*** THE ODYSSEY *** (Christopher Nolan)

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8:21a, 5/12/26
Not that it will matter, but let's try and remind ourselves that all of this stems from a website called Cosmic Book News that has a habit of taking things its staff reads on Reddit and presenting them as facts in order to get clicks and re-shares. They've found their golden goose with this rumor.'


Here are a few other things they've posted as fact in the last few years:

1. Marvel was buying DC in 2020
2. Galactus was going to be in "The Marvels" movie
3. James Gunn had been fired by DC

So, if necessary, continue to flame away about something that is more than likely untrue; it's your right, but it's very unlikely to be true.





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8:33a, 5/12/26
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Lol. Lmao.

https://time.com/article/2026/05/12/christopher-nolan-odyssey-interview/
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In reply to Sea Speed • 8:52a, 5/12/26
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Sea Speed said:
Lol. Lmao.

https://time.com/article/2026/05/12/christopher-nolan-odyssey-interview/

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In reply to CharleyKerfeld • 8:56a, 5/12/26
CharleyKerfeld said:


So, if necessary, continue to flame away about something that is more than likely untrue; it's your right, but it's very unlikely to be true.



That you have to include "more than likely" untrue while attempting to discredit the source is part of the point. Hollywood has become such a biazzaro world clown operation in so many ways that even the most strange rumors might be satire or real. No one ****ing knows anymore. That Juno might or might not be cast as Achilles is honestly strange. If it comes to pass, you will credit Nolan for his daring choice. If it doesn't, you shame anyone who believed rumors on X.

Nolan is obviously a totally capable director. I'm not doubting his ability, which is proven. Just a bit confused about casting and stylistic stuff so far. I thought Ridley knocked it out of the park with The Last Duel and airballed on Napoleon. He is insanely talented as well, but took a movie about Napoleon in a direction that didn't work.
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9:05a, 5/12/26
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Same time article confirms lupita nyongo is playing Helen AND Helens sister.


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9:23a, 5/12/26
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Is there a reason that full casting for the movie isn't known by now, seeing as how we're only 2 months away from it's release? Is that normal?

Maybe it is, but its a shame because the seeming "secrecy" of the full casting only lends credence to the rumor of Paige being Achilles. It would make sense that Nolan or the studio is keeping that particular casting under wraps as a somewhat lame attempt to try and avoid the inevitable negative backlash/publicity from it. I mean, if Paige is NOT Achilles why wouldn't they just simply announce who their character really is?
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9:29a, 5/12/26
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Hasn't it been a habit of Nolan's to keep a lot of the casting choices and roles in his movies pretty well under wraps until the premier? Or at least until the screenings for the critics?
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9:30a, 5/12/26
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Some of y'all are taking this too seriously. It's obvious this is going to be more like the Romeo + Juliet movie from the 90s with DiCaprio than some legit authentic story. It's fiction, it's a story, not everything has to be hyper realistic.
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In reply to Belton Ag • 9:32a, 5/12/26
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Not really for the main roles, but I think for this, since the bulk of the story is very well known, he is holding anything close that he can. Obviously how he frames the story and the casting are the only things he can keep to surprise the audience.
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In reply to Bruce Almighty • 9:56a, 5/12/26
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Bruce Almighty said:
Some of y'all are taking this too seriously. It's obvious this is going to be more like the Romeo + Juliet movie from the 90s with DiCaprio than some legit authentic story. It's fiction, it's a story, not everything has to be hyper realistic.

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In reply to Bruce Almighty • 10:02a, 5/12/26
If he does go that weird with it, I'll probably like it in some form. I'd like him to either honor the source material and bring classical antiquity to life OR do something way out there, but hoping it won't be a middle of the road approach.
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10:18a, 5/12/26
All roles being played by all white males wearing masks to depict emotions is the only way to truly honor the source material
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10:36a, 5/12/26
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Very happy to see Nolan expanding the horizons of "European" literature and myth.

