*** SUPERMAN *** (Spoiler Thread)

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From what I've read, domestic box office is strong, international is really weak
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hoosierAG said:

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I've seen fan theories that Jor-El and Lara were forced to say that by Zod, and others to highlight that Superman made the choice to be a hero more because of his human upbringing.

And the Supergirl thing is right on par with how she starts off in the comic her movie will be based on. She's not as altruistic as her cousin, is hot headed, and deals with the weight of watching Krypton be destroyed.

Great, thanks for that. I wondered and assumed their had to be a purpose for that Supergirl scene. Don't know her lore or that there was even a movie coming for her.


Then why didnt you like that scene?
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When they retire TC to the TexAgs Hall of Fame, the 10-edit blank post on this thread will be enshrined.
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canadiaggie said:

From what I've read, domestic box office is strong, international is really weak

It did really badly in Boravia
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In my defense that wasn't my usual OCD self. TexAgs kept showing all this crazy HTML code for some reason, that I couldn't get rid of, so I finally tried starting over with a new post.
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canadiaggie said:

From what I've read, domestic box office is strong, international is really weak


I hope Hollywood doesn't feel the need to have their dick in a claw like grip from China moving forward
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https://instagr.am/p/DMD71VjTdiq
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Something subtle that I liked was that Perry White in particular and the whole Planet staff in general was never even remotely nervous about threat to Metropolis, including the giant time / space rift thing. And it makes sense, because Superman would have made their building and staff a top priority to save even before he started dating Lois. I guess that might also be why so many people are just standing around watching the Kaiju instead of running like hell.

It reminds me of a panel in Red Son where Premiere Superman and Wonder Woman are hanging out and he says people don't even wear seatbelts anymore because they know Superman (way more powerful in that version) will show up to save them if they get in a bad wreck.
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Not bad.
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I just got back. I didn't love it. Wasn't awful, just didn't love it. Wife hated it. Daughter was meh (Said Jurassic Park was better). Son liked it. Father in law liked it.

I don't particularly like Superman to begin with (I don't think I like any DC heroes except Batman). I usually feel like his movies are pretty boring. I was going to wait for streaming, but my Father in Law wanted to see it. This was definitely more fun than the recent Superman movies, but still not close to peak Marvel movies. A lot of it just felt too silly for me. Marvel movies, especially Guardians, can get pretty silly, too, but I feel like they work better than this. I wasn't a fan of the dog or the Justice Gang, and I felt like the special effects for the aliens/monsters were super cheesy. Clearly, I seem to be in minority, though.
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AgfromHOU said:

https://instagr.am/p/DMD71VjTdiq


Damn she's hot
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canadiaggie said:

AgfromHOU said:

https://instagr.am/p/DMD71VjTdiq


Damn she's hot


My favorite part of the movie, and I am not talking about Jimmy Olsen.
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Ag Since 83 said:

I thought the movie was kind of rough at the beginning. I get not wanting to do the full origin story, but for what felt like quite a while we had very little context about character motivation. They just relied on the audience already being familiar with Clark/Superman, Lois, and Lex from the comics and earlier iterations, and that only goes so far. For a Superman story to work, you really have to relate to Clark, and he was in Superman mode for most of the first act (even the first apartment scene when I guess he was technically Clark).

And then you introduce the broader and less well known DC characters, and again, I just felt like I needed more context when they were introduced.

As someone who really only knows the basics of Superman, I agree with this. I was fine with them not explaining how Superman crashed into Earth, or anything like that, but I have don't really know anything about Lex Luther. I know who Lois is, and kind of know Jimmy Olson, but I didn't know who anyone else at the newspaper was. I also don't know anything about the Justice Gang. Both my wife and daughter kept asking me who people were, and I didn't know.

A couple of questions for the people who know more about the universe:
1. Did Superman create the Super-robots, or did they come down with him in his spaceship? This is the first time I've ever seen then, and I've never thought of Superman/Clark Kent as a scientist/inventor like Tony Stark, so these things were a bit confusing.

2. Are any of the Justice Gang meant to be taken seriously as Super Heroes? The only one I've ever heard of is Green Latern, but based off the Ryan Reynolds movie and the jokes in The Lego Movie, I am starting to get the impression that he's not really to be taken seriously, and that all the other DC superheroes basically laugh at him.

3. Is it comic-accurate for Lex to be an inventor/scientist? I've always just thought of him as generic rich dude who wants to conquer the world. Almost like a Bond villain.
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AustinAg2K said:


A couple of questions for the people who know more about the universe:
1. Did Superman create the Super-robots, or did they come down with him in his spaceship? This is the first time I've ever seen then, and I've never thought of Superman/Clark Kent as a scientist/inventor like Tony Stark, so these things were a bit confusing.

