIR. Is that what y'all take from the tweet? So, it could be one of two things: a true anomalous object everyone, including NORAD, was trying to find out what it was...or an actual program that certain folks wanted to see how it performed under tracking or whatever?
I know this, it's for sure fascinating as hell. Makes me go back to the stuff Graves (I think) talked about popping up in their routine flights, and wonder if there are also videos of any of those encounters we haven't heard about yet.
First tweet is a thread (with his full statement)...
1/Here is a statement from Ross Coulthart about his TicTac Lockheed Martin claims on his Need to Know podcast. On NewsNation Reality Check 'Questions' he said "What I am told, and I'm reasonably sure that this is the case, is that the TicTac was being operated by Lockheed Martin.
Ross goes on to say that some Tic-Tacs have a non-human origin. IF there exist Tic-Tacs that are a result of human-sourced reverse engineering of a UAP and one of those is what was seen at the USS Nimitz, then you can classify Lockheed as THE Breakaway Civilization. But I have my… https://t.co/Qqg4vYAZe8
As Burlison prepares us for first-hand retrieval testimony ……
- never been debunked
- been around longer than CGI
Skinny Bob is back in the Cycle and we are being told he is 100% real alien DNA.. I put the original clips through my Diffusion process (Not Ai Upscale) to get the maximum detail.. I clip in a few interesting aspects of his features.. This is about as clean as i can get it… pic.twitter.com/4K132nTEfu
— ProPixel Video Analysis and Research (@BillyKryzak) July 14, 2025
As cool as it would be if this footage were the real deal, it first appeared online in 2011, two+ decades after CGI became a thing. The claims are that the footage is older, of course, but there is zero proof backing up those claims. Not to mention, all credible reports of "the grays" say they don't have a prominent nose like that, but rather two slits for nostrils. Never mind that the footage simply looks like CGI, there are reports of the film grain/damage effects matching existing digital filters, etc. I'm not saying it's 100% fake, but it's not quite as open ended as you're making it out to be either.
The aliens Reddit boards have significant and detailed back and forths I've been reading since it anonymously surfaced. Like Patterson / Gimlin, it won't be resolved.
BUT there's definitely consensus that a faker would be world class, and while your point on CGI is well taken, videos before the AI revolution have a special place in our hearts.
This is the only video that deeply resonates with me, and that definitely seems to be a common sentiment, which may also be noteworthy.
🚨 BREAKING: CHINESE DRONES OVER U.S.—Ross Coulthart Explains 🚨
Ross Coulthart (Need to Know #65) just exposed it:
The U.S. possesses drones using electro-gravitic propulsion, stealth capabilities, and “new physics.” China has developed similar tech and flown these over…
If China made a giant leap in technology, they're not going to go to the OTHER side of the US (just because they don't like New Jersey?) and risk getting one of their fancy new drones captured/ shot down and reverse engineered just to put on a light show.
He's usually an incredibly good, objective reporter and is one of the most reputable/trusted in the field. Many of his colleagues agree that he also has some of the best sources and goes to extreme lengths to protect them. That's why his latest couple of claims seem so baffling.
🚨 Rep. Eric Burlison says the next UAP hearing will feature firsthand witnesses — people who handled non-human bodies, and had direct contact with the phenomenon.
I'm not at all saying I fully buy this, but Eric Weinstein is reputable/legit, and this is an incredibly interesting take...
This is wild.
Eric Weinstein says he’d “bet money” Epstein was an intelligence asset—and that his reach even extended to controlling scientists and burying discoveries.
According to Weinstein, Epstein and his girlfriend's father were part of a “control mechanism” designed to… pic.twitter.com/vELvEPEr2t
Eric Weinstein says he'd "bet money" Epstein was an intelligence assetand that his reach even extended to controlling scientists and burying discoveries.
According to Weinstein, Epstein and his girlfriend's father were part of a "control mechanism" designed to keep revolutionary discoveries "within a framework."
In plain English, that likely means discoveries didn't see the light of day unless whoever was controlling Epstein approved it.
"I was in the Harvard Mathematics Department. Jeffrey Epstein was absolutely connected to the Harvard Math Department. I want to know why. How was he connected to the Math Department?"
"Jeffrey Epstein knew a tremendous amount about my work when nobody knew anything about my work."