We can and must do better. He understands that. Can't wait for the film, and to see Page and Scott on the biggest of screens …..

no matter what a few "critics" have to say.
Edit: please post what you may be hearing about further Diverse casting. I'm finally happy to be back at the movies again.

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In reply to tk for tu juan • 10:37a, 5/12/26
tk for tu juan said:
All roles being played by all white males wearing masks to depict emotions is the only way to truly honor the source material

Here, here!

Tom Holland is just pretty enough to play Helena, slap some rouge and lipstick on him.
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In reply to Cliff.Booth • 11:00a, 5/12/26
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Cliff.Booth said:
CharleyKerfeld said:


So, if necessary, continue to flame away about something that is more than likely untrue; it's your right, but it's very unlikely to be true.



That you have to include "more than likely" untrue while attempting to discredit the source is part of the point. Hollywood has become such a biazzaro world clown operation in so many ways that even the most strange rumors might be satire or real. No one ****ing knows anymore. That Juno might or might not be cast as Achilles is honestly strange. If it comes to pass, you will credit Nolan for his daring choice. If it doesn't, you shame anyone who believed rumors on X.

Nolan is obviously a totally capable director. I'm not doubting his ability, which is proven. Just a bit confused about casting and stylistic stuff so far. I thought Ridley knocked it out of the park with The Last Duel and airballed on Napoleon. He is insanely talented as well, but took a movie about Napoleon in a direction that didn't work.


Five months into the year, I've seen nine new movies in theaters, a couple more new ones on streaming, and not a single one of them was "woke" in any way. Does Hollywood inject their liberal nonsense into their movies every so often? Of course. But it's simply not nearly at the level or rate y'all's endless complaining in every other thread would indicate.

Second, we've now reached the point where senators are bloviating **** like this, based on a RUMOR that likely isn't true…



For all y'all's complaining about Hollywood's preaching, the point is that y'all then do it ten fold back at everyone else, acting like the world is falling apart because of it. It's just so over-the-top, in such ridiculous, pearl-clutching fashion, that it gets as old and predictable and cliched as y'all claim Hollywood's messaging is.
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11:01a, 5/12/26
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Staff should create a "Remove Star" button for only Redstone.
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In reply to ttaggie • 11:03a, 5/12/26
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Supposedly this version of the character IS some sort of weak version of its former self, in hell or purgatory or something.

But then, in a weird way, would that be somewhat "bigoted" or disrespectful to the trans community, who assures us that Elliot Page is a real man...not a weak or diminished one...every bit a man as you and me, or Paul Mescal or any other male actor?

"Sure you can play a male role, but given your condition and true biological sex, it's going to have to be a very weak and diminished one who is basically a feminized, suffering shell of his former self"
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In reply to Lathspell • 11:04a, 5/12/26
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I'm bringing news and analysis to this thread - but only periodically, when there is something substantive to add.

Nolan detailing how The Odyssey relates to The Rap Game is important and newsworthy.
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In reply to Hardcore Greg • 11:06a, 5/12/26
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If this ends up being the case, I would be right there with you. It's a great point, one that underlines liberal hypocrisy to a tee. I'm simply saying, Nolan going there would be so insanely out of character (no pun intended) that maybe let's wait to see if it's actually true before we start hemming and hawing.
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In reply to TCTTS • 11:09a, 5/12/26
TCTTS said:
Cliff.Booth said:
CharleyKerfeld said:


So, if necessary, continue to flame away about something that is more than likely untrue; it's your right, but it's very unlikely to be true.



That you have to include "more than likely" untrue while attempting to discredit the source is part of the point. Hollywood has become such a biazzaro world clown operation in so many ways that even the most strange rumors might be satire or real. No one ****ing knows anymore. That Juno might or might not be cast as Achilles is honestly strange. If it comes to pass, you will credit Nolan for his daring choice. If it doesn't, you shame anyone who believed rumors on X.