2. Are any of the Justice Gang meant to be taken seriously as Super Heroes? The only one I've ever heard of is Green Latern, but based off the Ryan Reynolds movie and the jokes in The Lego Movie, I am starting to get the impression that he's not really to be taken seriously, and that all the other DC superheroes basically laugh at him.

3. Is it comic-accurate for Lex to be an inventor/scientist? I've always just thought of him as generic rich dude who wants to conquer the world. Almost like a Bond villain.

1. Generally the Superman robots are a package deal with the Fortress of Solitude and usually a creation of Jor-El.

2. Hawkgirl and Mr. Fantastic are both very efficient at their jobs in the movie. Fillion's Guy Gardner - usually kind of a D*bag Green Lantern of the three main earthly GL's is clearly there for comic relief, but in theory GL could potentially be the strongest of all of all the superheroes. Like the Engineer, his power is only limited by his mind's ability to create.

3. Lex is definitely an inventor. That's why Superman infuriates him - because his powers are all just a fluke from being on a different planet than where he was born; granted Luthor is filthy rich, but considers his mind the real weapon.
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AgfromHOU said:

https://instagr.am/p/DMD71VjTdiq


That woman's costume was . . . well . . . Eyes up here
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The Original Houston 1836 said:

AustinAg2K said:


A couple of questions for the people who know more about the universe:
1. Did Superman create the Super-robots, or did they come down with him in his spaceship? This is the first time I've ever seen then, and I've never thought of Superman/Clark Kent as a scientist/inventor like Tony Stark, so these things were a bit confusing.

2. Are any of the Justice Gang meant to be taken seriously as Super Heroes? The only one I've ever heard of is Green Latern, but based off the Ryan Reynolds movie and the jokes in The Lego Movie, I am starting to get the impression that he's not really to be taken seriously, and that all the other DC superheroes basically laugh at him.

3. Is it comic-accurate for Lex to be an inventor/scientist? I've always just thought of him as generic rich dude who wants to conquer the world. Almost like a Bond villain.

1. Generally the Superman robots are a package deal with the Fortress of Solitude and usually a creation of Jor-El.

2. Hawkgirl and Mr. Fantastic are both very efficient at their jobs in the movie. Fillion's Guy Gardner - usually kind of a D*bag Green Lantern of the three main earthly GL's is clearly there for comic relief, but in theory GL could potentially be the strongest of all of all the superheroes. Like the Engineer, his power is only limited by his mind's ability to create.

3. Lex is definitely an inventor. That's why Superman infuriates him - because his powers are all just a fluke from being on a different planet than where he was born; granted Luthor is filthy rich, but considers his mind the real weapon.

Thanks.
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lets make sure to not go a page without giving Mr. Terrific his flowers
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Saxsoon said:

AgfromHOU said:

https://instagr.am/p/DMD71VjTdiq


That woman's costume was . . . well . . . Eyes up here


Was there any reason for her to be in this movie other than the costume? Seriously, I don't even remember her having a line.
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The Original Houston 1836 said:

Something subtle that I liked was that Perry White in particular and the whole Planet staff in general was never even remotely nervous about threat to Metropolis, including the giant time / space rift thing. And it makes sense, because Superman would have made their building and staff a top priority to save even before he started dating Lois. I guess that might also be why so many people are just standing around watching the Kaiju instead of running like hell.

It reminds me of a panel in Red Son where Premiere Superman and Wonder Woman are hanging out and he says people don't even wear seatbelts anymore because they know Superman (way more powerful in that version) will show up to save them if they get in a bad wreck.


They mentioned that superheroes first appeared 300 years ago. That's 300 years for people to get used to being in some form of peril that is way beyond their ability to affect the outcome. I imagine it's almost like living next to an active volcano. At some point you just get on with your life and hope it doesn't erupt.
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I'm sure she will be in other things, but Cat Grant is generally a floozy and hits on Clark a lot
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Saw it today. This will be a huge summer blockbuster. Very entertaining and just feels like a grand summer movie. Felt like Superman in somewhat of the Guardians universe with some of that tone. Gunn pulled it off. I feel like as Marvel has had an amazing run, it's gotten somewhat stale. This is a fresh new universe with Superman that's been created, and DC may really start to flip the script here. This may be the start of something huge.
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Krypto was also hilarious and amazing. This was a fantastic comic book style movie, over the top and funny like Guardians at times. But Gunn really did pull it off. The time flew by and it was entertaining adventure and visual spectacle with good characters.
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I think the sense of freshness is key. It made me excited to see what other movies they'll make in this universe. My general level of interest in marvel is significantly lower at this point.
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Agreed. I want to see more of this universe. Amazing kick off by Gunn and DC.
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Simultaneously the absolute weirdest, most random song to end a Superman movie with… yet it could not be more perfect for this iteration, and is a song that sticks in your head/leaves you feeling damn good when the theater lights come up.
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Yep. Awesome theme weaved in by Gunn with this song fitting right in. Superman's humanity, empathy and kindness is the punk rock . . . His true power. He's human.