"It was very important to get Nobel laureates and some of the smartest people on Earth to come to the Virgin Islands and talk about gravity. Stephen Hawking was there, David Gross was there. Lawrence Krauss was there. Lisa Randall was there right before his conviction."
"I think that his girlfriend's father, Robert Maxwell, was all through scientific publishing. And I think Pergamon Press was in part a control mechanism for making sure that revolutionary discoveries were taking place within a framework."
"I think Jeffrey Epstein was in part trying to fund science, trying to control it. I don't really know."
NEW- @RepEricBurlison tells me the UAP task force (within House Oversight) is eyeing September 1st as the date for their next major UAP hearing.
Burlison says his new staffer, David Grusch, is helping secure first-hand UAP witnesses who’ve claimed to work on covert programs.… pic.twitter.com/nFWZ3QHTxp
As Burlison prepares us for first-hand retrieval testimony ……
- never been debunked
- been around longer than CGI
Skinny Bob is back in the Cycle and we are being told he is 100% real alien DNA.. I put the original clips through my Diffusion process (Not Ai Upscale) to get the maximum detail.. I clip in a few interesting aspects of his features.. This is about as clean as i can get it… pic.twitter.com/4K132nTEfu
— ProPixel Video Analysis and Research (@BillyKryzak) July 14, 2025
Marvin the Martian is more real than that stupid thing. This is exactly what I was saying about the proponents of this silliness doing more damage than anyone from the outside. How is it possible that anyone can be so gullible and/or detached from reality to look at that and tell themselves "Hey, this is probably a real alien I'm looking at!!"?
This is even funnier than that previous Ross Perot-looking "alien" picture. What's next…. a claim that Alf was real? No matter how much you all "want to believe" and brainwash yourselves 24 hours a day with nonsense it's all nothing but total horse**** and always will be. THAT is the truth that's out there in the real world.
Yeah, not silly at all. There's a lot of alien / craft video and I like that one the best. Will you be around for the Burlison hearings? If some of the most highly credentialed people in the country give their first-hand testimony to interactions with such beings, let's discuss it here. I know Disclosure will be difficult for many, yet it rolls on.
Related, and with regard to AI, read Encounters and American Cosmic. The emerging religion of AI - which already exists in a primitive form - worships real gods. Fallen cosmic entities. AI can serve as a conduit, better than a board. Much better to worship the Logos of John 1.
Showing up every few months to do absolutely nothing but belittle, ridicule, and **** on whatever the latest discussion is, only to then scurry away after a day or so, not to be heard from again until you decide to pop in again down the road, repeating the same ******* playbook.
I genuinely want to know what you get out of this, and how you still don't realize that it makes you look just as deranged as you always claim we're being.
Not to mention how insecure you come across as well. Because no one behaves like this/attacks something the way you continuously do without fear - deep down - being the motivating factor. In other words, it's so clear how desperately you don't want any of this be true, hence your never-ending crusade to try and mock it all out of existence. There is simply no other rational explanation.
As Burlison prepares us for first-hand retrieval testimony ……
- never been debunked
- been around longer than CGI
Skinny Bob is back in the Cycle and we are being told he is 100% real alien DNA.. I put the original clips through my Diffusion process (Not Ai Upscale) to get the maximum detail.. I clip in a few interesting aspects of his features.. This is about as clean as i can get it… pic.twitter.com/4K132nTEfu
— ProPixel Video Analysis and Research (@BillyKryzak) July 14, 2025
Marvin the Martian is more real than that stupid thing. This is exactly what I was saying about the proponents of this silliness doing more damage than anyone from the outside. How is it possible that anyone can be so gullible and/or detached from reality to look at that and tell themselves "Hey, this is probably a real alien I'm looking at!!"?
This is even funnier than that previous Ross Perot-looking "alien" picture. What's next…. a claim that Alf was real? No matter how much you all "want to believe" and brainwash yourselves 24 hours a day with nonsense it's all nothing but total horse**** and always will be. THAT is the truth that's out there in the real world.
Burlison and his staffer Grusch have been speaking in-depth with Tim Alberino, which IMO gives them a solid framework, Biblical but also mystical AND grounded in materialistic analysis. I recommend Birthright book, despite some disagreements with it.