Nolan is obviously a totally capable director. I'm not doubting his ability, which is proven. Just a bit confused about casting and stylistic stuff so far. I thought Ridley knocked it out of the park with The Last Duel and airballed on Napoleon. He is insanely talented as well, but took a movie about Napoleon in a direction that didn't work.


Five months into the year, I've seen nine new movies in theaters, a couple more new ones on streaming, and not a single one of them was "woke" in any way. Does Hollywood inject their liberal nonsense into their movies every so often? Of course. But it's simply not nearly at the level or rate y'all's endless complaining in every other thread would indicate.

Second, we've now reached the point where senators are bloviating **** like this, based on a RUMOR that likely isn't true…



For all y'all's complaining about Hollywood's preaching, the point is that y'all then do it ten fold back at everyone else, acting like the world is falling apart because of it. It's just so over-the-top, in such ridiculous, pearl-clutching fashion, that it gets as old and predictable and cliched as y'all claim Hollywood's messaging is.

From where I sit, there has DEINITELY 1000% been a political-cultural-social push to fight against things like "toxic" masculinity, the traditional family structure, traditional values, customs, norms etc etc.

I am not saying at all that that is what is happening or will happen with this movie...so far Christopher Nolan has seemed to have no interest in playing such games...but I can't believe anyone would act like it's crazy to acknowledge this cultural phenomenon in general. It's a time honored tactic of the far left (think democratic socialists like Mamdami and that crazy mayoral candidate in LA who laughs off parents' concerns about drug fueled bums near elementary schools)...wage war against traditional institutions.

Not everyone you disagree with is crazy. This guy might be dead wrong re: the movie, he probably is (I still think Nolan is too smart to actually do what some are accusing him off with this movie)...but to act like this isn't a real cultural/social phenomenon is pretty absurd imo.
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In reply to TCTTS • 11:10a, 5/12/26
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If this ends up being the case, I would be right there with you. It's a great point, one that underlines liberal hypocrisy to a tee. I'm simply saying, Nolan going there would be so insanely out of character (no pun intended) that maybe let's wait to see if it's actually true before we start hemming and hawing.

Yep, agreed.
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In reply to Hardcore Greg • 11:12a, 5/12/26
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Hardcore Greg said:
TCTTS said:
Cliff.Booth said:
CharleyKerfeld said:


So, if necessary, continue to flame away about something that is more than likely untrue; it's your right, but it's very unlikely to be true.



That you have to include "more than likely" untrue while attempting to discredit the source is part of the point. Hollywood has become such a biazzaro world clown operation in so many ways that even the most strange rumors might be satire or real. No one ****ing knows anymore. That Juno might or might not be cast as Achilles is honestly strange. If it comes to pass, you will credit Nolan for his daring choice. If it doesn't, you shame anyone who believed rumors on X.

Nolan is obviously a totally capable director. I'm not doubting his ability, which is proven. Just a bit confused about casting and stylistic stuff so far. I thought Ridley knocked it out of the park with The Last Duel and airballed on Napoleon. He is insanely talented as well, but took a movie about Napoleon in a direction that didn't work.


Five months into the year, I've seen nine new movies in theaters, a couple more new ones on streaming, and not a single one of them was "woke" in any way. Does Hollywood inject their liberal nonsense into their movies every so often? Of course. But it's simply not nearly at the level or rate y'all's endless complaining in every other thread would indicate.

Second, we've now reached the point where senators are bloviating **** like this, based on a RUMOR that likely isn't true…



For all y'all's complaining about Hollywood's preaching, the point is that y'all then do it ten fold back at everyone else, acting like the world is falling apart because of it. It's just so over-the-top, in such ridiculous, pearl-clutching fashion, that it gets as old and predictable and cliched as y'all claim Hollywood's messaging is.

From where I sit, there has DEINITELY 1000% been a political-cultural-social push to fight against things like "toxic" masculinity, the traditional family structure, traditional values etc etc.