Luthor: "You think everyone you meet is the most beautiful person in the world!"

Superman: "Maybe that's the punk rock."
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PatAg said:

lets make sure to not go a page without giving Mr. Terrific his flowers
that scene with him calmly and smoothly crushing the enemies in the desert. Amazing scene.
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Took my parents yesterday to a pretty packed 4 PM showing.

None of us had done DBOX before, and we all came away thoroughly impressed with how cool it was. We are big Disney World fans and we all thought it felt like a Disney ride, in the best way.

As for the movie itself, we all enjoyed it. My parents in particular, who don't go to the movies much these days, were really impressed with the CGI and fight scenes. We watched Superman 78 last weekend in preparation for it, and hearing the classic John Williams theme in there really made it feel like a Superman movie.

For myself, I thought the movie was pretty fun and enjoyable as are most James Gunn movies. I had some small issues, such as I felt that skipping the origin wasn't the best choice for this particular movie/universe. I wish we got to see some of his childhood, how the Clark/Lois relationship developed, and how Superman revealed himself to the world.

Also felt the Krypto scenes, while fun, were TOO much of a focus.

But overall, a solid 8/10 and a good start to a new cinematic universe.
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Was so much fun taking my wife and kids to see this! This was my boys first introduction to Superman and was very pleased at how much they tried to show his love to try and protect everyone...the quick little bit with the squirrel was a really nice touch.

Loved that they skipped over a bunch of origin story stuff and I feel like I was a pretty good audience for taking that risk because I never saw ANY of the DC films post Christopher Nolan and have only seen the first 3 original superman films and I've never picked up a comic book so I was probably more in the dark than most people and I really appreciated just getting to see these characters go at it. So about the characters....

Superman...i thought he was great! I'd like to think Christopher Reeve would be proud of how this character worked on screen in this movie. He was fun. He was positive. He wanted to do everything he could to save mankind....showed best in the fight scene with the giant kaiju or whatever that thing was....

Mr Terrific was a lot of fun. I pretty much saw him as a nerdy Batman type character and assuming Batman is going to be in this at some point they could be a fun team up together.

Hawkgirl...I know just as much about her as I did before the movie other than the fact that she screams when she fights...did enjoy that she just murdered that one countries leader though.

Green Lantern...ok am I the only one who thought that was Woody Harrelson?? Again I wasn't following any news on casting and obviously now I know that was Nathan Filion but good grief he seemed to be trying to do his best Woody Harrelson impression from Venom 2 straight down to the awkward haircut...wish he could have been on screen just a tad more....couldve used him with mr terrific breaking out supes from lex's prison...

Louis Lane...so so glad they went straight to them already knowing each other and being in a relationship. Yes the "secret identity" stuff between main characters can be fun but we've seen that done so many times so I was happy when they made it obvious early on they were already together. The little clip later on about how the glasses hide his face was a nice little touch.

Lex Luthor...so I've never been big on this charactor nor is it a character i know much about...i just assumed that he's supposed to be the DC version of Thrawn but if i'm wrong tell me...so was this a good example of what Lex Luthor should be? I never liked him in the originals either just never found him intimidating...in this one i at least thought he was intimidating but i cannot stand when the main bad guy is calling out moves for another bad guy to do......gave me wolverine origins vibes all over again with those fight scenes....

The message...really really liked the message they gave regarding parental figures and theyre supposed to give you the tools to become the person you choose to be...and not become what they want you to be....i just wish they didnt have to retcon the original parental figures from the story. it's not upsetting to me at all as i wasn't too attached to the original stories anyway but i know that'll piss off a good bit of people....also surprising they went in all the way with it....i just knew something was going to come out that was going to show that lex faked it in some way but nope they made it 100% true...which i also do respect in some ways also...

bottom line....it was great! it was fun! and it got a really good laugh out of me when supes said, "I'm not playing around i'm doing really important stuff."
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So are these numbers inclusive of the early showings?
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Yes.
 
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