Cliff.Booth said:

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I did mock your kind of condescending tone toward me/others for having a different interpretation, but I'm sorry if I said anything that gave the impression I am hateful toward you. I hate how Hollywood fans the flames, and sometimes when you seem to excuse or defend it, I am guilty of taking out that emotion on you, but you're a fellow Ag and good dude in real life. Absolutely no hate.

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TCTTS said:

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I look forward to you passing the 5th grade.

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Keep pumping out crap films that only 30% of the country supports, at huge costs. Seems like a good business model. 5th graders understand that isn't a great idea. They also understand how box office profits get divided

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TCTTS said:

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Oh, so you *do* have more stupid questions.

First of all, do you hear yourself?

Earlier I described the most fervent, prototypical F16 poster, and now you show up, almost on cue, perfectly embodying every cliche as if conjured directly from that description itself.

Never mind the fact that I've addressed damn near every hate/coke-fueled question of yours in this thread already, save for "What do you think about communism and socialism?"

Hahaha what?

Um, they're bad?

I can't stand them and have never once remotely supported either one.

Now, I'm sure that won't be good enough for you, but it's going to have to suffice, because we're done here.

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FancyKetchup14 said:

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It isn't my favorite PTA film but I really enjoyed it. It's certainly worth the price of admission and I recommend seeing it on the big screen. I got to see it in 70mm format and in the age of digital film making, it was actually really refreshing to see the small imperfections in the film stock briefly flashing on the screen. It reminded me A) how beautiful film stock really looks when it is done right and B) PTA is a freaking craftsman. It looks great and some of the shots/sequences were incredible.

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All I can say is I've read these boards for years and rarely post because I fear your reaction if you disagree. If you go read your responses in the past you tend to attack the person and not the message. I've seen enough instances of your use of extreme adjectives that led itself to being abusive language towards someone you don't agree with

like calling responding peoples' thoughts insane for example or you attack them in some way for a opposite belief this is meant to be a constructive criticism to your industry but you tend to respond aggressively so please read it that way and read this response this way too if I might ask

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Except you're leaving out one key factor in all if this, which is that these people - the ones I disagree with, whom I "attack," use "extreme adjectives" and "abusive language" toward, etc - aren't just random people whom I go around bullying for sport. Rather, these people, 95% of the time, are the same 10-20 posters who live to HATE Hollywood/liberals on this board. Not just people for whom left-leaning media is starting to "take a toll," but rather people who express a seething, mocking hatred for Hollywood, and often for half of the country as well, in the exact same ways you claim Hollywood does for the right.

Otherwise, I'm sorry, but I simply don't do the things you listed with the people here who aren't aggressively/incessantly political, and I'm very conscious of that. Will Spilner and I get into it over the Star Wars prequels or whatever? Sure. Will I passionately argue for a movie I may have either liked more (or less) than others? Absolutely. But stuff like that is mostly all in good fun. Rather, most of the time I go out of my way to acknowledge and breed positivity here, whether it's responding supportively to great discussion/theories, or hyping as much content as I possibly can (in genuine fashion). If you can't see the positively I try to bring in those regards, which far outweighs my vitriol, I don't know what to tell you.

The truth is, there is a distinct F16 bleed-over on this board who HATES me, HATES my colleagues, and HATES my profession, who uses thread after thread here to constantly remind me of their hatred. And if it's not hatred, it's predominantly endless complaining about "woke" when, more often than not the amount of complaining far outweighs whatever "woke" transgression has occurred. Further, it finally dawned on me that for as much as these people incessantly complain, and ruin thread after thread with their complaints… deep down they enjoy it. They enjoy the venting, the rage, and the superiority complex it gives them, which only fuels the fire and makes this place more and more miserable/depressing at times. Which, in return, on fuels me to respond.

I mean, the very fact that you're not even acknowledging that very real phenomenon on this board, and not also lecturing the people in this thread opposite me for holding to their views just as stubbornly as I'm holding to mine, kind of proves my point. Have they been quite as vocal as me in this thread? No. But they're being just as one-sided, and in the past, in other threads, have been just as mocking, just as "abusive," and "attack" me all the damn time.

All of that to say, I've been working in this industry for over 22 years. I've put in my 10,000 hours and so much more. I know what I'm talking about, and I'm sorry, but I don't have to be humble about that simply because you want me to be.

Yes, art is subjective. But the science of screenwriting, story structure, theme, etc isn't nearly as subjective as many would like to think. It's a highly technical endeavor, with all kinds of "rules" and nuance and once you learn to "see the Matrix" in that regard, after reading dozens of screenwriting books, thousands of screenplays, giving endless amounts of notes in professional development settings, and of course seeing hundreds more movies on top of all of that, you become an expert on the subject. To that end, this is my profession and I'm very good at it.

Also, I literally work with the people who make a number of the movies/shows we discuss on this board. I'm around them constantly, on Zooms with them, on emails with them, etc. In other words, I know how these people think, how they work, and often what they're trying to say/accomplish through their work. I'm not just some angry slapdick on the internet. For instance, last week, literally the day One Battle After Another hit theaters, I was on a Zoom with the person who runs DiCaprio's production company, trying to crack a new direction for a character in a pilot we're all making together. And for what it's worth, the show we're working on takes place in Texas, doesn't paint Texans/the right as backwards or wrong in any way, features a scene in a positive light in which a Christian prays, etc, and this is something that DiCaprio's name is on. So this idea that everyone out here - especially the guy starring in the movie this thread is discussing - hates you and your politics and your religion is, as always, an exaggeration. Does Hollywood lean left? Absolutely. But this idea that all Hollywood does is **** all over half the country simply isn't true.

This is all to say that it can be maddening at times when these ultra-conservative, politically-obsessed types, thousands of miles away, insist, in the most bad faith ways possible, that they know better or that they know what the intent of any given filmmaker is and I don't. Can you not see how that's frustrating? And how, when their attacks on me are laced with just as much vitriol and mocking, I'm the only one who gets called out, for simply responding to them?

As to everything else you said, I'm sorry, but I just don't have the energy to go over all of that stuff again for the thousandth time. You used multiple sweeping generalizations, put words in my mouth, ignored much of what I've said in this thread (again, I just can't with the lack of nuance anymore), and are clearly on the right yourself, in a way that's of course going to bias you to many of the arguments I make and the ways in which I conduct myself toward the more aggressive right-wingers on this board.

As always, you can choose with your wallet not to endorse Hollywood's messaging - or - in this day and age, you can easily go make the content yourself that you so desire. YouTube has FAR more reach than Hollywood does now anyway. Hollywood isn't the gatekeeper it once was, nor does it hold the level of influence you're claiming. Twenty years ago? Sure. But not anymore.

All of that said, if it's any consolation, the things I, personally, am trying to make don't lean liberal in the ways you describe and, as I said above, I'm making an effort to paint the right/Texans in a positive light (we're working on multiple Texas-set stories). I'm trying to do things different in that regard, but whether I succeed is another matter. That said… the right isn't always right, and Christians aren't always good. So when I feel like either need to be called out, whether in a movie we discuss on this board, in my work, or on this board, I'm not going to refrain from doing so.

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