I am not saying at all that that is what is or will happen with this movie...so far Christopher Nolan has seemed to have no interest in playing such games...but I can't believe anyone would act like it's crazy to acknowledge this cultural phenomenon in general.

Not everyone you disagree with is crazy. This guy might be dead wrong re: the movie, he probably is (I still think Nolan is too smart to actually do what some are accusing him off with this movie)...but to act like this isn't a real cultural/social phenomenon is pretty absurd imo.


Again, read my post. Acknowledging it is a completely different thing than endlessly and prematurely complaining about it in thread after thread before certain movies are even released. I'm talking about the latter, not the former. Especially when time and time and time again the complaining doesn't end up being justified, the end result doesn't end up being woke in any way, etc. There's this attitude now that "all movies are woke until proven otherwise" that isn't remotely justified, considering the amount of movies that actually *are* woke.
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11:20a, 5/12/26
Now if Achilles shows up and says:
'Sup Odie, the afterlife is mid, keep it one hundo on Earth for as long as possible my dude

I will be slightly perturbed, that would be way too much adapting the story to the current regional culture
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11:22a, 5/12/26
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Love this spot...

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In reply to TCTTS • 11:23a, 5/12/26
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Appreciated. I haven't been including Zendaya. It's excellent to see improved casting there, just as with Dune.
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12:42p, 5/12/26
I don't care what they tell you in school, Helen of Troy was black.
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12:46p, 5/12/26
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I'm as big a Nolan fan as any(I have a original script from Inception and I read the initial Interstellar script before Nolan edited it), and sadly I'll be waiting for the audience reviews on this one…

I have real issues with intentionally miscasting historical epics for the sake of DEI. It's done so to intentionally mislead the ethnic and racial makeup of past societies that are just not true. Gullible kids and adults will see the movie and accept it as historical fact. God knows people are stupid enough as is, do we really have to misrepresent classic literature to check some damn box on some damn DEI list in every freaking movie?

Do a reimagined version if you're going to intentionally change the casting of the characters for "modern audiences". O Brother Where Art Thou is one of the best Odyssey versions out there and even has a prominent black supporting character in Tommy, it makes sense because the setting is in Mississippi during the Depression where you would indeed find Black Americans there.

Do some reimagining like that, not this crap where every historical event appears to have a heterogeneous population for a DEI quota, because it's intentionally misrepresenting the original story. Hollywood has put too much suspension of disbelief requirements on audiences now, and they wonder why audiences have stopped going to the movies. Audiences want to escape the realities they have to deal with everyday from issues just like DEI, now they can't even escape that in modern movies.

As a teenager and young adult I went to the movies every month, sometime multiple times depending on the movies. Now I'm lucky if there's more than one movie a year that I want to go see. I love a good story, so it sucks seeing the state of modern storytelling.
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In reply to Redstone • 12:51p, 5/12/26
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Redstone said:
Appreciated. I haven't been including Zendaya. It's excellent to see improved casting there, just as with Dune.


Redstone,

what are your thoughts on recasting this recently released movie based on historical events to "improve" the casting by diversifying it with white, asian, and hispanic actors in some of the lead roles? I'm assuming you'd be all for it as a means towards equity in Hollywood.


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In reply to hunter2012 • 12:56p, 5/12/26
OH MY GOD BRO. It hasn't EVEN COME OUT YET. You pearl-clutching, foaming at the mouth, MAGA-hat wearing, sanctimonious flyover state dweller. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! You better STOP POSTING ABOUT THIS until it comes out, unless it is positive, because that is a rule. ****ING RELAX because I am very relaxed about this.
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In reply to tk for tu juan • 12:59p, 5/12/26
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tk for tu juan said:
Now if Achilles shows up and says:
'Sup Odie, the afterlife is mid, keep it one hundo on Earth for as long as possible my dude

I will be slightly perturbed, that would be way too much adapting the story to the current regional culture

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In reply to FL_Ag1998 • 1:14p, 5/12/26
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Opposed. Stories should be authentically told, especially Black history. This has been well established since 2020.
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In reply to hunter2012 • 1:18p, 5/12/26
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hunter2012 said:
I'm as big a Nolan fan as any(I have a original script from Inception and I read the initial Interstellar script before Nolan edited it), and sadly I'll be waiting for the audience reviews on this one…

I have real issues with intentionally miscasting historical epics for the sake of DEI. It's done so to intentionally mislead the ethnic and racial makeup of past societies that are just not true. Gullible kids and adults will see the movie and accept it as historical fact. God knows people are stupid enough as is, do we really have to misrepresent classic literature to check some damn box on some damn DEI list in every freaking movie?

Do a reimagined version if you're going to intentionally change the casting of the characters for "modern audiences". O Brother Where Art Thou is one of the best Odyssey versions out there and even has a prominent black supporting character in Tommy, it makes sense because the setting is in Mississippi during the Depression where you would indeed find Black Americans there.

Do some reimagining like that, not this crap where every historical event appears to have a heterogeneous population for a DEI quota, because it's intentionally misrepresenting the original story. Hollywood has put too much suspension of disbelief requirements on audiences now, and they wonder why audiences have stopped going to the movies. Audiences want to escape the realities they have to deal with everyday from issues just like DEI, now they can't even escape that in modern movies.

As a teenager and young adult I went to the movies every month, sometime multiple times depending on the movies. Now I'm lucky if there's more than one movie a year that I want to go see. I love a good story, so it sucks seeing the state of modern storytelling.


Dude, come on.

This is a FANTASY epic. Featuring a cyclops, hypnotic sirens, a six-headed monster, cannibalistic giants, literal Greek gods, etc, etc. In no way, shape, or form is this story meant to be historically accurate.

Also, there is absolutely zero indication Nolan is casting black actors "for the sake of DEI." Tell me, if Nolan is so concerned with DEI, why is there only one minor black character in one scene in Oppenheimer? Why would Nolan be so concerned with historical accuracy in one movie and not the other? Oppenheimer is literally one of the whitest blockbusters of all time. Yet, in his follow-up movie, Nolan suddenly cares deeply about representation? Seriously?

Or... maybe there's another reason, one we'll discover when we actually see the movie for ourselves.

Do you ever stop to think that you're the one making a bigger deal out of it than you should be? That every time black people play characters who you think are supposed to be white, you don't have to react like society is falling apart? Maybe ask yourself why skin color is so important to you in a make-believe movie about make-believe monsters set in a make-believe world. I just it very curious that you're not at all concerned with the historical accuracy of cyclopses, sirens, a six-headed monster, giants, and literal Greek gods, but when it comes to skin color it's suddenly some great historical sin that's going to cause "gullible kids and adults" to stumble through the streets in mass confusion. According to your logic, it's perfectly fine for them to potentially think monsters and gods were real. But god forbid they think a black person lived when/where one didn't. The horror!

Good Lord.
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In reply to Cliff.Booth • 1:20p, 5/12/26
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Cliff.Booth said:
OH MY GOD BRO. It hasn't EVEN COME OUT YET. You pearl-clutching, foaming at the mouth, MAGA-hat wearing, sanctimonious flyover state dweller. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! You better STOP POSTING ABOUT THIS until it comes out, unless it is positive, because that is a rule. ****ING RELAX because I am very relaxed about this.


You realize the exact same, mocking/exaggerated post can be made about the endless complaining you guys are doing?

Also, leave it to you to exaggerate my position to a ridiculous degree, seeing as I've never once said "you better stop posting about X" or anything of the sort.

Once again. you're stating your opinion, I'm stating mine, and simply asking that people not jump to the most ridiculous conclusions in the process. That's it and that's all.
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In reply to TCTTS • 1:25p, 5/12/26
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THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
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